Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

rossie1977 wrote: »

Liverpool v Man City banana skin for me, i see city scoring early probably robinho 40 yard freekick or something, and then city parking the bus, 1-1 draw for me. no gerrard, no alonso

Middlesbrough v Liverpool liverpool never seem to win up there, this has 0-0 written all over it

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

I must get to the bookies then. I didn't realise that the previous result had such a bearing on the next game to make them dead cert to drop points.

I'm not saying that Liverpool will win the league. I am saying that Liverpool could be going to Old Trafford looking to take back top spot (all be it with a game in hand). I am saying it ain't over.

It is very possible that Liverpool will pick up 9 points in their next three games. You are saying there is not a chance of this happening and that you would eat your keyboard if it did.

Well I have your post bookmarked and look forward to seeing some pictures of you munching on your keyboard.

i hope you got to the bookies young man, i made you a few bob today, will make you a few more bob next weekend too, don't forget 0-0 liverpool middlesbrough

i usually get flamed on this soccer forum but i am nearly always right (ask the chelsea fans), and no i don't do lottery numbers before you ask, thats a game of chance

predicting liverpool will struggle against the likes of city and boro is a given, surprised people don't see these things

Ardent wrote: »

I should have gone to the bookies too. I called it before xmas that we'd be out of the race by the end of Feb. But it doesn't take a genius to predict this or all the draws against inferior opposition - we've been rubbish for the majority of the season.

Save us the smugness, please. You're insufferable

Ardent wrote: »

Maybe but allow me to LOL at the likes of you who have their heads stuck in the sand re Benitez.

my head isn't stuck in the sand. I can see quite clearly that we have a far inferior squad than United. I don't even think we've the second best squad, yet we are in second. I certainly wouldn't call that under-achieving, so Rafa must be doing something right, even though we can all see he does some things wrong.

whatawaster wrote: »

my head isn't stuck in the sand. I can see quite clearly that we have a far inferior squad than United. I don't even think we've the second best squad, yet we are in second. I certainly wouldn't call that under-achieving, so Rafa must be doing something right, even though we can all see he does some things wrong.

i certainly wouldn't blame everything on rafa, the run man utd are on is history making, i metioned this last week, to finish 2nd to them and stay within single points would be a fine achievement, the latter won't happen now though, utd will win with 15 points at least to spare over us, everyone will call rafa hopeless, public outcry from fans for rafa to be sacked, rafa will be sacked, everyone hoping jose will come in, jose or either inter says no, gary mcallister takes over (ok last bit won't happen but its funny )

coco06 wrote: »

but imagine if he didnt do those small things wrong, we may have picked up more points. i think each year he serves he learns a lot and it stands to him.

I am not sure if you are one of the anti Rafa brigade but I agree with your point.. We are extremely close and it's only very small, but very fixable, mistakes in defence that are the difference between us and United this season.

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

What is your problem actually? Where do you actually think that the club is going wrong?

The club needs a new manager to win the league. Benitez, while being a decent manager, has demonstrated over five seasons a patent inability to adapt to the demands of the Premiership.

I may get my wish before too long, it seems that he has said on Sky Sports that he will leave the club if his contract is not sorted by the end of the season.

Ardent wrote: »

Ah, so now the excuses come out. We now have a far inferior squad to Utd do we? yes, you're right, that's the big difference alright.

Hold on. We don't have an inferior squad to United? Ridiculous comment, for which you deserve widespread mockery

But . . . are you then saying that Rafa has bought THAT well over the last 4 years, and our players are THAT good, but Rafa is just so bad?

whatawaster wrote: »

Hold on. We don't have an inferior squad to United? Ridiculous comment, for which you deserve widespread mockery

But . . . are you then saying that Rafa has bought THAT well over the last 4 years, and our players are THAT good, but Rafa is just so bad?

i think the issue is that we just have a inferior manager. not that its rafas fault.. he seems to be grasping things, but maybe a little slowler than we all want thats all.

whatawaster wrote: »

Hold on. We don't have an inferior squad to United? Ridiculous comment, for which you deserve widespread mockery

But . . . are you then saying that Rafa has bought THAT well over the last 4 years, and our players are THAT good, but Rafa is just so bad?

We have the spine of a great team - Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Mascher, Carra, Skrtel, Agger, Reina. This shít of Benitez not having the team to challenge doesn't wash - even he himself said that this season was the first where he had the team he needed to challenge for the title.

PHB wrote: »

Im sorry, I just don't get this way of defending Benetiz.
People say United have a better squad (I agree with that), but whose fault is that?
Since Benetiz joined Liverpool, United and Liverpool have spent very similar amounts of money.

The blame of United's squad is better than Liverpool is at the foot of Benetiz. Even if he is tactically good enough, he hasn't been good enough in the transfer market. And the excuse that its because of funding we all know is a load of crock.

rubbish imo.

Spent similar amounts, yes, but he started from a much worse base than Ferguson.

I know your rebuttal will be why didn't he buy a 20 million player instead of 3 cheaper players. But Liverpool were under such severe financial pressure (we don't have United's level of revenue) that not getting into the CL any season would have been a disaster. So many holes in the squad had to be filled at a time. We just had no choice. Yes, he's made poor signings, but i don't argue with his strategy in principle. Unfortunately we've often had to settle for second choices (Pennant instead of Alves or Simao)

Just looking over some old results ahead of the Real Madrid game and something came up that should cheer you lot up. Liverpool are more clinical in the European cup as regards holding one's nerve I suppose you could call it or when the going gets tough. Liverpool have been in 9 European cup semi-finals and gone on to win the tournament 5 times whereas Real Madrid have been in 21 semi-finals yet only managed to go on and win 9 tournaments. Maybe it doesnt mean much but out of all the teams in europe Liverpool boast the best record as regards semi-finals reached and tournaments won in the European cup. This was probably a complete waste of time but considering I spent 20mins looking it up I decided to share.

mike65 wrote: »

I have to agree with Ardent in terms of Rafas buying "nouse", Kuyt is alright but if we had a proper right winger would anyone pick Dirk ahead if him? Doubtful. Babel is rapidly dissapearing from view - would be suprised if he is still at the club next season. Agger too unfortunatly but for different reasons. Dossena is just not good, every now and again you think he might be coming right but then he shows why Insua/Aurelio should start. I really doubt Lucas will make it, he does have some talent but I just think he's made for Spain or Italy not the EPL.

I agree, however im not going to criticise babel on playing another 10 mins. He should not have to come on and perform a miracle every week to save the blushes of other members of the team who are impotent for 80 mins. Insua was plenty good enough to play this season and not bother with spending money on that italian sausagemeat.

It would also be naive to not put any blame at benitez door. I dont think barry would make any difference to our squad at all apart from lucas not being able to get a game. We are crying out for creativity (iniesta/xavi) type player, someone who plays midfield but likes to appear in the box. Negative starting formations and ridgid tactics are benitez overwhelming strategy. Easy to defend against and the amount of draws and lack of 2 goal winning margins are plenty proof enough of this for a team who is second in the league. I get a desperate feeling that our optimism going into xmas was more down to a misfiring chelsea and arsenal than amazing form on our part.