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You won't get into college

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Everyones different, depends how how the pressure is effecting you,

    I personally dont feel parents putting pressure on is a good thing, i think it can make you do the opposite of what their intention is.

    As i said everyone is different putting pressure on may work for one child and not the other, both ways should be respected.


    You have many options if you dont get the course you want, i failed my leaving cert because of difficulties at home, i ended up doing a plc, and fas course and both got me into third level college as a mature student i was 23 at the time, i now have a 2-1 honours degree from a top college, but a sh!t leaving- who would know now?


    As i said everyone learns differently, the pressure you are under could be really effecting you, my advice would be to do your leaving cert as best you can, if its not good you can try again or do some further education, but if your repeating you know the drill and you will probably do better than you think.


    Take the pressure off by seeing there are no failures in life, becoming an adult also means taking control of your own life, dont let your mothers put downs hold you back, follow your dreams, do it your way and best of luck xxxx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    It is only March - get off your ass and apply yourself

    the first thing is to see where you went wrong- in each subject.

    also get the study guides for each subject -Less Stress More Success and put a plan together - you divide the subjects into exam related chunks and decide what you are going to study - this allows you to concentrate on the exam and strip out the parts of the exams you may not answer

    go to town studying your strpped down course

    get lots of paper - i found years ago that writting down stuff in summary makes it sink in and summarize your summaries-itgives cyou loads of practice on exam stuff and makes you quicker

    Now stop mopeing and get studying.

    get lots of chocolate etc for snacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Zangetsu


    These are the words my own Mother uttered too me as she has just seen and heard how poorly I've done in my Mock's , she beleave that I'm just a waste and that I've wasted a whole year repeating for nothing, and that I'll amount to nothing.
    It's really gotten me down, anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks and hearing my mother tell me she doesn't beleave in me has just shot my confidence down to zero, I don't know what to do anymore !!! I need help, I really want to go to college and I want to prove her wrong. What do i need to do!!!

    Do the work and you will... Don't forget that the LC isn't as important as its made out to be... There are many different paths into college. I used a PLC course to get into my degree, worked out perfectly, was ahead of everyone in my year when I joined too...

    My mother used the same encouraging words on me while I was doing the LC, she still says it the odd time, I just tune it out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    These are the words my own Mother uttered too me as she has just seen and heard how poorly I've done in my Mock's , she beleave that I'm just a waste and that I've wasted a whole year repeating for nothing, and that I'll amount to nothing.
    It's really gotten me down, anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks and hearing my mother tell me she doesn't beleave in me has just shot my confidence down to zero, I don't know what to do anymore !!! I need help, I really want to go to college and I want to prove her wrong. What do i need to do!!!


    OK to be honest you sound exactly like my brother:o!!! I guarantee the harsh words your mother has been using are not to put you down. At the end of the day your mother wants the best for you. Think of it this way, she has had to watch you already sit the leaving and probably knows your potential is far greater than what you actually do.

    My brother is naturally is wonderfully intelligent and articulate and it really upsets my parents when they see him on the various social networking sites, bebo/facebook/msn. I have little influence and my advice is met with empty promises of "i'll try".
    He goes out every weekend and sees nothing wrong with this!! Constantly on the phone, mind is distracted and any time he should be studying he is doing something else.

    To be honest I think it is up to you at the end of the day. As previous posters have said, prove your mother wrong. I bet she is genuinely worried for you and wants the best for you. Cut the internet, tell your friends to stop calling and make sure you stick to a study timetable. I always found making time for myself was just as important as study time. The time you have off you should play sport, go for a coffee, listen to music. Avoid computer games/bebo. You will just get more distracted.

    You have only 2 MONTHS until exams!!! Make the most of them!!! Think of why you are studying, not for your mother but for your own future...............

    I bet if your anything like my brother you arent exactly the easiest to live with. Your mother wants the best for you. Make sure you don't prove her theory right. Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭*Honey*


    You can apply untill May as far as I know, although you have to pay extra.

    Not always, some courses are restricted entry and have one deadlind date of 1 February. They usually have other application procedures such as portfolio assessment etc.

    To the OP, I agree that your Mum is probably try to motivate you (not that well to be fair) and you have the time now to do something about proving her wrong! So get off the net reading this and get studying!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Zangetsu wrote: »

    My mother used the same encouraging words on me while I was doing the LC, she still says it the odd time, I just tune it out...

    My son says my ex does the same -Dads are much cooler :)

    Seriously - tell her less of the negative attitude and if she cant say anything positive at least make you a sandwich

    the point of the plan and study guides is to wotrk thru the stuff methodically and practice it - you are studying to do well at the exam on the sections in the exam and not relly to get a deep u7nderstanding of your subject


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    200

    thats not that bad, i got that in the mocks, got 380 in the actual leaving without doing much, failed lc maths and still got into engineering in college. My mother was the exact same, always putting me down, just grow a thick skin and dont listen to her. If it helps focus on the negative parts of her life when shes arguing with you, my mother didnt go to college so that invalidated her opinion in my mind instantly, focus on things like that and it gets better

    just ask yourself :

    did she go to college ?
    did she do well in her leaving cert ?
    how has her life panned out ?

    edit : i do reccomend actually studying though, but to deal with the abuse use my tips above


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    I think what some posters are referring to is the CAO change of mind option, which is coming up soon i think, possibly May and it doesnt cost any extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I think what some posters are referring to is the CAO change of mind option, which is coming up soon i think, possibly May and it doesnt cost any extra.

