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Traffic Corps Program on RTE

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    DonJose wrote: »
    I found it unbelievable that he let the little fukker drive away considering he was 17 years old, a provisional license holder, driving unaccompanied and had been stopped a month earlier doing 138 in a 100 zone!!!

    He should have been arrested and had his car confiscated at the very least, like wtf letting off with a warning again??

    And lol at the gard who couldnt differentiate between smoke and steam.



    And why do we have mondeos, in the traffic corps that cant keep up with astras on the motorway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    DonJose wrote: »
    I found it unbelievable that he let the little fukker drive away considering he was 17 years old, a provisional license holder, driving unaccompanied and had been stopped a month earlier doing 138 in a 100 zone!!!

    As the bord failte ad goes... Up here it's different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    landyman wrote: »
    He should have been arrested and had his car confiscated at the very least, like wtf letting off with a warning again??

    And lol at the gard who couldnt differentiate between smoke and steam.



    And why do we have mondeos, in the traffic corps that cant keep up with astras on the motorway?


    yeah i thought that young lad should of had the car taken off him,he was a learner with no full licence holder with him,wheres his €1000 fine:confused:
    he was just told to go home!

    what speed did he say they couldnt keep up was it 120mph???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    On RTE Player now. Nice use of Orbital - Belfast at the start.

    Those Donegal guards are the reverse of normal Donegal guards when it comes to young lads and cars. I had two spend twenty minutes trying to find something wrong with my car/licence/me just because they didn't think I was old enough to have a new car...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,735 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Missed it last night so going to watch it now on RTE player.

    http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1049142


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    bladebrew wrote: »
    yeah i thought that young lad should of had the car taken off him,he was a learner with no full licence holder with him,wheres his €1000 fine:confused:
    he was just told to go home!

    what speed did he say they couldnt keep up was it 120mph???

    They could take the car off him but him being only 17 he would have only been put on the jlo scheme anyway, so its just preventing the inevitable.


    I dont agree with jlo for traffic offences, ive heard of drink drivers just getting a little slap on the wrist because they are under 18!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,735 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    bladebrew wrote: »
    yeah i thought that young lad should of had the car taken off him,he was a learner with no full licence holder with him,wheres his €1000 fine:confused:
    he was just told to go home!

    "Sure, this veh-hi-kal is not fit to be on the road. Drive on"

    What a fuc*ing joke. With policing like that, it's no wonder there are so many fatal collisions around Donegal. Driver's like that, in cars like that, need to be take off the road, not sent to re-fuel!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭not14talk


    I see they took advantage of the Crowne Plaza building in Dundalk for filming of the roads at the start of the program. I didn't even cop until I saw the matthews coach.

    That young lad should have had his car taken off him but not even to get him to ring his parents so that he would have had a fully licensed driver with him is a joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭furtzy


    R.O.R wrote: »
    "Sure, this veh-hi-kal is not fit to be on the road. Drive on"

    What a fuc*ing joke. With policing like that, it's no wonder there are so many fatal collisions around Donegal. Driver's like that, in cars like that, need to be take off the road, not sent to re-fuel!

    exactly...was absolutely f**kin fuming at that. Sums up the Gardai in total that clip. what if that clown had wiped out some other poor motorist after being allowed drive on. Any of the garda members on here care to respond?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    The guy in the jeep should have been given more then two points (possibly a day in court)... breaking a red light,speeding, dangerous driving and driving without due care..

    The lads on the motorbikes at that junction were blessed a second or two and it would have ended very badly for them ll because the gob****e in the jeep was late for a meeting..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,174 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    hobochris wrote: »
    The guy in the jeep should have been given more then two points (possibly a day in court)... breaking a red light,speeding, dangerous driving and driving without due care..

    The lads on the motorbikes at that junction were blessed a second or two and it would have ended very badly for them ll because the gob****e in the jeep was late for a meeting..

    I believe this is the Garda showing his discretion in the situation. Although I think the book should have been thrown at him for his speed and his arrogant lane changing on the roundabout to clear the lights I will guarantee you that there would be people then complaning the Garda should have been more lenient.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 roadwars


    hobochris wrote: »
    The guy in the jeep should have been given more then two points (possibly a day in court)... breaking a red light,speeding, dangerous driving and driving without due care..

    The lads on the motorbikes at that junction were blessed a second or two and it would have ended very badly for them ll because the gob****e in the jeep was late for a meeting..

