Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Roaster · 16-07-2009 08:08AM

Sums him up really.

Reports in most of the morning newspapers claim Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor is stalling on a move to Manchester City. He has been granted a work permit, but is apparently waiting to see if any other clubs show an interest. Will it be a long wait?

Mossy Monk · 16-07-2009 08:23AM

He is an absolute **** if he is stalling the transfer.

WillieCocker · 16-07-2009 08:26AM

yahoo_moe wrote: »

You're talking about a different year We were talking about Ade last year - Ramsay was nowhere near Arsenal in '07.
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:pac:
No, you said Ade never had the Henry thing going on (standing around remonstrating), when he quite clearly did.

Diddy Kong · 16-07-2009 08:26AM

Gossip this morning says that we have had a bid rejected for Chamakh. Bordeaux are holding out for 7mil and Silvestre.

Don't actually think that is a bad deal!!

WillieCocker · 16-07-2009 08:30AM

Diddy Kong wrote: »

Gossip this morning says that we have had a bid rejected for Chamakh. Bordeaux are holding out for 7mil and Silvestre.

Don't actually think that is a bad deal!!

It's deal of the century , why does Wenger want to 6 CB's this season ?.

Leprechaun77 · 16-07-2009 08:54AM

I thought that this Chamakh guy had a release clause of €7m??? I have read this a few times this week. How can a bid be rejected if this amount is offered?

Mitch Connor · 16-07-2009 08:58AM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

He is an absolute **** if he is stalling the transfer.

In fairness, I would hardly blame the guy for waiting to see if Milan or Barcelona (or United, with Ferguson having praised him previously) would like to sign him, rather than heading to City.

Evil_Clown · 16-07-2009 09:00AM

Leprechaun77 wrote: »

I thought that this Chamakh guy had a release clause of €7m??? I have read this a few times this week. How can a bid be rejected if this amount is offered?

From what I have seen previously if a club matches the clause price they are at least allowed to speak to the player. So I would guess that the price has not been matched yet.

Max Power1 · 16-07-2009 09:07AM

Diddy Kong wrote: »

Gossip this morning says that we have had a bid rejected for Chamakh. Bordeaux are holding out for 7mil and Silvestre.

Don't actually think that is a bad deal!!

Please GOD offer them what they want... its worth the extra cash if they take silvestre off us!!!

FearDark · 16-07-2009 10:18AM

Delighted to see Ade go, he was never 100% Arsenal. Overrated too, for the amount of chances Arsenal create any half decent striker could score 16 in a season for us.

Bye bye Ade.

Mossy Monk · 16-07-2009 10:28AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

In fairness, I would hardly blame the guy for waiting to see if Milan or Barcelona (or United, with Ferguson having praised him previously) would like to sign him, rather than heading to City.

After doing a medical and agreeing terms then yes I would blame him. I just want him gone so Wenger can use the money to buy the required players needed.

Leprechaun77 · 16-07-2009 11:11AM

I do think Ade is a good player but his attitude was abysmal. His class is undoubted in my book but his character is his failing.The minute he started to score a few goals and getting a bit of form, he was angling for a move away. If recent reports are to be believed in relation to stalling on the City deal, then that just sums the man up. If I were City and he did infact act like this, I'd tell him where to go. His greed and arrogance are astounding. The sooner the better he is gone. He has never had any loyalty towards the club who brought him from being an obscure Ligue 1 player. Ok, granted other players have left for money reasons, but most seemed to give a sh*t when they were on the pitch.

Paleface · 16-07-2009 11:47AM

The Adebayor situation seems to be a recurring theme to me with Arsenal players. Wenger signs a player with obvious potential but a bit raw from obscurity and develops them into a player of world class standard or the certainly the potential to be one.

The media in England hype the player up as part of the whole "best league in world" mantra and all of a sudden agents and other clubs are in there trying to turn the players head with promises of more money and success. this inflates the players ego and next thing he's gone. Past examples include Anelka, Hleb & Cole. Granted Cole was home grown but apart from that the conclusion was the same.

Its worrying to me that Arsenal as a club can't seem to keep these players happy. I can see down the road something similar happening with Bentdner and Vela. Are Arsenal to some extent becoming a feeder club paying off their debt with the profits made from these signings?

Liverpool, Chelsea and United do not sell players in this manner in my opinion.

Does anybody else see what I'm getting at here???

WillieCocker · 16-07-2009 12:04PM

Paleface wrote: »

The Adebayor situation seems to be a recurring theme to me with Arsenal players. Wenger signs a player with obvious potential but a bit raw from obscurity and develops them into a player of world class standard or the certainly the potential to be one.

The media in England hype the player up as part of the whole "best league in world" mantra and all of a sudden agents and other clubs are in there trying to turn the players head with promises of more money and success. this inflates the players ego and next thing he's gone. Past examples include Anelka, Hleb & Cole. Granted Cole was home grown but apart from that the conclusion was the same.

