Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

GuanYin · 25-01-2009 10:58PM

Mgoraf wrote: »

Anyone heard of him?

No, which makes me believe the rumor

Mgoraf · 25-01-2009 11:37PM

GuanYin wrote: »

No, which makes me believe the rumor

The fact he's young and French helps too

Evil_Clown · 26-01-2009 11:51AM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I wonder will Eduardo make an appearance in the Cardiff replay?

iirc wenger said that Eduardo would return to the 1st team squad after one more reserve game but the next res game I see is against the spuds on the 9th Feb so that would rule him out of the cardiff game.
But seeing as there is a bit of a fixture pile up Wenger might change his mind

Royale with Cheese · 26-01-2009 01:21PM

Rosicky back in training apparently.

Frisbee · 26-01-2009 01:33PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Rosicky back in training apparently.

Who?

gosplan · 26-01-2009 04:42PM

Quite hopeful about the Arshavin deal at the moment.

I know we're pretty hard negotiators so it's not surprising that there have been some up's and down's and the occasional 'right, the deal's off'.

It's looking like there's some agreement but the main two things that will swing it for us are that no one else seems to want him at the moment and Zenit have already replaced him.

Also, after yesterday's game, any thought that we don't need another person who can break down defences has left my mind.

Royale with Cheese · 26-01-2009 10:15PM

From the Sun (yes I know, the Sun sucks)

ARSENAL's move for Andrei Arshavin could collapse over his "excessive" wage demands, it emerged tonight.

The Gunners today agreed a £14million deal for the striker after protracted negotiations.

But Zenit St Petersburg then accused their own star of jeopardising the move by demanding a £3.5m salary AFTER tax.

Sources at Zenit said the two clubs had agreed a transfer fee which "reflects the real market value" of the player. This is at least £4m higher than Arsenal's original offer.

But a statement by the club tonight said: "At the moment the only obstacle to the deal is the personal demands of Andrei Arshavin."

The hitman already earns around £100,000-a-week at Zenit.

And Arsenal have made it clear they are not prepared to match that.

They have told Arshavin he would have to take a £20,000-a-week cut to join.

The Russian club claim his salary demand - said to amount to £7m-a-year before tax - is so high "that Arsenal is not prepared to pay".

The only way of saving the deal is if the transfer fee is reduced, Russian sources said.

Zenit will only do this if the player himself pays back £2.5m of an upfront signing on fee he obtained on joining Zenit on a four year deal in 2006.

"The move to Arsenal is on a knife-edge," a Russian source said tonight.

"Unless someone gives way, it looks doomed.

"Arsenal and Zenit agree, so it's now up to Arshavin to prove he wants to play for Arsenal by reducing his excessive pay demands in the middle of a financial crisis."

There's also an article about it on Zenit's website.

That's a direct translation version. The same article does not appear on the English version of the site.

bigstar · 26-01-2009 10:51PM

he seems a bit of a bogey, not wenger type player. i know he looks class but maybe a bit of a bad apple

Pepe LeFrits · 26-01-2009 11:04PM

This news about Arshavin's contract demands is very much at odds with everything else we've heard about this story up to this point - seems likely to me that Zenit are playing games, presumeably to make Arshavin look bad and sour his relationship (further) with the Zenit fans, thus saving face for the board.

Though as long as we get him, I don't really care.

Galvasean · 26-01-2009 11:43PM

As long as we get him and he does well for us I don't care.

Pesonally I think Zenith are playing games. They did it before when other clubs were trying to buy him.

Arsenal1986 · 27-01-2009 01:32PM

Bolton are apparently negotiating with sporting for lisbon!why oh why are we not in for him if they are willing to sell surely hed come to us rather than bolton?!!?!?!

SlickRic · 27-01-2009 01:37PM

yeah losing out to veloso would be absolutely criminal

27-01-2009 01:50PM

Arsenal1986 wrote: »

Bolton are apparently negotiating with sporting for lisbon!

jesus i thought man city's spending was unbelievable, bolton are going to buy the bloody capital of portugal!!! lol!!:P

premierstone · 27-01-2009 01:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

jesus i thought man city's spending was unbelievable, bolton are going to buy the bloody capital of portugal!!! lol!!:P

Thats why Wenger has spent jacksh*t for the past 10 years he's been planing this for a while ''IN ARSENE WE TRUST''

Mgoraf · 27-01-2009 01:54PM

Arsenal deny they have a deal in place with Zenit for Arshavin.

Evil_Clown · 27-01-2009 01:55PM

Arsenal1986 wrote: »

Bolton are apparently negotiating with sporting for lisbon!why oh why are we not in for him if they are willing to sell surely hed come to us rather than bolton?!!?!?!

