Eddie Stones, Clonfert, County Galway

Pamela111 wrote: »

This man is truly a chosen apostle of God and of Our Lady. He is the real deal.

How do you know this? He could also be an apostal of Satan, who tries to lead Christians from the right path.
As you didn't understand what he was saying, he could have envoked evil spirits rather then the holy ghost.

Or he could just be a charlatan (sp.) who tricked the people with some cheap tricks.

Pamela111 wrote: »

Don't mock. Im not sure what the language is but this is the work of Jesus.

I tell you honestly and truly; anyone who turns to Jesus, no matter what their sins or past life, will not be disappointed.

God Bless you all.

You are right about Jesus being a faithful Saviour.

But who is this man you call an apostle? Zapping you is no proof of the Holy Spirit at work - Hindus and other spiritists perform the same tricks.

Kiffer has good questions. What exactly is your financial relationship to this 'apostle'? Did he ask for donations 'for the work'? Did he heal anyone? If so, did you know them beforehand and are able to attest to their disability?

Pamela, I have seen the 'health & wealth' preachers milk/fleece the sheep, preach heresy and live a luxurious lifestyle. I wouldn't want you to be one of the fleeced.

A good thread about healers is here

I have a few questions.
Is there any documented evidence, with medical before and after checks, of people being healed by him?
If he really can heal people, why is he not going to the next hospital and heals all people in it? That would proove his healing powers and he would help a lot of people.
Is his healing rate better than that of Lourdes which has only a healing success of 0.03% of all sick people going there (very progressive estimate, see exact figures and calculation in thread mentioned above)?
From a Christian point. Why does Jesus needs a medium to do his healing, which is not even a priest (he is Catholic after all)?

Pamela111 wrote: »

Im not sure what Zapping is but this truly good. I also got blessed with Saint Fauntina's relic and the same occurred to me. Also, during the general healing process I felt weak and could feel the same happening to me. He did not have his hands on me. A great peace came over the room at the same time. I seen that in Our Lady of Garbanal's place in the Ukraine this occurs during prayer. :eek:




He heals nobody. Jesus heals them through his hands.

€2 is all I gave and in return I got tea and biscuits.

Thanks for clearing up the finance issue. It seems he is not in it for the money. Looks more like your average charismatic then.

The issue therefore becomes what we make of the healing/tongues/anointing with the Spirit. Is it all:
1. a mixture of psychosomatic healing/psycho-induced babble/psycho-induced ecstacy.

2. a demonic healing/demonic babble/demonic ecstasy.

3. a combination of the above.

4. a genuine Spirit-given healing/tongues/anointing.

5. a combination of 1 & 4.

From your other examples where you had such experiences, I fear it is either 1, 2 or 3. Hopefully just 1.

Pamela, beware of experiences that lead us away from the truth. Such experiences can be powerful, but if they cause us to believe heresy then they are not of God. If they cause you to listen to visions of the dead or worship anyone other than God, they are demonic in origin.

God warns us of such deceiving spirits:
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

I had a friend who had a vision. It was of a man coming to the door of my friend's flat; his face was shining like the sun and he was smiling. It made my friend think ( in his vision) the man was good, a bringer of good news, etc.

Shortly after, when my friend recovered from his visionary state/doze, a knock came to his door. He opened it and there was the man. His face was not shining with the brilliant light, but the big smile was there and the impression given of 'light'.

The visitor was from the Moonies, and my friend invited him in and listened intently to all he said. Thankfully, something made him uncomfortable, despite the persuasive spiel, and he did not become a follower of that cult.

ManFromAtlantis wrote: »

do u mind telling the story ?

I've heard of this guy. He was a normal guy with a wife & five kids. He ran a butcher shop in Clara Co. Offaly. One day he & his wife sat down to watch a DVD on Medjugorje and the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to them. Later on out Lord appeared to Eddie and gave him his mission. He was to give up all the he owned and move to Clonfert to set up a pilgrimage centre. They struggled for many year to get by.

I have been to Clonfert for a good few years now and have gotten to know Eddie and the family well, I have witnessed a lot of spiritual experiences, Its not every day that someone is cured, but there have been cases of arthritis cured, limbs cured and emotional cures. I personally had IBS for years visiting specialists and doctors of all types and that cleared up shortly after I started to visit Clonfert.

Eddie is a man who gave up a thriving family butcher trade and did what was asked of him....

I would really suggest that a lot of you should go and experience it first hand before you carry on with this conversation using references of satan and other off the wall theories..

Húrin wrote: »

wolfsbane, are you convinced that this fellow is probably a charlatan or a demon primarily because he is Catholic? Be honest!

No, from what I have gleaned here about him I think he is deluded rather than demonic. It also seems he is sincere in what he does and not in it for the money - so not a charalatan.

My assessment would apply to most Protestant charismatics too.

I do fear for him when I read that he is doing what he does in response to Marian visions. They are either demonic or psychotic.

Another deluded religious case flying under the radar of the Mental Health act-2001.
Suppose hes doin no harm-if it makes people happy rubbish or not leave them at it! Wudnt waste my time tho!

I've had quite about enough of your low level trolling, Mr P.

rccaulfield, you would be best leave the prognosis to the professionals. No more pejorative posts, please.