Its worrying to me that Arsenal as a club can't seem to keep these players happy. I can see down the road something similar happening with Bentdner and Vela. Are Arsenal to some extent becoming a feeder club paying off their debt with the profits made from these signings?

Liverpool, Chelsea and United do not sell players in this manner in my opinion.

Does anybody else see what I'm getting at here???

Yes, i see your point.
As Arsenal fans it's very frustrating to see Wenger favour some players over others.
I think Vela should be in our first team squad, as if he's good now he will be World Class after 2 seasons of first team action.
Sometimes i wish Wenger was on our board, rather than managing our club.

Galvasean · 16-07-2009 12:12PM

It is an awful waste to see Eboué on the left wing while Vela sits on the bench.
Rumour going around today says the Man City deal has fallen through and Ade is off to United. As long as they pay the same amount of money I don't mind either way.

WillieCocker · 16-07-2009 12:13PM

Galvasean wrote: »

It is an awful waste to see Eboué on the left wing while Vela sits on the bench.
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Waste????

It should be a criminal offence.....with a minimum 3 month.:mad:

Royale with Cheese · 16-07-2009 12:24PM

Galvasean wrote: »

It is an awful waste to see Eboué on the left wing while Vela sits on the bench.
Rumour going around today says the Man City deal has fallen through and Ade is off to United. As long as they pay the same amount of money I don't mind either way.

I dunno. Selling him to Man City is one thing, United is another. Even though Arsenal are more likely to be competing with City for 4th place next season than United for 1st place.

It's just them selling Arsenal Silvestre last summer and Arsenal selling one of their best players in Adebayor to United this summer. Sends a huge negative message. Think back to 2003/2004, could you imagine Arsenal selling Robert Pires to United back then? Yes Bobby was 100 times the player that Adebayor is, but it's the same kind of idea.

Then again, he could sign for United for £25m and be a huge failure. We could all have a laugh at that.

UnitedIrishman · 16-07-2009 12:26PM

As a United fan I hope we don't sign him. Just don't particularly like the guy and his constant offside ways.

WillieCocker · 16-07-2009 12:32PM

Fergie won't sign a player that's offside 85% of the time and can bitch and moan more than the WAG's.

DenMan · 16-07-2009 12:57PM

One for the future. Highly sought after too.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5436385,00.html

Galvasean · 16-07-2009 01:01PM

DenMan wrote: »

One for the future. Highly sought after too.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5436385,00.html

I think Wenger seriously needs to stop looking up the Football Manager data editor and signing players with -9 potential AP.

CR 7 · 16-07-2009 01:01PM

I just hope that the whole city thing wasn't just him calling united's bluff. Maybe he was pushing for higher wages from united or something. It all sounds a bit too suspicious anyway. I really really hope he goes to city though.

16-07-2009 01:03PM

DenMan wrote: »

One for the future. Highly sought after too.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5436385,00.html

Can you sign a 15 year old from another country? I thought they had to be 16 min.

Mac Masters · 16-07-2009 01:12PM

Well apparently he's currently on trial with us and we seem to be heading the race to get him ahead of Madrid and Milan and the guy is being tipped as the new Messi!

Mr Alan · 16-07-2009 01:36PM

Mac Masters wrote: »

the guy is being tipped as the new Messi!

aren't they all!

Neil3030 · 16-07-2009 04:21PM

jasonorr wrote: »

No thanks...might be worth a gamble at £5m though!

Is that all you've left in your transfer budget this season?? :P

Redzer7 · 16-07-2009 04:59PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

Is that all you've left in your transfer budget this season?? :P

Sorry who came 4th last season? :P (Had to say it

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L'prof · 16-07-2009 07:48PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

Is that all you've left in your transfer budget this season?? :P

Well...

...probably is until Ade leaves!

I don't see the point in signing Agbonlahor as he's a poor finisher and we're about to get rid of one of those in Ade. I don't think he would be any better than our backup strikers either so, what's the point???

Galvasean · 16-07-2009 08:22PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

aren't they all!

It was always 'the next Zidane'. This is actually the first 'next Messi' I've heard of.

Huntelaar turned down Stuttgart. says he wants to play in the Premier League.
Wenger, checquebook out, NOW!

jesus_thats_gre · 16-07-2009 08:39PM

Galvasean wrote: »

It was always 'the next Zidane'. This is actually the first 'next Messi' I've heard of.

Huntelaar turned down Stuttgart. says he wants to play in the Premier League.
Wenger, checquebook out, NOW!

We got one in our reserves

was referred to as Real's Messi by the youth staff at Real Madrid before we robbed him

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/alfredobrunablanco/

http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Gerardo_bruna

His precocious talent has already earned him the nickname the "Messi of Madrid" by the football press..

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