Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 04-02-2009 05:03PM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

And I highly doubt Arshavin will bring you that. Gonna get it straight off that I am an ABA man (Anybody but Arsenal) hence why I have never posted in here. But just thought I would come in and diss Arshavin a bit .
To people saying he see's him as another Pires role, their is not a hope he will be like that. Arshavin doesn't have the work rate to do it. He will not score as many as Pires either, Arshavin is a striker/Attacking midfielder yet he never scored more than 10 goals in a season bar once. Add to that the fact he is 27/8 so can't afford a season or 2 to settle in and needs to hit the ground running. Realisticaly (I know Wenger has been after him for longer) but he is only really known for a good Euro 2008 (Which Iwould also like to add he only played 3 games in, but in fairness he got MOTM in 2) .
I think he will be very injury prone as well especially in his 1st season. Also I don't know why but I really can't see him and RVP getting along all too well as both are practically the same player and both are set piece speciallists (I think) I would not be surprised to see the 2 arguing.

Well that's my take on it, so feel free to discuss/applaud/chase me out of town with flaming torches .

You're clearly just talking out of your hoop on the chance that any of this comes through and you can come back to gloat.

One point i'm gonna pick up on to illustrate my point is the injury prone thing. Every year for the past ten years he has played in no less than 27 games in the Russian league(which consists of 30 games a season). Now your entitled to your opinions and all, but you're clearly just guessing.

Myself, I watched him in the UEFA cup last year when someone on here(think it was Estie) kept mentioning him. And then of course the Euros. I personally think he's a class act and should be able to do very well in a team like Arsenal. I also trust that Wenger will have scouted him out thoroughly before buying him, so even if most regular fans dont know too much about him then you can bve assured Wenger does.

Reganio 2 · 04-02-2009 05:18PM

jasonorr wrote: »

Really? Who do you support so?

I am a Liverpool man.

Evil_Clown wrote: »

So you are a Doctor

And a phsycologist

I'm impressed !!

Thanks took me a while to achieve

Galvasean wrote: »

Any particular reason for that?

Just hatred of everything you do. Wenger, Fabregas, Bendtner, Gallas, Almunia etc. I could go on but you get the idea. The only play I actually kind of like is Samir Nasri.

enfant terrible wrote: »

According to wikipedia Pires scored 6 goals in 66 games the two seasons before we bought him from Marseille.

Arshavin scored 16 goals in 57 games in his last two seasons for Zenit.

In the Uefa cup run of 2007 he scored 4 goals in 14 games and got 10 assists in the 14 games.

I think he has the potential to score as many as Pires.

I didn't know that, fair play with the stats. Will be interesting to see if he can get anywhere near Pires's form at Arsenal.

playa3 wrote: »

You're clearly just talking out of your hoop on the chance that any of this comes through and you can come back to gloat.

One point i'm gonna pick up on to illustrate my point is the injury prone thing. Every year for the past ten years he has played in no less than 27 games in the Russian league(which consists of 30 games a season). Now your entitled to your opinions and all, but you're clearly just guessing.

Myself, I watched him in the UEFA cup last year when someone on here(think it was Estie) kept mentioning him. And then of course the Euros. I personally think he's a class act and should be able to do very well in a team like Arsenal. I also trust that Wenger will have scouted him out thoroughly before buying him, so even if most regular fans dont know too much about him then you can bve assured Wenger does.

The reason I say the injury thing is that he isn't the biggest guy in the world, I don't know how tough the Russian league is but a skillful player like Arshavin usually struggles when the kicks start coming in especially in their 1st season. Believe me I am not the type of person to gloat about getting something right as its all just guesswork in all honesty I say that as I believe it but he could become player of the year, as anything can happen, I just believe that what I said will happen.
Believe me you will not see me in here gloating if it does come true

L'prof · 04-02-2009 05:41PM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

I am a Liverpool man.

Strange one that, I don't think I've ever heard a Liverpool man saying they hated Arsenal or vise versa, whatever you're into! You could have had a little subtlety though and just put your point across without mentioning that...you might actually get a proper response!

Reganio 2 · 04-02-2009 05:45PM

True, I know I am one of the very few people I know that I don't really like Arsenal, most love them for their style of football. I probably shouldn't have put it in my 1st post in fairness.

yahoo_moe · 04-02-2009 05:53PM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

its all just guesswork in all honesty

Thanks for clearing that up - I thought you had a crystal ball there for a sec.

mayordenis · 04-02-2009 06:19PM

lol aye there's not a huge amount of arsenal angst amongst pool fans, I look at it 2 ways if we had of the league the year with thomas and the late goal we may not have suffered as we have since then, on the other hand if it was not for arsenal (and to an extent chelsea) over the last few years Man Utd would have taken Pool League record by now.
Add to that Arsenal have played the best football in england (close top being in the world) for a number of years (prety much since Arsene's first day in charge) and that ye don't splash the cash all over the place have fairly strict policies on youth development, wages, and general fiscal ****e.
5 thumbs up.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 04-02-2009 06:50PM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Just hatred of everything you do. Wenger, Fabregas, Bendtner, Gallas, Almunia etc. I could go on but you get the idea. The only play I actually kind of like is Samir Nasri.

