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Ireland NOT on the verge of extending TV licence to cover Internet

  • 04-06-2009 10:08PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    Irelands draft Broadcasting Bill includes a provision to extend TV licence fee payments to cover Internet access - and its soon set to become law. Even devices capable of picking up YouTube appear to be included in the Broadcasting Act 2009s definition of television:

    WTF. If they're not supplying the broadband (which they're not as with almost all Sat TV) then they don't get to collect for it. This is so irritating and is the sort of stuff that got heaps of us to leave the country in the 1980ies.

    http://www.samknows.com/broadband/news/ireland-extending-tv-licence-to-cover-internet-593.html


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    How will they know I have a laptop?
    Im sure they cant ask my ISP do I recieve broadband?
    Proxies.

    Redicilous law, and besides Im already paying RTE almmost 200 euro a year more than theyre worth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    so what about the wireless broad band dongal things buy 3g and meteor..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,583 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They can suck my balls


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    UPDATE: A reader emailed us to say that she’d contacted the government department in question in order to clarify the situation and this is the response she got. “Devices capable of displaying traditional television broadcasting services” need a TV licence. Any device that plays either YouTube or the RTE player (similar to the Beeb’s iPlayer), or anything from RTE or TV3’s online archives is exempt — which must mean mobile devices and PCs.

    It is, however, the next para of the explanation, from the Broadcasting Policy Division at the Department of Communications, Energy & Natural Resources, that is confusing.

    However, given fast moving nature of technology in this area, the Bill specifically empowers the Minister to exempt categories of devices which may fall into the broad definition of a “television set” from the television licence requirement.

    Wouldn’t the “fast-moving nature of technology”, mean that the government would reserve the right to levy the licence fee on other devices if it thought that more people were moving away from their common-or-garden telly and towards the brave new world of Internet TV?

    The final two paras of the statement clear up the matter. “As previously indicated, the Minister intends on enactment of the Bill to move to exempt mobile devices and devices capable of accessing services that fall with the definition of a linear “television” service available through websites, from the television licensing requirement. Therefore, the new legislation will result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”

    So, that’s a no, then. Thanks, Mary!

    From the linked website.

    Nothing to see here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Tinfoil hats at the ready!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    They can suck my balls

    Will that be before or after they charge you the internet fee?:pac:

    RTE are a useless shower.Nothing but sh1te they show and they make us pay for it:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    This post has been deleted.

    Well they (govt) treble tax us on our cars, initial VRT, petrol tax, road tax and what do we get for that, utter **** roads. Why not tax us on oxygen RTE, it would be the same thing, you dont provide that either. If there was a way of blocking the RTE website and in particular their RTE Player then id do it, bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭Carlow52


    The con here is as follows:

    from the OP's link
    The final two paras of the statement clear up the matter. “As previously indicated, the Minister intends on enactment of the Bill to move to exempt mobile devices and devices capable of accessing services that fall with the definition of a linear “television” service available through websites, from the television licensing requirement. Therefore, the new legislation will result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”

    The reality is that he will NOT exempt the PC if there is not a TV in the house so the correct sentence is
    "Therefore, the new legislation will not result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”
    Cant wait for Lisbon 2


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I am fine with this, RTÉ provide quality television and deserve at least double the license fee they currently get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    phasers wrote: »
    I am fine with this, RTÉ provide quality television and deserve at least double the license fee they currently get.


    you forgot your sarcastic smiley.
    hint: it's this one :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    phasers wrote: »
    I am fine with this, RTÉ provide quality television and deserve at least double the license fee they currently get.
    +1 Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubbbbbberrrrrrdy are genius.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Carlow52 wrote: »
    The reality is that he will NOT exempt the PC if there is not a TV in the house

    How do you know this?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Carlow52 wrote: »
    The con here is as follows:

    from the OP's link
    The final two paras of the statement clear up the matter. “As previously indicated, the Minister intends on enactment of the Bill to move to exempt mobile devices and devices capable of accessing services that fall with the definition of a linear “television” service available through websites, from the television licensing requirement. Therefore, the new legislation will result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”

    The reality is that he will NOT exempt the PC if there is not a TV in the house so the correct sentence is
    "Therefore, the new legislation will not result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”
    Cant wait for Lisbon 2

    actually, what it says is:
    Therefore, the new legislation will result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”

    Why did you put in that 'not'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭HarryPalmer


    This post has been deleted.

    See the upcoming property tax for more information.

    If I remember correctly, the cheese-eating surrender monkeys are currently at the same thing but struggling to get it past the courts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    me hoop! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,292 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    See the upcoming property tax for more information.

    If I remember correctly, the cheese-eating surrender monkeys are currently at the same thing but struggling to get it past the courts.

    What've the Greeks got to do with this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    andrew wrote: »
    From the linked website.

    Nothing to see here!

    Rockin'.

    They can still suck My Name is URL's balls, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    They can suck my balls

    Me first!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭HarryPalmer


    Me first!

    Hence, "the lips". Nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    RTE are a shower of cundts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    They can suck my balls

    Don't tell RTE that. They could send Gerry Ryan round as their proxy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭DubMedic


    Pr*oxy government.

    They would tax the air we breathe if they had a means to.


    * Remove Bold Underlined Letters ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭ronkmonster


    Carlow52 wrote: »
    The reality is that he will NOT exempt the PC if there is not a TV in the house so the correct sentence is
    "Therefore, the new legislation will not result in the exclusion of a standard PC with a broadband connection from the television licensing requirement.”

    but if there was a tv and pc in the house, wouldn't you be already paying the tv licence anyway. pc being exempt is not relevant then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    A ridiculous idea if I ever heard one.

    If they really want to raise revenue via the internet by "taxing" access to RTE then a fair way be to charge a fee to access RTE.ie and associated sites. Not that it would stand a chance of being a commercial success, but least that way people would have a choice in the matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    I posted 6 months ago that this would happen and people thought I was crazy. I should get a prize or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Timistry


    god almightly they are some shower. Its just another way of stopping them from going bankrupt. What next, charging per mb for rte player:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭culchienator


    phasers wrote: »
    I am fine with this, RTÉ provide quality television and deserve at least double the license fee they currently get.
    haha, i couldn't stop laughing when i read that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,274 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    This is so irritating and is the sort of stuff that got heaps of us to leave the country in the 1980ies.

    No, that's the sort of slightly annoying stuff that makes heaps of us write angry letters to the editor. The 60% tax and unemployment rates of close to 20% were probably why people left the country in droves.


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