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andy_g · 23-05-2009 02:34AM

oh look its a helicopter and a fugly one at that too it cant take off with the props straight only on the tilt there for being a whirley bird no hang your head in shame gatling

Gatling · 23-05-2009 02:41AM

russian answer to the f22

the SU T50 being built with the help of india

andy_g · 23-05-2009 02:44AM

looks familiar haha f15 rear section f22 mid section to a mig frontal end like a fulcrum interestin lol

Gatling · 23-05-2009 02:45AM

yeah its mad mix still cant beleive there getting india to built it aswell as all the software to fly it

andy_g · 23-05-2009 02:52AM

as said in other forums we have taken a step backwards by removing concorde from service que dex :P

Gatling · 23-05-2009 02:58AM

blah

Harlequin Wolf · 23-05-2009 02:58AM

That Osprey is a piece of garbage, it's engines keep bursting into flames.

andy_g · 23-05-2009 03:00AM

i completely agree still havent mastered its weight to balance problem yet

Gatling · 23-05-2009 03:04AM

Harlequin Wolf wrote: »

That Osprey is a piece of garbage, it's engines keep bursting into flames.

andy_g wrote: »

i completely agree still havent mastered its weight to balance oroblem yet

it already in service in iraq and afghanistan and the the Marines and Socom havent had any issues with them

Harlequin Wolf · 23-05-2009 03:08AM

Gatling wrote: »

it already in service in iraq and afghanistan and the the Marines and Socom havent had any issues with them

Apart from the engines bursting into flames. 2 of them were flying to england for an airshow and had to divert to iceland because of engine problems, one of them had to have an engine completely replaced. Another had serious engine issues while on display maneouvre's in Italy and one that was sent for front line testing in Iraq also suffered engine failure on it's first operational flight.

andy_g · 23-05-2009 03:08AM

they have there all posted on the ntsb and military crash investigation sites almost 200 incidents with them now

Rogue-Trooper · 23-05-2009 06:50AM

andy_g wrote: »

looks familiar haha f15 rear section f22 mid section to a mig frontal end like a fulcrum interestin lol

Even as a child, Andy_g had a passion for aviation. While his friends were scutting on the back of the local bread man's van, Andy would hang out on runway 28........

Masada · 23-05-2009 11:05AM

that osprey is f1@L! its had more crashes than pretty much any other aircraft, during its prototype phase a pilto died trying to take off in it. the only thing cool about the osprey is same fisher used it.

Harlequin Wolf · 23-05-2009 08:29PM

Masada wrote: »

that osprey is f1@L! its had more crashes than pretty much any other aircraft, during its prototype phase a pilto died trying to take off in it. the only thing cool about the osprey is same fisher used it.

The amount of time and money thats been spent on the project is scandalous, and they haven't even got a working variant yet. America's military R&D motto should be "America, flogging dead horses with the best of them"

Hande hoche! · 23-05-2009 10:02PM

To be fair at least the osprey entered service unlike the Comanche. http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/jdw/jdw040223_2_n.shtml
And on a lighter note
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27437

Sod'o swords · 23-05-2009 10:09PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

And on a lighter note
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27437

hehe, i like i like.

FunkBlaster87 · 23-05-2009 10:26PM

Think you're bein a bit hard on the osprey. Granted did havee a lot of development problems but its a completely unique aircraft. Once fully operational, it will revoltionisenaval aviation. All of sudden one aircraft can perform the duties of many. It can do search and rescue, anti-sub, anti shipping and much more.

Seriously, you guys need to start playing harpoon

Harlequin Wolf · 24-05-2009 12:29AM

FunkBlaster87 wrote: »

Think you're bein a bit hard on the osprey. Granted did havee a lot of development problems but its a completely unique aircraft. Once fully operational, it will revoltionisenaval aviation. All of sudden one aircraft can perform the duties of many. It can do search and rescue, anti-sub, anti shipping and much more.

I disagree, there's an old saying "jack of all trades and master of none". When you try and build something that can do everything it usually ends up being able to do nothing (at least not particularly well).

Planes are planes and helicopters are helicopters. Each has its strengths and its own roles to perform and when ye try an make one catch all craft you always fail.........hard.:p

FunkBlaster87 · 24-05-2009 12:47AM

Well i'd never say amercian carriers are only gonna start just carrying ospreys, but the aircraft is far more versatile than any helicopter. There would no longer be a need to carry 3 or 4 different types of helicopters to do different jobs. The osprrey could do them all. And carry some harpoons for whenthe going gets rough.:D

Sounding like a bit of sales man here.

