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short scale basses

  • 15-04-2009 02:05PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭


    hi all

    long time, no type!....

    whats the skinny on short scale basses
    (i did a search but not much info)

    as a guitarist i like the idea
    but know nothing about these or basses in general,
    just that i find full scale basses hard to play with the wide fret gaps
    and the distance between the strings,

    i have b'stardised an old guitar into a six string bass of sorts
    and like the speed i can get round it, but its sloppy as you can imagine

    this would not gig and would be for home dossing/recording

    any pro's and cons welcome

    Regards

    4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    hi all

    long time, no type!....

    whats the skinny on short scale basses
    (i did a search but not much info)

    as a guitarist i like the idea
    but know nothing about these or basses in general,
    just that i find full scale basses hard to play with the wide fret gaps
    and the distance between the strings,

    i have b'stardised an old guitar into a six string bass of sorts
    and like the speed i can get round it, but its sloppy as you can imagine

    this would not gig and would be for home dossing/recording

    any pro's and cons welcome

    Regards

    4
    It might take a bit of time to get used to the fret spacing on the regular scale one but it'll be worth it. In the end it might help with your stretching on guitar. ;)

    The shortscale won't be as "tight" sounding as a regular scale bass and will probably sound a bit boomy also. This will be a pain when it comes to recording, it'll be harder to fit it into the mix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭eoin5


    Theres also medium scale basses like the rickenbackers. Easy to play and sound punchy, I'm sure theres cheap knockoffs to be found on teh intarweb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    The missus has a Japanese Fender Mustang which, I have to admit, surprised me. It's a piece of piss to play and actually has a decent, puncy tone.

    All the same, 34" is the only way to go, especially if you're going to be recording. The selection of short scale basses is poor and that's being generous. Get a 34" scale Jazz bass and it'll cover every tone you'll need, you'll adjust to the size soon enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    eoin5 wrote: »
    Theres also medium scale basses like the rickenbackers. Easy to play and sound punchy, I'm sure theres cheap knockoffs to be found on teh intarweb.

    Good luck with that. Rickenbacker try their very hardest to remove any copies of their instruments from sale. Even used ones!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭fourmations


    thanks all

    i really dont have the dosh to be buying anything
    at all pricey, i mean , really dont!

    this cheap as chips sx shortscale gets good press
    usual swap pickups and wiring deal though
    still, its about 140 to my door from the us

    harmony central blurb
    i know its harmony central but there are a few old dogs that
    rate it highly for the pennies it is and all the bass forums really like it also,
    google "sx shortscale bass" for gushing praise in general

    regards

    4


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    thanks all

    i really dont have the dosh to be buying anything
    at all pricey, i mean , really dont!

    this cheap as chips sx shortscale gets good press
    usual swap pickups and wiring deal though
    still, its about 140 to my door from the us

    harmony central blurb
    i know its harmony central but there are a few old dogs that
    rate it highly for the pennies it is and all the bass forums really like it also,
    google "sx shortscale bass" for gushing praise in general

    regards

    4

    The SX basses are ok, but nothing amazing. I still think you would be better off buying a 34" scale bass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    I don't think it's fair to say that short scale basses are any more problematic for recording or mixing than any given 34", broadly speaking. There are good instruments and bad instruments. It might be harder to get a decent 30", but they do work, and I've heard some great ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭rgjmce


    epiphone EB-0 is a short scale bass, i know myself being a guitarist too it tough playing a full sized bass but the EB-0 is nice to play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭eoin5


    Dord wrote: »
    Good luck with that. Rickenbacker try their very hardest to remove any copies of their instruments from sale. Even used ones!

    I can imagine the rickenbacker police turning up in sgt peppers uniforms :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Zangetsu


    I had the same problem myself with full size basses, little guitar hands didn't like them at all so I started looking around for skinnier necks, Ibanez, ESP and Cort are the ones I found locally that made life easier for me. Maybe there's more... Bought an Ibanez recently and I couldn't be happier!

    Can't stand necks that feel like bassball bats. :pac:

    Check them out!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 basshead56


    Hi,
    I´ve owned around 25-30 odd basses in the last few years and a good few have been short or med scale.
    The best of the lot were The Fender Mustang (a reissue I think). The Fender Musicmaster (still have that, its a 1976/7) and an Epiphone EB (thats the SG type one) someone painted it blue!
    All three have great tones and have a very playable necks. in terms of recordind etc, The Mustang didnt do EXACTLY as promised (sound like a Precision)-it sounded way more trebley/tiney but still had enough bottom end to sound pretty good. The Musicmaster-I still use to record-great punchy, deep sound and nice high end too. The epiphone sounds lovely and warm (did two tracks with that) cause of the humbucker.

    Other apparently half-decent ones to try are:
    The Squier Bronco. Squier havent had an easy time amongst players for a while, but they genuinely do make good entry-level gear at decent prices (or at least they did before Fender started implementing ridiculous pricing strategies!). The bronco I think is part of the Affinity series and doesnt cost a fortune at all (round 120). Single coil pick up, maple neck and fingerboard, die cast hardware, volume and tone controls. Simple and sounds good.

    Tiesco, Kay or EKO basses (old japanese Telecaster shaped basses, Ebay, less than 100 typically)-collectors love em for some reason!

    Cort are getting a lot of decent press these days so I would recommend trying one out. They arent ridiculously priced either

    Of course, then there are med scale basses- Ric if you are super-rich, Daisy Rock if you arent!:)
    Hope that helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭fourmations


    thanks all

    i got a loan of a regular 34" scale bass
    for a week and actully got used to it pretty quick

    so, i will buy a full scale

    still playing with the SX idea though
    they get really good press and are apparently
    similar in quality to MIM fenders

    any thoughts of the p / j option as it will be my only bass

    Regards

    4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 basshead56


    I had an SX and to be honest, not fantastic.
    I would reckon get urself a second hand Fender MIM or MIJ on Adverts.ie they go from around 300 up.
    As for the Precision or Jazz option... hmm
    Depends what kinda sound you´re after. I started with jazz basses and swore id never go down the ´boring´ route and play a precision, but damn, they sound amazingly good!they were the first and in my own opinion, are the best!
    U could find one that has a combination of both pickup sets. The japanese ones are great for that-e.g. Jazz special or Precision Lyte or the Mexican Zone bass.
    The beauty of those is that they really do give a clear and balanced sound and still put out decent lows.
    My weapon of choice at the moment is a 97 American Precison Deluxe. It has P bass pickup and a Musicman stingray Humbucker in the bridge position(couldnt decide which I wanted to bring to a gig, the Stingray or my 70´s pbass- this honestly does the job of both). I got that really cheap (considering the new price) on Adverts.
    Sometimes you just get lucky!
    All the best man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    These look pretty nice:
    http://64.180.97.138/kinal/bass.htm

    Expensive though.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB2S4kWF2yo&feature=related
    Sounds decent aswell.

    Good luck.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,729 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    i have b'stardised an old guitar into a six string bass of sorts


    MURDERERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!


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