This is from BBC:

'Bolton have opened talks with Sporting Lisbon about signing midfielder Miguel Veloso, but the player's agent says several other clubs are interested.'

*clutches a straw*
Maybe Arsenal are one of the several other clubs interested, €12 mil is a managable price for us (unless Man City bid €48mil and Jupiter)

~Rebel~ · 27-01-2009 02:04PM

Arsenal1986 wrote: »

Bolton are apparently negotiating with sporting for lisbon!why oh why are we not in for him if they are willing to sell surely hed come to us rather than bolton?!!?!?!

Its a nice place, not sure how good the capital of portugal will be on the football pitch though...

Veloso on the other hand, good player - you guys should bid for him.

leninbenjamin · 27-01-2009 02:15PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Veloso on the other hand, good player - you guys should bid for him.

Arsenal fans have been saying that since it became obvious Flamini wanted to leave, if not before. Veloso is probably the only name you could mention where you find a single soul will disagree with you. except Wenger obviously.

Frisbee · 27-01-2009 02:15PM

I swear to God if Bolton get Veloso ahead of us because Arsene didn't put in an offer 'In Arsene I'll be trusting a little less"

Mgoraf · 27-01-2009 02:19PM

Surely if he was that good a top club would have mad an offer? They must have had a look at him and didn't think he was good enough?

Frisbee · 27-01-2009 02:21PM

Mgoraf wrote: »

Surely if he was that good a top club would have mad an offer? They must have had a look at him and didn't think he was good enough?

United and Arsenal have both been prowling around him for a number of years.
We haven't really needed another player in that position until this year.

I would much rather scrap the Arshavin deal and get Veloso. He's fit in so well with our game aswell, great passer of the ball and keeps the game moving fluidly.
Him and Fabregas in the centre would be sex....

Mgoraf · 27-01-2009 02:26PM

Yeh they've been sniffing around for a while, but still no bid for him. Seems they aint all that convinced to me.

And Wenger is usually right on transfers too....

Frisbee · 27-01-2009 02:32PM

I'd still rather see Veloso in an Arsenal jersey next month than Arshavin.

Song Shows glimpses and Denilson is a hard woker, but Veloso is the quality DM which we so sorely need...

Mgoraf · 27-01-2009 02:36PM

Where will Arshavin fit in d'ya think? Take Walcott's place on the RW?

Do you rate Denilson btw? Seen him get alot of mixed reviews, but just mainly Arsenal fans rating him

Frisbee · 27-01-2009 02:41PM

Mgoraf wrote: »

Where will Arshavin fit in d'ya think? Take Walcott's place on the RW?

Do you rate Denilson btw? Seen him get alot of mixed reviews, but just mainly Arsenal fans rating him

I've no idea what Arsene plans on doing with him. Maybe rotate with Nasri and Walcott, or play behind the front man.
Playing him in the middle would be too big a risk as our CM would be so soft then. Or even him on the left and Nasri through the middle would be the same.

Denilson has potential to be good. He's been one of our more consistent performers this year but I still believe he's not good enough to be a starting player for a Premier League club with aspirations of Champions League football.

Quazzie · 27-01-2009 02:57PM

Frisbee wrote: »

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Playing him in the middle would be too big a risk as our CM would be so soft then.

I think it could work with Arshavin centre and fab a tad more defensive. With fab staying back and playing balls through Arshavin I think this could be a good combination. It would however require a good consistent centre back pairing

Frisbee · 27-01-2009 03:01PM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

I think it could work with Arshavin centre and fab a tad more defensive. With fab staying back and playing balls through Arshavin I think this could be a good combination. It would however require a good consistent centre back pairing

This would require adapting Fab to what I like to refer to as 'The Alonso Role'.
I'd rather not do that mid season after coming back from a big injury as it will unsettle him further.
Maybe that's what Wenger has in mind but if it is our midfield is still faaaar too soft as Fab isn't the best defensively.
We need an enforcer in there.

Wreck · 27-01-2009 04:42PM

From the BBC transfer gossip column

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has played down reports that the Gunners are close to buying Zeint St Petersburg striker Andrei Arshavin. He said: "There's no news about Arshavin. It's all quiet." (Goal.com 1520 GMT)

Starting to seem more and more likely that we won't be signing him.

I'd be amazed if Bolton can afford 12 million for Veloso, and I don't think we should spend that much either.

Bounty Hunter · 27-01-2009 04:55PM

have their been any hints of Arsenal targets apart from Arshavin? if he doesent sign surely you guys will get someone else, yes?

Quazzie · 27-01-2009 04:56PM

I don't think so. Me thinks Arshavin is gone back to Ruski with all our eggs in his basket

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