Man Utd vs FC Porto

Another shocking performance from United. No defensive solidity. No midfield protection and no invention up front.

Just a terrible performane.

No excuses for it, no missing loads of players (though Rio and a decent right back might have helped) but we simply have not been good enough for well over a month at this point, and for much of the season imo.

No explanation for it either, can't even say it was the liverpool game knocking the stuffing out of it, cause we were terrible before that game too.

Fergie needs to sort it out, but i have to think that if he could, he would have by now, or at least look like we were on the way to recovery.

With this result tonight, we are likely out of the CL this season, on current form I do not see us going to Porto and winning.

I am ashamed of how the team is playing at the moment. We deserve nothing this season on this form. nothing.

van der Saar - no command of the are or control of the defense.

Evra - ok going forward, terrible defensively, made no effort to block down the cross for the third. very disappointed in him, was at fault against Villa too.

O'Shea - got into great positions going forward, but then was O'Shea when he got there, which is disappointing, didn't do great defensively.

Evans - Nervous and poor for most of the night.

Vidic - lucky on a number of occassions, no command of the defence or his area.

Ronaldo - was Ronaldo really, looked capable of doing something, but frustrating.

Scholes - terrible, stray passes and no control in midfield.

Carrick - the same as Scholes.

Fletcher - one of our better players imo.

Park - Shocking, just shocking, a truly terrible performance, headless workrate, couldn't even pass the ball.

Rooney - looked good when he got the ball, but not enough from him.

Overall, I can't believe how poor we were tactically. The game was so open, but only cause we were terrible, our midfield offered no protection to the defence and no real opposition to the Porto midfield, they ran through us and beyond us way too easily. when we did have the ball, we couldn't do anything with it cause we couldn't keep the ball.

Worst performance of the season imo, and tgey have been steadily getting worse. dread to think wat will happen away to sunderland this weekend.

Ferguson needs to do something, but what... i have no idea.

Really don't see us beating Porto away.

On current form we'll be lucky to add any silverware to the Carling Cup, we definitely won't in fact, with this form. Don't know what is going to happen from here.

Highsider wrote: »

Teach me oh masterful one. Rafa's got to Fergie and since the Liverpool result Utd have'nt been the same...FACT.

please god stop talking! Liverpool fans should not be indulging in borderline gloating. We've been bitten too many times before.

I think the hype surrounding Machedo is emblematic of some of the problems at United. A guy comes in and scores a good goal and suddenly he's a pin up and the next Ronaldo, blah blah blah...

Could you imagine how Keane would've reacted to the defending. There are no leaders in that team (a la Gerard at Liverpool).

whatawaster wrote: »

United look very mentally frail at the moment.

Ronny Whealen claims they're frightened. Thoughts?

Vanbis wrote: »

Carrick was absolutely rubbish, he never tackles just throws a leg out in hope with minimum effort and pulls out of most tackles including 50/50. The last two games against Aston Villa and Porto there is two much space between the defense and midfield and again tonight the defense didn’t get enough protection against Porto, Forget the winning the Champions League, if Porto can play like that away then you would expect better at home.

The likes of Flectcher, O'Shea and Carrick i dont think are good enough. Scholes is past which i am sorry to say as he has being my favourite player over the last five seasons. We really need to replace him Scholes this summer. We still have Hargreaves to come back and hopefully he hits the ground the running in the new season.

Ronaldo was again rubbish tonight and it might be time to sell him considering if we did we could easily buy 3 top players. Just a thought.

Fletcher had a good game, and he also had a good one on Sunday, one of very few in the team playing well.

Jazzy wrote: »

is it time to post pictures of ferguson as cracked glass? or maybe paste his head on to kevin keegan during that rant?........

Should put him a straight jacket.. Oh wait.. That would be about as arrogant as it gets..

Headshot wrote: »

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Highsider wrote: »

Are you for real? I'm saying Rafa has got to Fergie and you are saying i could be banned for saying that. Why? because it annoys people that it could be right. Listen i'll head out of this thread if people can't take a slagging. jeeeeees

I think the Rafa getting to Fergie thing might have some merit, in terms of the press conference he gave after the game where he explained in detail the tactics Liverpool employed in the 4 - 1 win. And there is no doubt that the Liverpool game was a watershed as far as Utd's form is concerned.

HOWEVER, the warning was in relation to the borderline trolling from you earlier in this thread - in particular the spate of 'Ronaldo free kick stance' posts that I had to delete. If you want further clarification, PM please.

daithijjj wrote: »

This is the first time ive ever written a post on united on this forum, so i presume you were speaking generally?

Yes I was, sorry for not making that clear.

Also, I would agree with anyone who says this United team need a leader.