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700 queue for food parcels...in Dublin

  • 02-04-2009 11:25AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭


    http://examiner.ie/ireland/ididmhcwid/
    A HUMAN river of despair and hunger flowed to the gates of the Capuchin Friary.

    In scenes reminiscent of a failed state, more than 700 people queued from early morning amid fears they would miss the free food parcels to be distributed — and they were right to worry as demand overwhelmed the friars and basic items like bread, tea, sugar and canned foods all ran out.

    The speed and brutality with which the economic crisis is searing through Irish society was clear from the faces of young people and parents amidst the hundreds of people snaking along Dublin’s Church Street, their grim reality mocked by the unseasonal sunshine.

    Brother Kevin Crowley expressed deep sadness at the desperation unfolding before him, but, with the numbers of those in need doubling so quickly, the day centre could no longer cope with demand.

    The friary is a lifeline for people who would once have looked upon it only as a destination for the homeless and truly destitute.

    Struggling families, youngsters and ex-professionals reeling from the suddenness of their fall from financial security made up a large swathe of the crowd, Br Crowley said. "I was talking to one young man who felt terrible he had to come here for food, but he was hungry and had no choice."

    This is not an isolated sight, merely a snapshot of the human cost of a crisis which is being repeated across Ireland.

    Taoiseach Brian Cowen has warned of five more years of pain, with living standards diving by 10% and, for the first time in the history of the state, the next generation doing worse than the present one. That pain is already hurting hard as the Live Register reached a grim new all-time high of 372,800 people in March.

    Mr Cowen mumbled his way through the latest figures in the Dáil, as if he could not bear to raise his voice to make it audible. And who would want to preside over such a shameful national waste of lives and talent?

    More than 80,000 people have swelled the dole queues in just three months — a 90% rise in one year — and Mr Cowen knows it’s only going to get worse as he admits the register will top 450,000 by year’s end. If he is willing publicly to acknowledge that, then there must be fear the reality could be much worse. Mr Cowen must see restricted cabinet papers warning of the social consequences of 500,000 or even 600,000 on the dole — it’s going to be a long, cold, bitter recession.

    There was no comfort to be drawn from the fact that the increase in those joining the welfare rolls had slowed from 1,000 a day to 500 a day during March. Gallows humour would suggest the drop is merely due to the fact the country now feels like it is simply running out of any jobs left to cut.

    Br Crowley wonders how he will feed the masses that flood into the day centre — those seeking free meals have doubled to 430 a day — on donations of e1m a year. Nearly half of that total, e450,000, comes from a government grant, but with welfare payments in the firing line of next week’s crisis budget, as well as everything else, who knows what the future holds?

    "It used to be the homeless, but now it’s those who have just lost their jobs, young people and families coming to us — and that’s worrying," Br Crowley added.

    The friary ran out of food parcels for the first time yesterday and was forced to leave some people empty-handed. However, that will not stop the tide of misery continuing to sweep along Church Street to its doors.

    Awful for those people to rely on food handouts to survive :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    horrible to see this and those lines will only get bigger :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Goduznt Xzst


    gurramok wrote: »
    Awful for those people to rely on food handouts to survive :(

    awful, truly awful...

    *goes back to apathetically thinking about what pub I'm going to blow half my wage packet on to pointlessly drink copious amounts of alcohol*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,004 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭junior_apollo


    how many of those people actually needed to be there?... Because im sure you'll find that there would have been the usual crowds who are just takers who did not see that there was people who actually needed help and support.. and instead with their own greed for free stuff took parcels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    What sort of stuff do they get?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    This is the only charity I donate to. I think they do a fantastic job with feeding and cleaning the poor & homeless. €1 = 1 meal. It makes it slightly easier to walk past beggers when I have donated to this place.

    http://www.homeless.ie/Capuchin_Day_Centre/Who_we_are.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I passed by there (2-3times) and at most there was about 300 people..... normally its about 50-70people ...but in recent weeks its increased significantly.

    the queue didnt go as far as church street....not a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Would I be correct in assuming that the food parcels come from charitable donations - and not the self-destructive government?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    how many of those people actually needed to be there?...


    I doubt many people would love queing with 700 mainly mentally ill and drug addicted folk to get some 'free nosh'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    how many of those people actually needed to be there?... Because im sure you'll find that there would have been the usual crowds who are just takers who did not see that there was people who actually needed help and support.. and instead with their own greed for free stuff took parcels.

