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SOS Being Called Up To The Main Roster?????

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Ok. But out of interest, what was your point when you said this;

    :rolleyes:
    Seriously, McMahon was right, PW fans do have goldfish memories.
    They had two series, once in 89 and another in 90.
    Cannibal was discussing Roode's series with Warrior, and you admit that Roode had 'improved' by the time his series with Warrior came around. Wheres the problem?

    The problem is that people forget how sh*t Rude was one year earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭the flananator


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    Seriously, McMahon was right, PW fans do have goldfish memories.
    They had two series, once in 89 and another in 90.



    The problem is that people forget how sh*t Rude was one year earlier.

    Ok. Any thoughts on SOS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    Ok. Any thoughts on SOS?

    Haven't seen his work since 2006, but if it's as bland as it was then, then they won't be much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    He has one major advantage over those guys recently brought up , in that he came up with his own gimmick years ago and has time to work with it. Unlike many of the guys that have been sent out as circus freaks or dancing wrestlers and such, who hadn't a chance of getting their gimmick over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭slicus ricus


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    Haven't seen his work since 2006, but if it's as bland as it was then, then they won't be much.

    There's about 25 episodes of FCW TV on youtube, the majority of which have SOS in a predominant role. I suggest you check some of these out; I would be shocked if you didn't see a huge improvement from SOS circa 2006. Do you really think it's fair to give an opinion on the guy that is based on his performances 3 years ago??
    He has one major advantage over those guys recently brought up , in that he came up with his own gimmick years ago and has time to work with it. Unlike many of the guys that have been sent out as circus freaks or dancing wrestlers and such, who hadn't a chance of getting their gimmick over.

    Spot on Tricity. I remember reading that one of the main criticisms of developmental talent in recent times was their inability to settle into a convincing character/persona. With SOS, WWE have a guy with an already well developed gimmick to throw into the mix: Add that to the other things he has going (size, unique look, now competent in-ring work, etc) and it's hard to imagine how WWE would not see him as an attractive proposition.

    I personally think we should be getting behind the guy! If he makes it big and people see him on worldwide TV, it will be a huge thing for Irish wrestling. I have lost count of the amount of people I've mentioned Irish wrestling to whose reaction was pretty much to laugh in my face, simply because Irish wrestling has yet to be put on the map. Fair enough, we have Finlay and a leprachaun on WWE but Finlay was never really associated with the wrestling scene in Ireland. SOS on the other hand came from the Irish scene and if he makes it big, people will stand up and take notice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭RAMPAGE1


    Let's suppose SOS makes it I cannot see how this benefits the Irish Wrestling Scene. Just Look at the number of British guys who were successful in WWE and the British Wrestling scene is in the gutter. Also if you have been looking at his FCW matches its hard to use a statement as competent in ring, just my opinion. I wish the guy well but I don't see any impact or longevity to a white muscled up Irish guy and based on recent information WWE is so concerned about what's going on in FCW that they are planning on sending in senior guys like Steamboat and Arn Anderson to sort it out. Just look at Drew Galloway there's a guy who's promos , mic skills, physicology and in ring work is far superior to SOS's and that guy is struggling to be re called up. Just my thoughts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    I hope for all our sakes that when he is callled upto the roster he gets rid of one word out of his vocabulary which is

    FELLA

    Everytime I hear it i want to tear my hair out

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭slicus ricus


    RAMPAGE1 wrote: »
    Let's suppose SOS makes it I cannot see how this benefits the Irish Wrestling Scene. Just Look at the number of British guys who were successful in WWE and the British Wrestling scene is in the gutter.

    When I said it would benefit the Irish scene, I meant in terms of getting more people interested in going to the shows! It's then up to the Irish promotions to either sink or swim when they have people's attention. With regards to the UK scene, there's no shortage of fans looking for good independent wrestling in the UK and this has quite a lot to do with British guys doing well in WWE. The reason the UK scene is in the gutter is because the promotions have made an absolute mess of things. Look at the momentum FWA had a few years ago and somehow they managed to fail.
    RAMPAGE1 wrote: »
    Also if you have been looking at his FCW matches its hard to use a statement as competent in ring, just my opinion. I wish the guy well but I don't see any impact or longevity to a white muscled up Irish guy

    In my opinion, his ring work in FCW has been competent; it's certainly as good as some of the guys on the current WWE roster. I actually think he is well placed to make an impact providing he impresses management enough to attain a call-up. Regarding longevity, well that's a different question entirely, fairly impossible to predict about anyone in the wrestling business.
    RAMPAGE1 wrote: »
    and based on recent information WWE is so concerned about what's going on in FCW that they are planning on sending in senior guys like Steamboat and Arn Anderson to sort it out.

