Roundabouts

Abi · 15-06-2009 11:06PM

phasers wrote: »

I hate roundabouts, I'm learning to drive now and they terrify me! There's one huge one near my house that is absolute chaos, you have to look in about 8 places at once to make sure you're not going to die...

Don't feel silly for asking as many questions as it takes for you to register which lanes you should be in, and at what point you indicate for each direction. You are paying for the lessons, so make the instructor earn his / her fee. Accidents and near-misses occur at roundabouts all of the time. If you don't learn properly when you begin driving, there will always be that uncertainty as you approach a roundabout, and you are likely to give other drivers also using the roundabout a fright.

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gwhiz · 15-06-2009 11:16PM

markok84 wrote: »

what about those roundabouts that have pedestrian crossings within 2 feet of them, are they trying to kill people?

I totally agree.... there is a rounabout just before you drive onto the new Ongar Road in Blanchardstown and just as you come off the roundabout there is a set of pedestrian lights which change really quick. I mean WTF were they thinking of. Could they not have put the lights a bit further up the road. In fact there is four sets of pedestrian lights just as you exit off this roundabout so it's the same scenario whatever exit you take.. There is a serious accident waiting to happen here. :mad:

Ruu_Old · 15-06-2009 11:35PM

They are easier than off ramps or exits in the US of EH. Some g-force experienced on some of those.

Horsefumbler · 16-06-2009 12:44AM

I'd just like to say that if your aproaching a 2 lane round about and you intend to go straight on you should be in the outside lane, not the inside one.Inside lane is for turning right or any other exit after '12 o clock' on the round about.

So many people don'd know this

Carroller16 · 16-06-2009 01:02AM

Denmark- roundabout heaven

upmeath · 16-06-2009 01:37AM

Maddison wrote: »

The mini roundabouts are the worst.....like does anyone actually go around them??They are like roundy speedbumps.

They're slowly becoming a thing of the past, you don't see many being installed anymore and where there were mini-roundabouts in the past the junctions are being expanded and proper grass-verge roundabouts installed. One that still gets my nut is the one at the north end of Auburn Avenue in Castleknock, drives me feckin balloobas. Just when you think you're past the chaos of the M50 roundabout and the Auburn Avenue roundabout you find yourself in a rat race with some twit who should have gone left for St. Brigids trying to bolt down AA ahead of you. Grrr :mad:

16-06-2009 09:27AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Ever been to Swinden ?

http://www.strum.co.uk/pix/mr.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/images/2007/10/22/msn_magic_roundabout_470x350.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Swindon_Magic_Roundabout_eng.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Magic_Roundabout_Schild_db.jpg/800px-Magic_Roundabout_Schild_db.jpg

I used to live in Milton Keynes, the city of roundabouts, about 100 at least!

It was common for drivers th go round these at speeds of 50mph and more...
All secondhand cars from there had unique features from turning right at high speed, the side of the drivers seat was threafbare and the nearside front wheel bearings were shot!

16-06-2009 09:30AM

Horsefumbler wrote: »

I'd just like to say that if your aproaching a 2 lane round about and you intend to go straight on you should be in the outside lane, not the inside one.Inside lane is for turning right or any other exit after '12 o clock' on the round about.

So many people don'd know this

WRONG! left lane for turning left or straight on , right lane for right unless line markings or signs indicate otherwise.

If the roundabout in on a dual carriageway or ther is a merge after the roundabout then either lane can be used for straight on.

16-06-2009 09:33AM

phasers wrote: »

I hate roundabouts, I'm learning to drive now and they terrify me! There's one huge one near my house that is absolute chaos, you have to look in about 8 places at once to make sure you're not going to die...

The one in walkingstown is a bit hairy tbh, with four lanes going around it, many are confused as to which one to use.

Mr Digger · 16-06-2009 09:34AM

Abigayle wrote: »

It's not the number of roundabouts that piss me off, it's the dumb cnuts that don't know how to use them.

hear hear...

AnonoBoy · 16-06-2009 10:25AM

I'm more a swings man myself.

120_Minutes · 16-06-2009 10:26AM

Deleted User wrote: »

WRONG! left lane for turning left or straight on , right lane for right unless line markings or signs indicate otherwise.

If the roundabout in on a dual carriageway or ther is a merge after the roundabout then either lane can be used for straight on.

eh, thats what she meant...12 o'clock is straight on. case in point: athlone n6 roundabout. i love coming to it from the town side in the left lane intending towards moate while a tailback forms of people looking to go to moate/kilmartins in the inside lane....i'd say they're cutting me in two with looks as i sail past them. but hey if you're too lazy to look in the rules of the road, i've no sympathy for you.

Abi · 16-06-2009 10:28AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I'm more a swings man myself.

Because thats not ghey

:pac:

Cormac2791 · 16-06-2009 10:28AM

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

So I'm learning to drive at the moment and I've come to notice... why are there so many roundabouts in this country!? In places it seems there are roundabouts every 50 yards, mostly ones built in the last 10 years. It's ridiculous!

wait untill you go to france..

16-06-2009 10:36AM

120_Minutes wrote: »

eh, thats what she meant...12 o'clock is straight on. case in point: athlone n6 roundabout. i love coming to it from the town side in the left lane intending towards moate while a tailback forms of people looking to go to moate/kilmartins in the inside lane....i'd say they're cutting me in two with looks as i sail past them. but hey if you're too lazy to look in the rules of the road, i've no sympathy for you.

Errm...the inside (nearest the side) lane is the left lane the outside (away from the side) lane is the right lane.