    Lose lose for the guards then is it?? If this was you or I or someone we knew, i think we would be over the moon that we only got 2 penalty points. It was good policing using discretion and I presume what the guard would like to have happen to him if he was in the drivers situation. Probably be best to dismount from the high horse before you collapse from oxygen deprivation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,174 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    roadwars wrote: »
    Lose lose for the guards then is it?? If this was you or I or someone we knew, i think we would be over the moon that we only got 2 penalty points. It was good policing using discretion and I presume what the guard would like to have happen to him if he was in the drivers situation. Probably be best to dismount from the high horse before you collapse from oxygen deprivation

    Curious, and at the same time, ironic user name or just a coincidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    bladebrew wrote: »
    yeah i thought that young lad should of had the car taken off him,he was a learner with no full licence holder with him,wheres his €1000 fine:confused:

    Plus he wasn't displaying L Plates, thats another €1k fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    DonJose wrote: »
    Plus he wasn't displaying L Plates, thats another €1k fine.

    Where are you getting the E1,000 from?

    +Wheres the EURO symbol on the keyboard?:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭furtzy


    DonJose wrote: »
    I found it unbelievable that he let the little fukker drive away considering he was 17 years old, a provisional license holder, driving unaccompanied and had been stopped a month earlier doing 138 in a 100 zone!!!

    I've contacted the Garda press office on this and suggest anyone else who feels this was ridiculous behaviour to let the driver continue to do the same

    press_office@garda.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,778 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Where are you getting the E1,000 from?

    +Wheres the EURO symbol on the keyboard?:)

    The law, as amended in 2007.

    Its Alt-GR + 4 on a Windows PC with an Irish keyboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    DonJose wrote: »
    Plus he wasn't displaying L Plates, thats another €1k fine.

    Long story short he woulda got put on the jlo scheme anyways, wouldnt have gotten to court!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    roadwars wrote: »
    Lose lose for the guards then is it?? If this was you or I or someone we knew, i think we would be over the moon that we only got 2 penalty points. It was good policing using discretion and I presume what the guard would like to have happen to him if he was in the drivers situation. Probably be best to dismount from the high horse before you collapse from oxygen deprivation

    Don't remember ever being on a high horse?! All I did is voice my opinion, I'm both a motorist and a biker and as a biker it gets very frustrating to see people such as the guy in the jeep drive dangerously with the end result often being someone else paying the price. I'm not saying bikers are perfect either but most are alot more careful - if we are involved in an accident, regardless of fault, we always end up worse off. Unfortunately careless drivers such as the guy in the jeep are plentiful on Irish roads.

    IMO, It should be zero tolerance when it comes to road safety, not the garda using their discretion. Would you be arguing garda discretion if he hurt or killed someone you knew due to his idiotic driving?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Anyway, at least this show points out that not all Gardai are on complete power trips, like some people think and use their discretion, even though they shoud not have on various occasions in the show.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 roadwars


    Berty wrote: »
    Curious, and at the same time, ironic user name or just a coincidence.

    I love the show guilty as charged, personally i think its way better than the irish version
    hobochris wrote: »
    Don't remember ever being on a high horse?! All I did is voice my opinion, I'm both a motorist and a biker and as a biker it gets very frustrating to see people such as the guy in the jeep drive dangerously with the end result often being someone else paying the price. I'm not saying bikers are perfect either but most are alot more careful - if we are involved in an accident, regardless of fault, we always end up worse off. Unfortunately careless drivers such as the guy in the jeep are plentiful on Irish roads.

    IMO, It should be zero tolerance when it comes to road safety, not the garda using their discretion. Would you be arguing garda discretion if he hurt or killed someone you knew due to his idiotic driving?

    OK fully agree that going through the light was wrong, but he got pinged for that and rightly so, but then taking him to court for speeding and dangerous driving and driving without due care and attention and X,Y and Z might well ruin the poor lads life. Zero tolerance would result in nobody on the roads!! to me zero tolerance would mean 2 points for 61 in a 60, whereas discretion to me means the guard with the speed gun lets the little 1kmph go and no bodies day is any the worse for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    roadwars wrote: »
    OK fully agree that going through the light was wrong, but he got pinged for that and rightly so, but then taking him to court for speeding and dangerous driving and driving without due care and attention and X,Y and Z might well ruin the poor lads life. Zero tolerance would result in nobody on the roads!! to me zero tolerance would mean 2 points for 61 in a 60, whereas discretion to me means the guard with the speed gun lets the little 1kmph go and no bodies day is any the worse for it.

