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'Shocking' Granny Video

  • 12-06-2009 10:46AM
    #1
    az2wp0sye65487
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭


    Source
    A 72-year-old woman in Texas has threatened to sue police after an officer "tasered" her with an electronic stun gun.

    Deputy constable Chris Bieze stopped Kathryn Winkfein on a Highway, where they had a confrontation over a speeding ticket.

    The policeman's superior, Sergeant Major Gary Griffin, said Mrs Winkfein "made a very simple interaction with the police a very difficult task", but Mrs Winkfein denies being argumentative.


    Not sure whether to laugh or be angered by this! If it was a younger man/woman resisting arrest they'd likely get the same treatment. So at least the officer wasn't being discriminatory based on age!


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  • #2
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,283 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    he's a big pussy, shocking behavior..


  • #3
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    She should be happy that the shock should have charged her pacemaker for another 10 years.


  • #4
    Genghiz Cohen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    Stupid bitch.


  • #5
    Raze_them_all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Just cos your old doesn mean you can be a ****.


  • #6
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    She's lucky the camera was there, otherwise I heard he was planning to throw her into traffic.


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  • #7
    dade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    some of the news reports say the cop felt threatened. she's up to his bloody belly button what threat did she pose? never mind that he started screaming at her


  • #8
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Some old ladies are horrible though


  • #9
    Karl Hungus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    The auld cow deserved it.


  • #10
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    woah woah woah, her surname is Winkfein?


  • #11
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    <puts kleenex and ky away>

    Yes, shocking indeed......a,heh....hum....


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  • #12
    Turd Ferguson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    Electronic stun gun? So she was shocked with semi conductors?


  • #13
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    The most shocking part is that the Beeb have Vodafone Ads at the beginning of their online videos. I thought the beeb weren't allowed ads.


  • #14
    ericl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭ericl


    He should've just punched her in the face.


  • #15
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Quazzie wrote: »
    The most shocking part is that the Beeb have Vodafone Ads at the beginning of their online videos. I thought the beeb weren't allowed ads.

    They are for us furriners who don't pay the license fee. Loads of ads on aunties websites depending on where they determine your IP address to be from now.


  • #16
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Fair play to that cop most people would crumble and give in dealing with an old codger like that for fear of the reprecussions. She wont treat the cops with such disrespect ever again.


  • #17
    Baldie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Baldie


    Ha Ha take that granny!!!


  • #18
    Wagon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    Stupid bitch. Deserves it.


  • #19
    PK2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Still a better headline than "79 y/o Woman Shoots Officer to death"


  • #20
    funk-you
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭funk-you


    She may have been a bitch but there are many ways to subdue her. He had a huge physical advantage over her. By tazing her he was effectively punishing her for not following his orders. Thats not his job.

    -Funk


  • #21
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    I'm a bit torn about it really but ultimately any usage of tazers is fine by me cos they make me laugh without fail.

    Having said that and in all seriousness, the usage of tazers simply as a form of person control should be monitored closely. It has the potential to be a slippery slope.


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  • #22
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    funk-you wrote: »
    She may have been a bitch but there are many ways to subdue her. He had a huge physical advantage over her. By tazing her he was effectively punishing her for not following his orders. Thats not his job.

    -Funk

    Many ways. And he chose one.


  • #23
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    dade wrote: »
    some of the news reports say the cop felt threatened. she's up to his bloody belly button what threat did she pose? never mind that he started screaming at her

    The threat of him losing his job for one.

    A policeman using a taser to calm down/control a woman was the right thing to do, IMO.

    If he is big and she is small, he will be able to hold her down or what not, but there is a decent chance she will get bruised while he is trying to restrain her. I bet he was imagining the headlines:

    "Policeman accused of police brutality against Old Age Pensioner" - The Times
    "Little old lady sustains heavy bruising during encounter with Cop" - The Daily Mail
    "Dangerous deputy does damage to diabetic" - The IRISH Sun

    If he as much as touched her, he could lose his job and be branded as a degenerate for harming a sweet little ol' lady.