    About 2 years ago I was working on Nicholas avenue for a couple of months and watched each time this place opened. There were loads of people wandering up with their bags of shopping an queing for the free food. These people were normal folk (quite a few eastern europeans for soem reason , some in work clothes) , clean, laughing and joking with each other and certainly not starvign.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,263 ✭✭✭bullpost


    I'd never do it for fear they'd give me the pigs head - like on Angelas Ashes :D

    On a more serious note - However authentic the people in the queue are, its still an indication of how bad things are getting - particularily for those on the bottom rungs of society. I'd imagine queunig for a food parcel would be hard for most people to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I would have just gone to McDonalds if I'd known so many beggars would be there. It's just so hard to pass up free stuff.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    While its absolutely sickening that anybody should have to rely on handouts in this day and age,there are some people who've been on handouts forever.
    There are also people so greedy that they'll turn up at something like this to scab freebies that could've been better given to somebody else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I agree with Stekelly .... theres a lot of people in the queues that dont look like they are starving - more like they hear theres free food available and go there.

    There is a lot of foreign eastern european types - but you'll also have to accept that these are the people that were doing the "lower end" jobs and have been made redundant first.

    "lower end" = jobs that some Irish people during the boom didnt want to do (ie. house cleaning, hotel staff, fast food staff, etc etc) ..... there wasnt a whole lot of depression amongst them - smiling/laughing - general conversation amongst each other and swapping items after they got their food parcels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    I think it's shocking that our Government are still sending 100's of millions overseas to feed poor people there, when there's quite clearly poor people here that aren't getting fed. I'm all for charity in any form, but you should be helping the people closer to home first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Mark200 wrote: »
    I think it's shocking that our Government are still sending 100's of millions overseas to feed poor people there, when there's quite clearly poor people here that aren't getting fed. I'm all for charity in any form, but you should be helping the people closer to home first.

    This was done on the politics forum a week or so ago. The consensus appears to be that people in Africa are more deserving apparently and that aids doesnt exist here, let alone starvation .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Mark200 wrote: »
    I think it's shocking that our Government are still sending 100's of millions overseas to feed poor people there, when there's quite clearly poor people here that aren't getting fed. I'm all for charity in any form, but you should be helping the people closer to home first.

    It's just politics. You have to be seen to be caring about the Third World, even if you don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    I went for the laugh, usual stuff, bread and canned soup.

    It was all non-branded stuff though, so i threw it in the bin on the way home and got a curry instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    90% of those people probably came from the Bargain Alerts forum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭c4cat


    WindSock wrote: »
    This is the only charity I donate to. I think they do a fantastic job with feeding and cleaning the poor & homeless. €1 = 1 meal. It makes it slightly easier to walk past beggers when I have donated to this place.

    http://www.homeless.ie/Capuchin_Day_Centre/Who_we_are.html

    Just made a small donation via paypal on their site,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    I work pretty much next door to the place. When im getting a coffee in the morning i see the lines queing up. At first i didnt know what was going on when i saw so many people, then i heard a radio interview with them the other week when it was 300 people reported in the queue, now this week its 500 in the queue. (i know the thread says 700 but the newspaper i saw this morning said 500, so obviously theres some exaggeration going on).
    Its a sorry sight to see thats for sure, and shame on anyone in that queue who isnt either homeless or genuinely out of food and money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    c4cat wrote: »
    Just made a small donation via paypal on their site,

    Doesnt count cos you went public looking for praise. Off you go and do it again anonymously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Doesnt count cos you went public looking for praise. Off you go and do it again anonymously.

    Exactly. You're polluting the enviornment with donations like that! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Stekelly wrote: »
    About 2 years ago I was working on Nicholas avenue for a couple of months and watched each time this place opened. There were loads of people wandering up with their bags of shopping an queing for the free food. These people were normal folk (quite a few eastern europeans for soem reason , some in work clothes) , clean, laughing and joking with each other and certainly not starvign.
    That's the idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    That's the idea.

    Collecting free food while carrying bags of shopping will lend itself to not starving alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    how many of those people actually needed to be there?... Because im sure you'll find that there would have been the usual crowds who are just takers who did not see that there was people who actually needed help and support.. and instead with their own greed for free stuff took parcels.

    Did you not see the thread that someone dies EVERY second of starvation. People risked their lives standing the queue.

    On a serious note it is nice to see a charitable organisation doing something for it's people.
    If even half of our foreign aid gestures where instead offered to any volunteer group for food and shelter to help our less fortunate this country would be a much better place.
    (Note to self - being too serious on AH these days)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,475 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Noopti wrote: »
    90% of those people probably came from the Bargain Alerts forum


    I have to say ...this is already a contender if not winner of "post of the year"..
    make sure to sticky it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    c4cat wrote: »
    Just made a small donation via paypal on their site,

    Good on you. It's well worth it when can you see where the money is going to.
    Stekelly wrote: »
    Collecting free food while carrying bags of shopping will lend itself to not starving alright.

    No one should ever go hungry in this country (again). Places like this are doing a great job to make sure of that. They may have bags of shopping but you don't know the circumstances that would have them queuing for a food pack aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 cowpat


    Dear god, sounds like Russia in the 90's...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I wonder how many of the 700 are smokers/drinkers......


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