    I could be wrong here, but as far as I was aware, the main issues WWE had with FCW have been resolved. From what I understood, these were issues with the running of the promotion rather than the development of talent. As I said, I could be wrong on that one.
    RAMPAGE1 wrote: »
    Just look at Drew Galloway there's a guy who's promos, mic skills, physicology and in ring work is far superior to SOS's and that guy is struggling to be re called up. Just my thoughts

    I agree with you here about Drew Galloway, he's a guy with bundles of talent and has unlimited potential. Unfortunately, it seems his initial call-up was a little premature as WWE didn't really have a spot for him. I would expect Drew to be called up pretty soon to be honest. He was actually one of the other 3 development guys mentioned in the report who has a good chance of TV very soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    I was talking to DJ Gabriel at Axxess in Houston and he said Drew and SOS would be called up soon enough


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah it looks like he will be called up this year. Not a great wrestler by any standereds but he has everything the WWE wants .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/new-wwe-talent-robert-roode-wwe-returning-to-germany-76303
    Florida Championship Wrestling (FCW) talent Sheamus O'Shaunnessy has been called up to the main WWE roster to work house shows and gain big-event experience.

    This really annoys me (not SOS), but the "source", Wrestlezone dont explain how they know that he will be called up.

    I'm usually a fan of WZ, spoilers are easy to read, its a pretty simple format.
    But i really want to know where they got they're information now :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,329 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    He is working Raw house shows for those curious..
    WWE Youngstown 5/9/09 house show results
    By Jared Hawkins
    Just got back from the WWE show at the newly christened Covelli Center (formerly the Chevrolet Centre) in Youngstown, Ohio, and figured I'd give you the results.
    Show was close to, if not, a sellout, which means at least 6,000 in attendance if I have my figures correct on that. Hot crowd for most of the night as well, likely due to the large number of kids in attendance.
    Howard Finkel does the ring announcing and actually got one of the best pops of the night, partly because the show was starting, and partly because it's Howard Finkel.
    1. Mickie James pinned Maryse with the MickieT in 9:28. Non-title, of course. Maryse appears to have gone to the Larry Zbyszko School of Stalling, which I guess is better than the Terry Garvin School of Self-Defense. Decent opener once it got started.
    Kelly Kelly is your host and she did the usual "Answer the easiest WWE trivia question in the world and we'll move you to the front row" contest.
    2. Chavo Guerrero pinned Festus with the Frog Splash in 1:38. Before the match, Guerrero cut a promo about being a big deal because of who his aunt is, then asked for the bell. Festus responded by singing, and he's surprisingly pretty good (much better than he came off on Raw). Entertaining while it lasted, and the added gimmick of the singing might be enough to get Festus over until it wears thin.
    3. Seamus O'Shaughnessy pinned Jamie Noble with a backbreaker out of a Rock Bottom position in 7:49. Noble gave his opponent a chance to leave the ring unharmed, which was declined as usual. The match was mostly Noble working the leg, which Seamus sold well, but overall I wasn't impressed with him. One of the worst matches of the night.
    4. The Miz pinned Kofi Kingston with a short DDT in 9:34. Miz cut a promo before the match, basically telling anybody who hasn't been watching TV what he's done since the draft and saying he'll go through the entire roster until he gets to Cena. The match itself was pretty good, with the crowd really into Kofi during his comebacks.
    5. MVP pinned William Regal in 15:01 with his mafia kick to retain the US Title. The good news is this was probably the second best match of the night. The problem is nobody was paying attention. Somebody spotted who they thought was John Cena walking through the crowd and taking a seat in the second row. I only saw him from the back but it didn't make sense since there's no angle, but people bought it, especially considering Regal challenged the "lookalike" into the ring on more than one occasion. The crowd was more concerned with the imposter than the match, which is a shame because they missed a pretty good match.
    Kelly Kelly came out with two fans to throw T-shirts out to random kids, then it was time for the intermission.
    6. Matt Hardy pinned Goldust with a cast to the head at 4:22. Hardy was once again wrestling under protest. Pretty much all stalling with a little armwork by Goldust before the finish. Worst match of the night but it almost had to be.
    7. Primo and Carlito defeated Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase by disqualification in 13:48 to retain the Unified Tag Team Title. After the hot tag, Primo appeared to be on his way to beating Rhodes when DiBiase hit Primo with a chair for the DQ. Legacy beat the champions down after the bell. Best match of the night.
    8. John Cena and Batista beat The Big Show and Randy Orton in 18:36 when Cena pinned Show with the Attitude Adjustment. Good match with insane crowd heat, as the crowd was about as pro-Cena as you could get, and as a result Batista was super over as well.
    Overall a very good show.
    http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/9248/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭RAMPAGE1


    Well I'm not surprised worst match of the night and against Noble who probably could make most guys look good and he's a road agent not a good start


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Kid Nothing


    Yeah in fairness if he can't put a decent match together with Noble then I can't see how he's gonna go far!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    RAMPAGE1 wrote: »
    Well I'm not surprised worst match of the night and against Noble who probably could make most guys look good and he's a road agent not a good start

    Not quite the worst match of the night, the Hardy v Goldust match held that honour.
    amull87 wrote: »
    Yeah in fairness if he can't put a decent match together with Noble then I can't see how he's gonna go far!