    Once you've applied in the first place, you can change your mind right up until the 1st of July.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    OP - you will get no study done if you keep on boards and wqill end up as poorly educated as your mother;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭b3t4


    I'll never forget how my chemistry teacher spoke to me when I was in 5th year of school. She basically told me how I would make nothing of my life.

    I was getting a similar vibe from home.

    Oh, and to add to that one, I loaded a huge amount of pressure on top of myself.

    I was an emotional wreck due to home and school. All I needed was someone in my life to be positive and not a single person was.

    Right, so I hope I can be a slice of positively for you.

    The upsides:
    1) You've done this all before (you say you're repeating)
    2) You know what you have to do. (albeit becoming a professional procrastinator at present)
    3) If you get past this LC malarky there is a college degree awaiting you. A degree in something which you really want to study.
    4) It's not too late to turn it all around. Seriously, it isn't, no matter how overwhelming it might seem.

    My education story in a snapshot:
    1) I failed an exam in my moc's (the only exam I've ever failed) and did pretty badly points wise.
    2) Managed the LC and got the points I needed doing pretty ok but definitely not upto what I was capable off. But c'est la vie.
    3) Started my degree and finished with a first class honours degree.

    It's possible and you can do it :)

    Now stop making plans on how you're going to do this studying business and get to it. The best tip I can give you is study the papers. Do as many as you possibly can (over and over and over again) Find patterns in them (there generally always is)

    A.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    b3t4 wrote: »

    Now stop making plans on how you're going to do this studying business and get to it. The best tip I can give you is study the papers. Do as many as you possibly can (over and over and over again) Find patterns in them (there generally always is)

    OP the message is study

    STUDY

    and chemistry teachers are evil:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭miss_shadow


    It's a fact that praise and recognition for the tasks one does is crucial for the progression and consistency of that task (mia pringle theorist) without it,it is an uphill battle regarding the emotional aspect of study/stress so the op needs support, i sure as hell didn't get any support growing up regarding school so i had to support myself,had no option. Your mother seems like she isn't giving you adequate support, have you got older siblings that you can talk to or i suggest you tell your mum how your feeling and how it is upsetting you. I would think it'd be best to ignore her,if she isn't going to put any real positive input. Study classes after school are a great help too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I failed nearly all of my mocks but got 410 points in the LC...

    The mocks are a bad reflection of how you will do in the real thing IMO, but they are good practise for doing exams, learning the format, etc.

    200 points is grand for the mocks if you ask me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭zedhead


    These are the words my own Mother uttered too me as she has just seen and heard how poorly I've done in my Mock's , she beleave that I'm just a waste and that I've wasted a whole year repeating for nothing, and that I'll amount to nothing.
    It's really gotten me down, anytime i try study i constantly procrastinate and do other thinks and hearing my mother tell me she doesn't beleave in me has just shot my confidence down to zero, I don't know what to do anymore !!! I need help, I really want to go to college and I want to prove her wrong. What do i need to do!!!


    My mother did the same thing to me, and you know what i did, i ignored her. It didnt help me! I got just over 250 in my mocks, and went on to get 425 in my leaving. And you know what my mum said when i told her my results "oh, i thought you would have got better" It was only after talking to her friends did she realise she should have congratulated me more. I got a lot more points then my older sister and went on to become te first girl, and second person in my family (aunts uncles cousins etc) since my grandmother to get a degree. Still didnt seem good enough for her. I was the "smart" one so had be brilliant.

    Dont get me wrong i have a very close relationship with my mother, but sometimes she thinks the way to improve someone is to put them down (point out flaws so you'll work on them) she does it about other things too, and i have explained that it hurts, but it is just the way she is.

    Now what i didnt do was ignore her and do no work and just hoped for the best. What you need to look at is that yes your mum does love you and is trying to help, but her putting you down is not what you need to be hearing now, so ignore that part. Focus on the exams, but for yourself and not for you mother. Once you know what you want, and that you are putting in your best effort for yourself to get it. You have loads of time to get the study in, and you just need to get focused for the right reasons!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭ArphaRima


    I thought thats what everyone gets? A massive roasting, a big scare, and then settle into the cram for the leaving cert properly?

    I have to say I failed most of my mocks, as did most of my class, nay year. Then we went on to get some of the best results in Dublin that year out of any school.

    I did feck all study, but plenty of night before cramming! I honestly studied biology once: from one of those revision books the night before. A B3 isnt bad for a few hours work.
    A teacher threatened me with OL French a few times so I studied it. Got an A.
    Another teacher said nobody got A's in HL English. So I did.

    Tough love works!


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