Post Man shot with air rifle in Finglas

oldyouth · 14-07-2009 07:59PM

Terrible that any person gets attacked while going about their job

On a side issue. Did I hear right on the 6.01 news that locals called to the sorting office and collected post to distribute in the neighbourhood. There were pictures of a few old dears with bundles of post going in to various driveways. Is that legal????

mle1324 · 14-07-2009 08:50PM

ScumLord wrote: »

How much of that fortune is going to China though.

That i wouldnt know but what i do know is that a lot of airsoft stuff comes from outside China like Japan,Taiwan and USA.

Degsy · 14-07-2009 08:51PM

Spetzcong wrote: »

I also find it comical that anyone with a post count in excess of 7,000 on boards.ie would have the cheek to accuse someone else of being a nerd. Perhaps you should go outside more, or is going outside a bit too "nerdy" for you?

I assure you i get out plenty..and when i do its not running round fields with a bunch of overweight men with toy guns.

José Alaninho · 14-07-2009 09:01PM

Degsy wrote: »

I assure you i get out plenty..and when i do its not running round fields with a bunch of overweight men with toy guns.

Can;t say i've seen many overweight people at the matches I've attended.... in fact, I'd warrant that 90% are fit as fúck :cool:

tman · 14-07-2009 09:03PM

Shame it wasn't the dickhead postie who "delivered" my Glastonbury ticket without getting anybody to sign for it:mad:

Terry · 14-07-2009 09:11PM

Degsy wrote: »

I assure you i get out plenty..and when i do its not running round fields with a bunch of overweight men with toy guns.

Stop trolling.

Heckler · 14-07-2009 09:13PM

Degsy wrote: »

I assure you i get out plenty..and when i do its not running round fields with a bunch of overweight men with toy guns.[/QUOTE

I own a few airsoft "toys" and a few real guns. Started with airsoft and moved on. I find airsoft useful for dry-firing practice at home. Tell us what you do when you "get out plenty" and I can guarantee you that someone will rip you one. Anyones hobby can be pulled the piss outta. So c'mon what do you do ? I bet you go drinking and score chicks don't ya ? Or maybe you play golf......

Degsy · 14-07-2009 09:43PM

[quote=Heckler;61142393So c'mon what do you do ? I bet you go drinking and score chicks don't ya ? Or maybe you play golf......[/quote]

The former has been known the latter is a game i despise.

stovelid · 14-07-2009 09:48PM

Four pages in and nobody has said he's lucky to have a job. Tut-tut.

Heckler · 14-07-2009 10:00PM

Degsy wrote: »

The former has been known the latter is a game i despise.

So what else do you do besides drinking and scoring ? Because if thats all you do thats a bit sad. Like I said very easy to pull the piss out of someones hobbies. Are stamp collectors failed postmen ? are model plane enthusiasts failed pilots ? Are model train fans failed train drivers ? You're putting down airsofters so have the stones to tell us what you like to do in your spare time.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 12:04AM

Poor Degsy folds under questioning. Degsy fail awww.

amaughan · 15-07-2009 12:31AM

Degsy wrote: »

Hmm,how can i put this..i dont like airsofters?
Talking about this gun and that gun as if its the real thing when its a toy.

I suppose i think its a bit sad really,not so much the skirmishing itself but the nerdy-obsessive way some of them spend a fortune on "upgrading" thier toy guns and consider themselves to be experts on firearms despite never having held one.
Just my two cents worth.

if a golfer spends €100's for some new clubs is that sad or nerdy.same with target shooters or any sport for that matter.i think you need to grow up and try it out at a site before making un educated arguments you just start to look the fool.i for one pitty you for being so closed minded;)

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 12:39AM

It is not a sport.

CrazyRabbit · 15-07-2009 12:59AM

Sir Molle wrote: »

People who say there's a difference between airsoft guns and airguns are simply splitting hairs. Airsoft weapons should be banned because they're dangerous in the wrong hands.

Nobody in this country needs to have a weapon readily available to them like that.

