RTE THREE

swimgal08 · 18-01-2009 02:09PM #1

SOUNDS WEIRD I KNOW BUT IS TRUE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_Three

decob · 18-01-2009 02:16PM

"The new channel will air a variety of programming not currently being shown on RTÉ One and RTÉ Two as well as having access to the RTÉ archives,"

Given some of the crap that they currently show i'd be interested to see what this 'variety of programming' is. So it'll be repeats of Glenroe and Where in the world mixed with the likes of Celebrity Street Cleaner....

Shanegggg · 18-01-2009 02:39PM

Just saw this aswell on wikipedia:

RTE HD

Coming in the "very near future"!! Can't wait to see pat and tubridy in all HD has to offer.

chikuu · 18-01-2009 02:45PM

Shanegggg wrote: »

Can't wait to see pat and tubridy in all HD has to offer.

Oh god, pat kenny's finger pointing in crystal clear HD, perish the thought!

swimgal08 · 18-01-2009 03:26PM

Shanegggg wrote: »

Just saw this aswell on wikipedia:

RTE HD

Coming in the "very near future"!! Can't wait to see pat and tubridy in all HD has to offer.

so much for RTE ONE +1 BEINGING LAUNCHED on the 1st of january ??

icdg · 18-01-2009 03:34PM

RTÉ Three is very much unlikely to happen in the current climate. As I said before that Wikipedia article is based on one Sunday Business Post article in which the RTÉ financial controller, Conor Hayes, spoke about some very tenative plans to launch a new channel. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article put two and two together to make ten and turned comments about tenative plans into an "official announcement".

Just like the proposals for a 3Expose and 3Today (neither of which are ever going to happen, the first being displaced by 3e, the rebranded Channel 6, while I'll believe that an organisation that thinks that no news happens between 6:00pm on a Friday and 5:30pm on a Monday will put together a news channel when I see it) became "official announcements" in the eyes of certain Wikipedia editors.

The moral of the story - nothing is ever officially announced until a press release, on headed paper, says that it is...

Oh, and this thread belongs in Broadcasting.

swimgal08 · 18-01-2009 04:32PM

icdg wrote: »

RTÉ Three is very much unlikely to happen in the current climate. As I said before that Wikipedia article is based on one Sunday Business Post article in which the RTÉ financial controller, Conor Hayes, spoke about some very tenative plans to launch a new channel. Whoever wrote the Wikipedia article put two and two together to make ten and turned comments about tenative plans into an "official announcement".

Just like the proposals for a 3Expose and 3Today (neither of which are ever going to happen, the first being displaced by 3e, the rebranded Channel 6, while I'll believe that an organisation that thinks that no news happens between 6:00pm on a Friday and 5:30pm on a Monday will put together a news channel when I see it) became "official announcements" in the eyes of certain Wikipedia editors.

The moral of the story - nothing is ever officially announced until a press release, on headed paper, says that it is...

Oh, and this thread belongs in Broadcasting.

god your so pessimistic

Rick_ · 18-01-2009 04:39PM

I love the post someone has made about RTÉ ONE +1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_One#RT.C3.89_One_.2B1

BuffyBot · 18-01-2009 06:04PM

swimgal08 wrote: »

SOUNDS WEIRD I KNOW BUT IS TRUE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_Three

Being on Wikipedia doesn't automatically make it true..

watty · 18-01-2009 06:34PM

We need better content, not more channels as anyone familar with Pre-Multichannel UK TV knows.

HD adds very little to the viewing experience except for 2.35:1 or wider cinematic content. Especially on the lower end HD screens.

I remember the jump from 405 Line mono with 10kHz AM sound to 625 Colour with 15kHz FM sound. I had a 405 TV in my bedroom (BBC1 & UTV) compared with BBC1, UTV, BBC2 Colour in Living room. The HD is only compelling in my experience for decent films on a 48"+ screen. Who needs the News/Teletubbies/Coronation St, Weakest Link etc in HD?

Even most WS for TV, never mind HD is shot in safe frame for 4:3 and will be for sometime resulting in very little value for WS (lack of compelling genuine panoramic content) or HD (lack of wider angle shot, too much midrange/closeup shot). Only material shot with high production values for Cinema screen thus is compelling to have in WS or HD (HD is ALWAYS WS).

swimgal08 · 18-01-2009 06:53PM

Paddy C wrote: »

I love the post someone has made about RTÉ ONE +1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT%C3%89_One#RT.C3.89_One_.2B1

cough

copacetic · 18-01-2009 07:00PM

watty wrote: »

We need better content, not more channels as anyone familar with Pre-Multichannel UK TV knows.

HD adds very little to the viewing experience except for 2.35:1 or wider cinematic content. Especially on the lower end HD screens.