I can understand why you might not like a few of the players but how could you possibly hate Sagna? Or walcott for that matter

Reganio 2 wrote: »

The reason I say the injury thing is that he isn't the biggest guy in the world, I don't know how tough the Russian league is but a skillful player like Arshavin usually struggles when the kicks start coming in especially in their 1st season. Believe me I am not the type of person to gloat about getting something right as its all just guesswork in all honesty I say that as I believe it but he could become player of the year, as anything can happen, I just believe that what I said will happen.
Believe me you will not see me in here gloating if it does come true

Alright fair enough if thats what you believe. One player i would point to though would be Robinho. He's small and he hasn't done too bad for himself!:pac:

Royale with Cheese · 04-02-2009 06:53PM

playa3 wrote: »

I can understand why you might not like a few of the players but how could you possibly hate Sagna? Or walcott for that matter

Sagna has stupid hair and Walcott was slightly the victim of the England hype machine before he got injured when he scored that hat trick against Croatia.

Frisbee · 04-02-2009 06:54PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Sagna has stupid hair

You take that back right now!

:pac:

Royale with Cheese · 04-02-2009 06:57PM

Frisbee wrote: »

You take that back right now!

:pac:

Ha. Sagna's hair doesn't bother me, just the only reason I could think for anybody to hate him.

Frisbee · 04-02-2009 06:59PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Ha. Sagna's hair doesn't bother me, just the only reason I could think for anybody to hate him.

Damn straight it doesn't.

OPENROAD · 04-02-2009 07:03PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Walcott was slightly the victim of the England hype machine before he got injured when he scored that hat trick against Croatia.

But every country hypes up their players teams imo.

Royale with Cheese · 04-02-2009 07:06PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

But every country hypes up their players teams imo.

Once again, just the only reason I could think of for anybody to hate Walcott. He's very well spoken and has his head screwed on, he's like the anti English footballer.

I've never heard of anybody even disliking either of those players, nevermind hating them. Almunia? Does anybody care enough about him to hate him? Maybe it's the hair again. Very few people dislike Fabregas. Bendtner, Gallas. Fair enough.

OPENROAD · 04-02-2009 07:13PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Once again, just the only reason I could think of for anybody to hate Walcott.
I've never heard of anybody even disliking either of those players, nevermind hating them. Almunia? Does anybody care enough about him to hate him? Maybe it's the hair again. Very few people dislike Fabregas. Bendtner, Gallas. Fair enough.

True. Saw an interview with Walcotts dad, was very impressed with how he came across, very well spoken and any interview I have seen with Theo has been the same.

keane2097 · 04-02-2009 07:28PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Once again, just the only reason I could think of for anybody to hate Walcott. He's very well spoken and has his head screwed on, he's like the anti English footballer.

I've never heard of anybody even disliking either of those players, nevermind hating them. Almunia? Does anybody care enough about him to hate him? Maybe it's the hair again. Very few people dislike Fabregas. Bendtner, Gallas. Fair enough.

:eek::eek::eek:

All the rest fair enough, but Gallas is the ultimate in modern hatable man technology imo.

Pepe LeFrits · 04-02-2009 07:30PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

According to wikipedia Pires scored 6 goals in 66 games the two seasons before we bought him from Marseille.

Arshavin scored 16 goals in 57 games in his last two seasons for Zenit.

In the Uefa cup run of 2007 he scored 4 goals in 14 games and got 10 assists in the 14 games.

I think he has the potential to score as many as Pires.

Similarly, Nasri scored 11 in 121 league games at Marseilles, but has 5 in 17 at Arsenal.

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Very few people dislike Fabregas.

He's petulant. Or at least, that's generally how the people who don't like him reason it. Like the way Alonso is a cheat with no sense of fair play because he didn't kick the ball out of play a few years ago.

(Alonso is a class act, btw).

keane2097 wrote: »

:eek::eek::eek:

All the rest fair enough, but Gallas is the ultimate in modern hatable man technology imo.

I think you've misunderstood his post a bit!

Kirnsy · 04-02-2009 11:39PM

its going to be interesting to see what sort of line - up wenger will field with a full team to choose from:

my choice:

al
back four

song

arshavin fab nasri

rvp ade

but then we miss out on rosicky(if he makes it back!) eduardo theo and vela

enfant terrible · 04-02-2009 11:48PM

I think Wenger will stick with his preferred 4-4-2

Almunia

Sanga Gallas Djourou Clichy

Arshavin Fabregas Denilson Nasri

Van Persie Adebayor

With Walcott and Rosicky(if ever fit) to fight for the wing positions

and Eduardo and Bendtner to fight for the forward positions

shano_88 · 04-02-2009 11:59PM

almunia

-sagna---toure---djourou---clichy---

-walcott--fabregas--denilson-nasri--

van persie--arshavin

honestly, i prefer this. Not much aerial ability in the team but its quick and creative. Adebayor has been so poor this year maybe being dropped for a while isnt a bad thing. There is alot of competition for all the places really. Im really happy with the team and the squad!!!