Ban kitchen knives! Ban forks! Ban baseball bats! Ban crowbars! Ban chainsaws! Ban cars! Ban people from having fists and feet!

All of these things WILL cause a hell of a lot more damage than a 0.2g 6mm plastic Airsoft bb if used to assault someone.

Your ignorance is astounding. You cannot ban items simply because some people may choose to use them in a dangerous or threatening manner. If we did that, we'd be in a very sorry state.

Place the blame where it lies....on the people themselves, and not the tools they use.

For the record, I've been hit about 10,000 times by airsoft bb's in the last few years. There's not so much as a mark on me from these hits. And yes, I do need to improve my ability to duck

weeder · 15-07-2009 01:06AM

lads, lets ban drink, it makes some people violent therfore is dangerous and should be banned

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 01:19AM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Ban kitchen knives! Ban forks! Ban baseball bats! Ban crowbars! Ban chainsaws! Ban cars! Ban people from having fists and feet!

All of these things WILL cause a hell of a lot more damage than a 0.2g 6mm plastic Airsoft bb if used to assault someone.

Your ignorance is astounding. You cannot ban items simply because some people may choose to use them in a dangerous or threatening manner. If we did that, we'd be in a very sorry state.

Place the blame where it lies....on the people themselves, and not the tools they use.

For the record, I've been hit about 10,000 times by airsoft bb's in the last few years. There's not so much as a mark on me from these hits. And yes, I do need to improve my ability to duck

The difference is that the percentage of people who abuse the things you've said is a lot lower than those who abuse airsoft weapons, and also kitchen knives, forks, crowbars, chainsaws and cars aren't designed or modeled on things designed to kill people. There is also a need for the things you mentioned, where as there is literally no need at all for airsoft weapons.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 01:23AM

Sir Molle wrote: »

It is not a sport.

Yes it is whether you like it or not. Its played professionally as well as for fun the world over.

Every one of your anti-airsoft posts has held no arguement simply Dougal-like "its bad, I don't like like it. Ban it." Give me 5 well founded points as to why airsoft should be banned and I will give you ten as to why it should'nt. Thats if you're not the troll as I think you are.

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 01:32AM

1. Airsoft weapons are incredibly easy to obtain, therefore it is extremely easy for them to get in to the hands of people who aren't interested in using these weapons responsibly.

2. They are realistic replicas of real guns and can be used as weapons in crimes.

3. They are realistic replicas of real guns and can easily scare people if seen in public.

4. They are dangerous.

5. The bullets are harmful to the environment.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 01:38AM

As to your statement above that airsoft toys are used more than knives, crowbars and screwdrivers in crime I can guarantee you that noone has been killed or injured in the course of a crime with an airsoft device. Thats opposite figures to the amount of people killed, maimed stabbed and injured by common household items like kitchen knives, beer bottles, hurleys screwdrivers etc. Get your facts and figures right before you come on here spouting false stats that can harm a perfectly legal and to many enjoyable pastime. Because of the mods I can't say what I think of you but you know don't ya.........

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 01:40AM

Knives have a practical application, airsoft weapons do not. If you can't understand why that difference matters then there is no point in discussing this further with you.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 01:47AM

Sir Molle wrote: »

1. Airsoft weapons are incredibly easy to obtain, therefore it is extremely easy for them to get in to the hands of people who aren't interested in using these weapons responsibly.

2. They are realistic replicas of real guns and can be used as weapons in crimes.

3. They are realistic replicas of real guns and can easily scare people if seen in public.

4. They are dangerous.

5. The bullets are harmful to the environment.

1. Kitchen knives are incredibly easy to obtain therefore it is extremely easy for them to get in to the hands of people who aren't interested in using these weapons (not weapons, classified as toys) responsibily.

2. Any sharp( ie knife) or blunt object (baseball bat, hurley) can be used as a weapon in a crime AND HAS BEEN A HUNDREDFOLD MORE THAN ANY AIRSOFT DEVICE.