moggser · 24-05-2009 12:52AM

please please please for the love of jelly fish will ya can the bleeeedin
plane talk or fof off to a thread thats dedicated to it
i know is a off topic thread but you's are turning it in to a topic thread kinda
defeats the purpose dont it
so stop extractin urine (takin the piss)
and talk about nonsense like i wonder how much a price of a turnip is in iraq
or how everytime ya see a bald person you think to yourself hmmm must have a boiled egg:):)

Harlequin Wolf · 24-05-2009 01:30AM

FunkBlaster87 wrote: »

There would no longer be a need to carry 3 or 4 different types of helicopters to do different jobs. The osprrey could do them all. And carry some harpoons for whenthe going gets rough.:D

I get what you're saying, the point i was makin was that one aircraft tryin to do 3 different jobs would never be able to do them as well as three aircraft specifically designed for each job. A fighter bomber will never match a fighters maneouvreability nor be able to carry near as much ordnance as a dedicated bomber.

I guess its all about personal preference. I personally think it's worth the slightly higher cost of having to field more task oriented aircraft than fewer all purpose ones. Just my opinion

andy_g · 24-05-2009 02:01AM

moggser wrote: »

please please please for the love of jelly fish will ya can the bleeeedin
plane talk or fof off to a thread thats dedicated to it
i know is a off topic thread but you's are turning it in to a topic thread kinda
defeats the purpose dont it
so stop extractin urine (takin the piss)
and talk about nonsense like i wonder how much a price of a turnip is in iraq
or how everytime ya see a bald person you think to yourself hmmm must have a boiled egg:):)

we are remaining off topic its non airsoft related there for it is off topic :P

andy_g · 24-05-2009 02:04AM

FunkBlaster87 wrote: »

Think you're bein a bit hard on the osprey. Granted did havee a lot of development problems but its a completely unique aircraft. Once fully operational, it will revoltionisenaval aviation. All of sudden one aircraft can perform the duties of many. It can do search and rescue, anti-sub, anti shipping and much more.

Seriously, you guys need to start playing harpoon

ok i wont say it didnt have problems but all aircraft do and its handy it can do multiple roles but i have i have to say they could of designed another helicopter to do it since the v22 is a whirley bird and not fixed wing because it has two big rotor on it and technically the wings are only being classed as pylons

ED E · 24-05-2009 02:26AM

Agree with Harlequin on this. I like the idea of ospreys and all that, but they're never gonna really succeed.

What they should spend that budget on is a more effecient power source for conventional helo's. The more effecient the engine the further and faster they can go without loosing agility. That said, the day of the helicopter is coming to an end for military purposes. No matter what you do they will always be very vulnerable. Observation can be done by satilite and if you need to strike a point you simply dial the co-ordinates into a smart bomb on UAV and hit go. They will still play a role in logistics for a while, but soon enough some clever millitary researcher will design a plane that can land on any paved road(without burning a third of its fuel

) and take off again without a giant catapult.

On another note: 24 finale, bit of a let down in my eyes, though ye 24 detractors will say that was always to be expected:rolleyes:

andy_g · 24-05-2009 02:39AM

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

What they should spend that budget on is a more effecient power source for conventional helo's. The more effecient the engine the further and faster they can go without loosing agility.

not really true you could slap a really big fast engine for example into any type of aircraft its turning radius is greatly widened=less manouverability that being said if you look at the formula for lift its the same for whirleybirds and fixed wing for you guys that dont know it here it is L = (1/2) d v2 s CL
L = Lift, which must equal the airplane's weight in pounds
d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude.
v = velocity of an aircraft expressed in feet per second
s = the wing area of an aircraft in square feet
CL = Coefficient of lift , which is determined by the type of airfoil and angle of attack.

took me ages to find my file on this havent taught the coefficient of lift lesson in a longtime

Hande hoche! · 24-05-2009 03:11AM

Moar osprey!! http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/V-22_Osprey

Dr_Pepper · 24-05-2009 03:14AM

moggser wrote: »

please please please for the love of jelly fish will ya can the bleeeedin
plane talk or fof off to a thread thats dedicated to it
i know is a off topic thread but you's are turning it in to a topic thread kinda
defeats the purpose dont it
so stop extractin urine (takin the piss)
and talk about nonsense like i wonder how much a price of a turnip is in iraq
or how everytime ya see a bald person you think to yourself hmmm must have a boiled egg:):)

At least u tried.
Fellas there is an aviation forum somewhere that you can take this convo to.

Harlequin Wolf · 24-05-2009 03:19AM

HEY, WHO LIKES PIE? *raises hand*

andy_g · 24-05-2009 03:22AM

likes pie and also already post on the aviation forum we're now speaking of aerosoft :P blame masada for this mini avaition off topicness. yeah more v22 whirleybird arguemeny :rolleyes:

Hande hoche! · 24-05-2009 03:25AM

Harlequin Wolf wrote: »

HEY, WHO LIKES PIE? *raises hand*

Rhubarb FTW and yourself?

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