Sútalún · 05-02-2009 12:10AM

To be honest I think Walcott deserves a starting berth when he returns from injury and to full fitness. He was our best if not one of our best performers before he got injured. Presuming/hoping he retains this form when he returns I think Wenger needs to find a way to accomadate Nasri, Walcott and Arshavin.

To me at least, the answer is simple. Although his situation may have changed when Theo returns I think Adebayor should be dropped due to his awful form. And Theo should be played up front. With Nasri and Andy on the wings. I think Theo and VP could form a very good partnership up front. Like someone said dropping Ade doesn't leave us with much of an aerial threat. However Ade would be on the bench to come on and add this if it was needed. This would also mean having 3 forwards not starting in Ade, Edu and Bendtner. Unfortunately for him Bendtner may not thus be guaranteed a place on the bench.

In some situations Walcott could even swap with Andy during a game. With Arshavin obviously dropping deeper in an central attacking mf role, just behind VP.

What think yee????

tony1kenobi · 05-02-2009 12:12AM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

True, I know I am one of the very few people I know that I don't really like Arsenal, most love them for their style of football. I probably shouldn't have put it in my 1st post in fairness.

You don't like Arsenal because the 'Pool have been sh1te for 20 years and Arsenal haven't. If I had to guess I'd say you were born around the time Michael Thomas scored that sweet, sweet goal........or maybe Smudgers in the first half...that he did score....no matter how much Hansen,Whelan and them other tinkers protested.

Either way your dislike of Arsenal just makes us stronger.

Frisbee · 05-02-2009 12:15AM

Dunno where Arshavin will fit in, next season is when the push needs to be made. Really doubt we'll get the best out of Arshavin this season.
Then buy a decent strong CM in summer to partner Cesc

tony1kenobi wrote: »

You don't like Arsenal because the 'Pool have been sh1te for 20 years and Arsenal haven't. If I had to guess I'd say you were born around the time Michael Thomas scored that sweet, sweet goal........or maybe Smudgers in the first half...that he did score....no matter how much Hansen,Whelan and them other tinkers protested.

Either way your dislike of Arsenal just makes us stronger.

Dude, he hasn't been rude or abrasive to us, so no need to do it to him.

05-02-2009 12:17AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Ade gets sold this year. Think Bentner might head off as well.

Reganio 2 · 05-02-2009 12:19AM

Actually I quite like Walcott, one of 2 players I can put up with on the Arsenal team.

tony1kenobi wrote: »

You don't like Arsenal because the 'Pool have been sh1te for 20 years and Arsenal haven't. If I had to guess I'd say you were born around the time Michael Thomas scored that sweet, sweet goal........or maybe Smudgers in the first half...that he did score....no matter how much Hansen,Whelan and them other tinkers protested.

Either way your dislike of Arsenal just makes us stronger.

I was born in 89, it has nothing to do with Arsenal being "better" than Liverpool. Its just general hatred it might have got a lot worse around 01 actually when we beat you in the FA Cup

thanks to Micheal Owen and Ljungberg and Wenger came out saying the better team lost and general bitching, that was when they over took United as my most hated club, although I did hate them before that so I don't know.

Actually have respect for you Arsenal fans on here as if I posted this on any other team thread it would have been "Oh your a noob" "Your just jealous cause we beat you in 190splash" Fair play to ye.

shano_88 · 05-02-2009 12:27AM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Its just general hatred it might have got a lot worse around 01 actually when we beat you in the FA Cup thanks to Micheal Owen and Ljungberg and Wenger came out saying the better team lost and general bitching,.

But we were the better team by a mile on the day. Il never forget how many chances we missed that day.

Indie18 · 05-02-2009 09:21AM

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Its just general hatred it might have got a lot worse around 01 actually when we beat you in the FA Cup thanks to Micheal Owen .

Is that the same FA Cup final that Liverpool cheated to win.:D

I seem to remember a great save at the post by Stefan Hancho in that game.

jank · 05-02-2009 09:44AM

True that was such a game to throw away. A pool fan that hates Arsenal more than United isnt a Pool fan IMO.

Reganio 2 · 05-02-2009 12:54PM

jank wrote: »

True that was such a game to throw away. A pool fan that hates Arsenal more than United isnt a Pool fan IMO.

Why? Why should I hate a team just cause everybody else does? I have my own opinions.

And yes Indie18 yes it would be that game

Gangsta · 05-02-2009 03:52PM

The rivalry and history between the clubs. That's why.

Galvasean · 05-02-2009 03:53PM

Ah well, our players don't beat people up in nightclubs. :P

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