3. Consequences for showing in public are as real as showing a real weapon and thats as it should be. As would walking round waving a butcher knife about.

4. As are knives, baseball bats. cars , knitting needles etc

5. Biodegradable bb's are available and I don't think the amount used is going to melt the ****ing polar icecaps

6. Get a life

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 01:51AM

If knives didn't have a practical application the value of which outweighed the danger they pose, then we should probably ban knives too. However that isn't the case, so there goes your argument.

What practical application do airsoft weapons have that outweighs the danger they pose to society? Enlighten me please.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 01:51AM

Sir Molle wrote: »

Knives have a practical application, airsoft weapons do not. If you can't understand why that difference matters then there is no point in discussing this further with you.

They are not weapons. They are classified by law as toys that fire a harmless projectile at less than 1 joule of energy. Like a nerf gun. Or a spud gun. Or a water gun. DO YOU UNDERSTAND.

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 01:53AM

Heckler wrote: »

They are not weapons. They are classified by law as toys that fire a harmless projectile at less than 1 joule of energy. Like a nerf gun. Or a spud gun. Or a water gun. DO YOU UNDERSTAND.

If your little toys are used in a robbery it is most certainly a weapon. If it is fired at someone beyond the context of pretending to be soldiers for your "sport", then it is a weapon.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 01:55AM

Why does everything have to have a practical application ? I'm personally offended by footballers being paid 200,000 a week to kick an inflated bladder of leather about. Whats the practical application of a football ? I can guarantee you that 10 times more many kids were injured on footie fields this year than ever were with airsoft devices. Am I calling for a ban on footballs ? NOOOOO. Get a grip for Gods sake.

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 01:56AM

Heckler wrote: »

Why does everything have to have a practical application ? I'm personally offended by footballers being paid 200,000 a week to kick an inflated bladder of leather about. Whats the practical application of a football ? I can guarantee you that 10 times more many kids were injured on footie fields this year than ever were with airsoft devices. Am I calling for a ban on footballs ? NOOOOO. Get a grip for Gods sake.

Try rob a bank with a football.

Also try reading my posts. Not everything needs to have a practical application if it is harmless. If something is dangerous how ever, unless the value of the practical use of it outweighs the danger value, then there's no real reason to have unnecessary risk.

jill_valentine · 15-07-2009 02:00AM

Look, I play Airsoft and The_Economist fancies me.

Should be all you need to know, one way or the other.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 02:00AM

Sir Molle wrote: »

If your little toys are used in a robbery it is most certainly a weapon. If it is fired at someone beyond the context of pretending to be soldiers for your "sport", then it is a weapon.

Check the statistics. The vast majority of weapons used in robberies are no.1 a blunt object i.e. a stick, baseball bat, hurley, ballpeen hammer no.2 a knife, screwdriver or other stabbing implement and no.3 a sawn-off shotgun. In most cases the sawnoff shotgun is a real weapon.

There are no airsoft sawnoff shotguns.

Sir Molle · 15-07-2009 02:01AM

Heckler wrote: »

Check the statistics. The vast majority of weapons used in robberies are no.1 a blunt object i.e. a stick, baseball bat, hurley, ballpeen hammer no.2 a knife, screwdriver or other stabbing implement and no.3 a sawn-off shotgun. In most cases the sawnoff shotgun is a real weapon.

There are no airsoft sawnoff shotguns.

Fine then, footballs don't scare the living shit out of everyone when you carry one around in public.

Also, what is to stop someone using an airsoft weapon in a robbery or to threaten someone? What about all of the unreported cases where airsoft weapons have been used maliciously.

Heckler · 15-07-2009 02:03AM

Sir Molle wrote: »

Try rob a bank with a football.

Also try reading my posts. Not everything needs to have a practical application if it is harmless. If something is dangerous how ever, unless the value of the practical use of it outweighs the danger value, then there's no real reason to have unnecessary risk.

And who decides the ratio of risk to value ? You ? Then we would all be back in the stone age renouncing the wheel because someone might get knocked down.

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