    Yeah, but the driver would have recieved four penalty points at the most excluding dangerous driving. They disappear after 2 years (I think).

    Thats not exactly gonna ruin his life. He looks like quite a wealthy man!

    And he would have been mortified being caught on tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭alexmcred


    TBH I think it showed how far behind the UK we are when it comes to enforcement. It didn't do the Gardai any favors.

    Yet again the Irish version of a show is fairly crap in comparison Road wars is much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    donvito99 wrote: »
    +Wheres the EURO symbol on the keyboard?:)

    Ctrl+Alt+4 on most Windows PCs. Alt+2 on a Mac.

    I thought the program was OK - nothing special. Yeah the guy in SUV deserved more but from what I saw the Gardaí didn't actually catch him at a specific speed - the driver left the M1 on a slip road before the Gardaí could match his speed.

    EDIT: the Garda's departing words to the SV driver were "Keep her lit"......... Interesting...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭mikkael


    I have to admit I didn't see it ... but my experiences with the traffic corp. have been 100% negative. The ordinary Gardai are fine with traffic enforcement - and fair - but traffic corps. sucks imho.

    First off I get tailed from a filling station. I don't just mean tailed in the normal way, I mean they zoomed up behind me as if I'd just robbed a bank. They followed me for about 5 km., completely oblivious to the wobbly Hyundai Accent in front of me with 6 people in it. They ( T.C. ) didn't indicate once, and when they were done they did a U-turn on a hairpin bend. This was all at night.

    They did the same thing a 2nd. time. This time I got completely pi$$ed, and indicated left and pulled in slowly on a straight. I rang the station to ask them why, when half of rural Ireland was driving around with mud - covered and illegible number plates, they had the hots for me?

    This was all in Thurles incidentally. I quickly discovered that the T.C. work 'part time' and identifying anyone is impossible, it seems. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, I go to Dunlaoghaire at night to buy a magazine. When I go to exit the parking space I hear beeping. I look back ( again ) and can just about see a T.C. car with the headlights off half in the parking space behind me, as in on the wrong side of the road.

    Obviously the driver came down the hill at a right angle to the road I was on too fast, and was between two minds whether to pull in or keep going ( detectives were pulled alongside a car further up ) and she became disorientated. The sheer arrogance was amazing. Her female colleague then ran into the chippers, before they took off at what could only be described as a dangerous speed, important chips mission completed.

    As someone who is constantly tailgated at legal speeds ( and usually with the person behind having every opportunity to overtake ) it disgusts me to find that this arrogant behaviour is 'official' as well. More recently again, a motorcycle fella passed me at at least 160 kph on the N7. These are the same guys who keep telling us that people think "it'll never be them".

    From my observations of the Traffic Corps, I think they're a detective unit who do a bit of traffic on the side. Go around any rural town and they're more interested in finding out who's about than traffic offenses. Another yellow - pack govt. measure if you ask me. What I do know is that zero accountability has proven itself pretty badly in the past in every other walk of life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    alexmcred wrote: »
    TBH I think it showed how far behind the UK we are when it comes to enforcement. It didn't do the Gardai any favors.

    Yet again the Irish version of a show is fairly crap in comparison Road wars is much better.

    Agree that the programme is not great. However as stated it showed the Gardai have the power of discretion something the UK cops do not have. The guy in the Santa Fe got a warning and 2 points for going through the red light. They would have difficulty proving speeding as I don't think they had him on radar.. Anyway the point is does anybody really want UK style traffic cops?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    landyman wrote: »

    And lol at the gard who couldnt differentiate between smoke and steam.


    True. Not to mention the muppet driving the car who hadn't the cop on to turn the engine off rather than let his coolant boil away into the Donegal night. What he didn't get in a fine might cost him in a head gasket :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭newmills


    Watched it also but was disappointed not to have seen them sitting on the stillorgan dual carriageway shooting fish in a barrel sorry catching dangerous drivers doing 65 in 60!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Enjoyable enough show, i'll watch it again. My favourite bit was stopping your man for breaking a red light, excessive speeding and then telling him to "keep her lit".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    not14talk wrote: »
    I see they took advantage of the Crowne Plaza building in Dundalk for filming of the roads at the start of the program. I didn't even cop until I saw the matthews coach.

    Also some lazy film making, they just flipped one of the traffic clips horizontally and played it again.


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