    Btw, I am about 6'4. You will need to know that for this story:

    I was in town(Dublin, Ireland) one day, and unbeknownst to me there was a little old lady walking quite quickly behind me. I suddenly stopped to look in a shop window, and she walked into me, bounced off me, and ended up on her back side. I helped her up and she started giving out to me that I should look behind me before I make sudden movements. I barely felt her touch me, but it was enough to knock her on her ass.

    I shudder to think what would have happened if I walked intoher by mistake and knocked her over. Charged with assault is one possibility.

    Silly old trout.


  • #24
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    syklops wrote: »
    The threat of him losing his job for one.

    A policeman using a taser to calm down/control a woman was the right thing to do, IMO.

    If he is big and she is small, he will be able to hold her down or what not, but there is a decent chance she will get bruised while he is trying to restrain her. I bet he was imagining the headlines:

    "Policeman accused of police brutality against Old Age Pensioner" - The Times
    "Little old lady sustains heavy bruising during encounter with Cop" - The Daily Mail
    "Dangerous deputy does damage to diabetic" - The IRISH Sun

    If he as much as touched her, he could lose his job and be branded as a degenerate for harming a sweet little ol' lady.

    You think tazering was a nicer way to go? I think he's made more headlines this way than had he cuffed her. I think he was lucky to have his superiors back him up as he stated he was worried about traffic etc. He was in his hole. He looks like he was on a bit of a power trip and as has been said above punished the lady for non compliance.

    I think he's bloody lucky to have his job the prick even if she was being a silly moo moo.


  • #25
    funk-you
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Many ways. And he chose one.

    Which was completely out of proportion with the situation.

    -Funk


  • #26
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    You think tazering was a nicer way to go? I think he's made more headlines this way than had he cuffed her. I think he was lucky to have his superiors back him up as he stated he was worried about traffic etc. He was in his hole. He looks like he was on a bit of a power trip and as has been said above punished the lady for non compliance.

    I think he's bloody lucky to have his job the prick even if she was being a silly moo moo.

    Does it matter which way you think is nicer? If somebody is resisting arrest neither way is nice. "Had he cuffed her." how do you think you cuff somebody who won't listen to you? Bam face first into the pavement sit on the **** and then handcuff. At her age i can't see that going down too well either. Damned if he did and damned if he didn't. The superiors are backing him up because they know he was in a difficult position caused by that old bag and he handled it very professionally imo.


  • #27
    Turd Ferguson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    syklops wrote: »
    I shudder to think what would have happened if I walked intoher by mistake and knocked her over. Charged with assault is one possibility.

    Silly old trout.

    What does trout have to do with this?


  • #28
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    funk-you wrote: »
    Which was completely out of proportion with the situation.

    -Funk

    As opposed to which way? Subduing? Why don't you tell us what subduing involves when arresting somebody who won't comply.


  • #29
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    You think tazering was a nicer way to go? I think he's made more headlines this way than had he cuffed her. I think he was lucky to have his superiors back him up as he stated he was worried about traffic etc. He was in his hole. He looks like he was on a bit of a power trip and as has been said above punished the lady for non compliance.

    I think he's bloody lucky to have his job the prick even if she was being a silly moo moo.

    Surely if your on a power trip your more likely to use excessive (physical)force, rather than subduing the woman in one fell swoop with the taser.
    He had a huge physical advantage over her.
    -Funk

    Yes he did have a physical advantage, and in today's PC culture, that instantly means that you are in the wrong when things get physical.

    If he had pinned her against the car, and cuffed her, we would be talking about a video of a cop brutalising an old woman, and I bet, you(Funk) would have come on here and say "There was no need to be so harsh with her, after all he had a huge physical advantage over her, he could have done something else".

    He did the right thing, he did not get physical when trying to restrain her. He stunned her with the Taser instead.


  • #30
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    The didn't really show all of the video to be able to grasp what exactly was going on, but ...

    She was shouting and screaming and saying I'm an old woman.
    She was then saying something along the lines of "go on then taser me, I'm an old woman"
    He tased her when she continued to fail to do whatever it was he was asking her to do, probably something like STFU.


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  • #31
    Dennis the Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Hey look, it's the old woman from Drag Me To Hell!
    Tase me to hell.


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