120_Minutes · 16-06-2009 10:39AM

ehh myself and everyone i know woould consider the left lane to be the outside one.....you should should always work your way out from the centre line/median

left = outside
right= inside

in terms of a dual carrageway/motorway

AnonoBoy · 16-06-2009 10:40AM

Abigayle wrote: »

Because thats not ghey

What's so gay about two men having fun together with some chains and a piece of wood?

phasers · 16-06-2009 10:41AM

I think officially Dolan is right, the "inside" lane is the left one because it's the one nearest the kerb or something.

Although I've always thought of it as the other way round tbh.

challengemaster · 16-06-2009 10:43AM

Ah, you can just make things more fun...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tSNQZOwBeQ

Ruu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6kSLAoevlw

Twin-go · 16-06-2009 10:45AM

Deleted User wrote: »

If the roundabout in on a dual carriageway or ther is a merge after the roundabout then either lane can be used for straight on.

WRONG: Left lane must be used for Exits 1 and 2 off a roundabout. Right lane for ALL other exits. Only exceptions are, When road makings indicate which lane should/can be used or you are directed to use a different lane by the Gardai. Read the rules of the road guys.

People This "12 o'clock" thing is not in the rules of the road.

120_Minutes · 16-06-2009 10:48AM

phasers wrote: »

I think officially Dolan is right, the "inside" lane is the left one because it's the one nearest the kerb or something.

Although I've always thought of it as the other way round tbh.

me too, but regardless of what they're called, people still dont know how to use them. i usually call them left/right anyway

left lane = turning left/straight on
right lane = any exit after 12 o'clock

and dont even get me started on indicating

Twin-go · 16-06-2009 10:55AM

120_Minutes wrote: »

ehh myself and everyone i know woould consider the left lane to be the outside one.....you should should always work your way out from the centre line/median

left = outside
right= inside

in terms of a dual carrageway/motorway

WTF

Are you Trolling?

Do you overtake on the inside of somebody or the outside?

Or do you know your left from your right?

Jaysoose · 16-06-2009 11:04AM

Is it any wonder taking a roundabout in this country is a nightmare if the experts in this thread cant agree right from left.........

Face....say hello to palm.

120_Minutes · 16-06-2009 11:04AM

no, i'm not trolling and if you look at my previous post you can see i know my left from my right. its just that a lot of people would have gotten used to calling the right/passing lane the outside one as you tend to not overtake on the "inside" (which was an old term for overtaking on the hard shoulder) which led to confusion. as you may have read, i might be calling them the wrong names, but i use the lanes correctly, which is more important

16-06-2009 11:11AM

cormacharraghy wrote: »

wait untill you go to france..

Just be thankful you didn't drive there 20 years ago, they reversed the rules for joining a roundabout from priority joining to priority going around.

In other words if you're already on the roundabout, you must yield to those joining.

120_Minutes · 16-06-2009 11:12AM

Jaysoose wrote: »

Is it any wonder taking a roundabout in this country is a nightmare if the experts in this thread cant agree right from left.........

Face....say hello to palm.

we're agreeing on right and left, it was inside and outside in dispute! its all sorted now.

Twin-go · 16-06-2009 11:14AM

120_Minutes wrote: »

no, i'm not trolling and if you look at my previous post you can see i know my left from my right. its just that a lot of people would have gotten used to calling the right/passing lane the outside one as you tend to not overtake on the "inside" (which was an old term for overtaking on the hard shoulder) which led to confusion. as you may have read, i might be calling them the wrong names, but i use the lanes correctly, which is more important

Fare enough!

vibe666 · 16-06-2009 11:26AM

120_Minutes wrote: »

ehh myself and everyone i know woould consider the left lane to be the outside one.....you should should always work your way out from the centre line/median

left = outside
right= inside

in terms of a dual carrageway/motorway

maybe in the rest of europe where they drive on the other side of the road, but not here.

in countries where you drive on the left hand side of the road, the leftmost lane is the inside lane and the rightmost is the outside lane.

Twin-go wrote: »

WRONG: Left lane must be used for Exits 1 and 2 off a roundabout. Right lane for ALL other exits. Only exceptions are, When road makings indicate which lane should/can be used or you are directed to use a different lane by the Gardai. Read the rules of the road guys.

sorry, but that is incorrect. the number of exits is on a roundabout is totally irrelevant. the Irish RoTR clearly states that when taking exits left or straight on you take the left lane and the right lane for all other exits. it makes no mention of the number of exits. imho a lot of people just see the illustration of a perfect 4 exit roundabout on the roundabouts section of the RoTR and ignore the text.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/junctions-roundabouts/roundabouts.html

Twin-go wrote: »

People This "12 o'clock" thing is not in the rules of the road.

yes it is, it's just not called that. this has been discussed to death numerous times in the motoring forum.

the 12 o'clock rule has been the STANDARD approach for many many years all over the world and is the accepted standard for negotiating roundabouts.

Twin-go · 16-06-2009 11:46AM

vibe666 wrote: »

sorry, but that is incorrect. the number of exits is on a roundabout is totally irrelevant. the Irish RoTR clearly states that when taking exits left or straight on you take the left lane and the right lane for all other exits. it makes no mention of the number of exits. imho a lot of people just see the illustration of a perfect 4 exit roundabout on the roundabouts section of the RoTR and ignore the text.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/junctions-roundabouts/roundabouts.html

yes it is, it's just not called that. this has been discussed to death numerous times in the motoring forum.

the 12 o'clock rule has been the STANDARD approach for many many years all over the world and is the accepted standard for negotiating roundabouts.

Any Roundabout I have come accross with exits 1 and 2 before the 12 o'clock position will have road markings showing to use right lane for exits 3+. Example is the Coonagh Roundabout in Limerick.

Mossy Monk · 16-06-2009 12:06PM

The roundabout around the Arc de Triumph in Paris is fecking lethal. Great fun to watch from above though.

http://www.zpinaddict.com/parisimg/archstar.jpg

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