    It's a bit unfair to damn him on the back of one review of an eight minute match with a jobber at a house show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭OrtonViper


    Cactus Col wrote: »
    It's a bit unfair to damn him on the back of one review of an eight minute match with a jobber at a house show.

    You can call him a jobber but Jamie Noble is a very good wrestler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭the flananator


    OrtonViper wrote: »
    You can call him a jobber but Jamie Noble is a very good wrestler.

    Not the point.

    WWE were never going to book an unknown in a 20 minute back and forth battle. They put him out there in a 7 minute filler to see how he would fare wrestling a basic match in front of a live WWE crowd. And according to the review, he sold well; the road agents will like that.

    Sounds to me he did everything he needed to do appropriate to his position on the card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭OrtonViper


    Not the point.

    WWE were never going to book an unknown in a 20 minute back and forth battle. They put him out there in a 7 minute filler to see how he would fare wrestling a basic match in front of a live WWE crowd. And according to the review, he sold well; the road agents will like that.

    Sounds to me he did everything he needed to do appropriate to his position on the card.

    That's not my point. I believe SOS is a very good wrestler and could be quite big. I was point out that Cactus Col implied that Noble was a bad wrestler which couldn't be further from the truth, he probably one of the best wrestlers in WWE today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭the flananator


    OrtonViper wrote: »
    That's not my point. I believe SOS is a very good wrestler and could be quite big. I was point out that Cactus Col implied that Noble was a bad wrestler which couldn't be further from the truth, he probably one of the best wrestlers in WWE today.

    Oh right, fair enough. :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,758 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    And in fairness if noble's role was as a jobber he would be the one selling not SOS.

    I do think the report from the house show is not alot to go on. As said it was a chance for him to work a match with an experienced guy on front of a wwe crowd. The reporter could be used to seeing new guys like koslov on tv and expect that to be the norm.

    If SOS can sell well then he is half way there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭The Cannibal


    Just have him sell and sell, then make a hot tag to Finlay to clean house. Sorted :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Cactus Col


    OrtonViper wrote: »
    That's not my point. I believe SOS is a very good wrestler and could be quite big. I was point out that Cactus Col implied that Noble was a bad wrestler which couldn't be further from the truth, he probably one of the best wrestlers in WWE today.

    Well, I wasn't trying to imply that he was a bad wrestler, but I was pointing out that it was a match between a jobber and a nobody. This is a bathroom break / merchandise stand type of match. I can imagine there would have been very little atmosphere / interest for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    Working with Noble is clearly to get him better in the ring, not to get him over to house show fans. They'll put him in with one of the better workers there and he'll learn by osmosis over time. His wrestling ability is largely irrelevant for a man of his size because it will be look and crowd reaction that will book him a slot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    RAMPAGE1 wrote: »
    Well I'm not surprised worst match of the night and against Noble who probably could make most guys look good and he's a road agent not a good start

    Meh, since when has having the worst match of the night ever been something that goes against big men? Khali would have been out of a job a long time ago if that was the case!:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭RAMPAGE1


    Cactus Col wrote: »
    Not quite the worst match of the night, the Hardy v Goldust match held that honour.



    It's a bit unfair to damn him on the back of one review of an eight minute match with a jobber at a house show.

    A jobber the guy is a ROAD AGENT which means he's probably well thought of and not just a jobber. Oh and I'm not judging him on one review most if not all of his reviews are of a similar trend and from the matches I've seen he's poor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭RAMPAGE1


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Meh, since when has having the worst match of the night ever been something that goes against big men? Khali would have been out of a job a long time ago if that was the case!:pac:


    First of all what's Meh and secondly Khali is an established star and SOS is trying to get their. In fairness to SOS I don't think he is trying to develop himself in the same vain as Khali I believe he wants to be a top wrestler


  • Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Also SOS is not actually that Big . They will bill him as 6 5 but he is actually only 6 3 .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    SOS was obviously just in this as a glorified try out with Noble, if it was anything else he would have been just squashed by a bigger star.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭the flananator


    A 'well-thought of' job-merchant is still a job-merchant. And SOS kicked his ass!! Whoop!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Also SOS is not actually that Big . They will bill him as 6 5 but he is actually only 6 3 .

    Isnt he 6 foot 2 (so whatcha gonna do?)


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