I remember the jump from 405 Line mono with 10kHz AM sound to 625 Colour with 15kHz FM sound. I had a 405 TV in my bedroom (BBC1 & UTV) compared with BBC1, UTV, BBC2 Colour in Living room. The HD is only compelling in my experience for decent films on a 48"+ screen. Who needs the News/Teletubbies/Coronation St, Weakest Link etc in HD?

Even most WS for TV, never mind HD is shot in safe frame for 4:3 and will be for sometime resulting in very little value for WS (lack of compelling genuine panoramic content) or HD (lack of wider angle shot, too much midrange/closeup shot). Only material shot with high production values for Cinema screen thus is compelling to have in WS or HD (HD is ALWAYS WS).

HD makes a massive difference to sports events. Free HD content is driving a lot of the take up of Freesat in the UK.

swimgal08 · 18-01-2009 07:14PM

copacetic wrote: »

HD makes a massive difference to sports events. Free HD content is driving a lot of the take up of Freesat in the UK.

It would be class to watch gaelic and hurlling matches in hd :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Rick_ · 18-01-2009 09:56PM

watty wrote: »

HD adds very little to the viewing experience except for 2.35:1 or wider cinematic content.

Seeing as ITV don't even show content in 2.35:1 in HD and crop it, what's to say RTÉ won't do the same?

Mossy Monk · 18-01-2009 10:22PM

ITV is run by idiots.

afatbollix · 18-01-2009 10:48PM

what makes you think rte isent run by monkys eather..

icdg · 18-01-2009 11:30PM

swimgal08 wrote: »

god your so pessimistic

Must be that recession thing

Which is the reason RTE3 will not be hapening anytime soon...

Elmo · 19-01-2009 12:13AM

watty wrote: »

We need better content, not more channels as anyone familar with Pre-Multichannel UK TV knows.

This is very true. Choice is not given by repeats of Emmerdale, Fair City, Coronation Street. But by providing quality competing programming to your audience.

I know I have posted this already, but I think it runs true.

Also this is an interesting read: -

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/80540/TV-faces-massive-shake-up

Elmo · 19-01-2009 12:18AM

Just an Idea for the cash strapped PBS broadcasters i.e. TG4 and RTÉ

Give OTV to RTÉ call it RTÉ News and IFB Channel to TG4 call it Scannán 4.

Then think about extra channels.

watty · 19-01-2009 12:21AM

copacetic wrote: »

HD makes a massive difference to sports events. Free HD content is driving a lot of the take up of Freesat in the UK.

I'm sceptical about that claim given HOW MANY hours a week HD sport FTA is on Satellite?

You know all the action is kept in 4:3 non HD safe area and zoomed in enough for SD?

It would want to be a feed for HD only (i.e. not zoomed in so much and no 4:3 safe area) and on 48" or bigger screen for Sport to be much different.

Any research figures?

Koloman · 20-01-2009 09:37PM

Shanegggg wrote: »

Just saw this aswell on wikipedia:

RTE HD

Coming in the "very near future"!! Can't wait to see pat and tubridy in all HD has to offer.

MY eyes, my eyes! They hurt so much! Please no Pat Kenny in HD!

medoc · 27-01-2009 08:34PM

Hi all,

Could it not be done sort of cheaply. RTE have a few series on late at night on RTE1 and 2 eg Dirty sexy money, Ghost whisperer and Im sure a few more I cant think of right now. These should be on at or near primetime. If they already have rights to these it should cost not much to show on RTE3. Lost and ER etc. could be repeated on another night. A Schedule from 7 or 8 in the evening till mid night for example could be a start (along the lines of bbc3). With archive material and the sports schedule clashes that can occur a nice simple channel could be created. Carraige on RTE's MUX on DTT would also not be a huge extra cost for rte. DSAT could be ignored to save costs.

deadhead13 · 27-01-2009 08:39PM

Wouldn't RTE be better off putting the money into improving the programming on the other two channels. Or perhaps, reducing the licence fee.

medoc · 27-01-2009 09:24PM

deadhead13 wrote: »

Wouldn't RTE be better off putting the money into improving the programming on the other two channels. Or perhaps, reducing the licence fee.

Good point but there is practally no chance of a licence fee reduction. The fact that RTE show these programms late at night already, would it not be better to viewers to give them the chance of seeing them in primetime. Would it cost much to set up and run on DTT only seen as the costs are already to be met for 1 and 2. The amount of saved money that could be put in to improving the other two channels would be less benifit to the viewers than an extra RTE channel on DTT.

Elmo · 28-01-2009 12:07AM

medoc wrote: »

Good point but there is practally no chance of a licence fee reduction. The fact that RTE show these programms late at night already, would it not be better to viewers to give them the chance of seeing them in primetime. Would it cost much to set up and run on DTT only seen as the costs are already to be met for 1 and 2. The amount of saved money that could be put in to improving the other two channels would be less benifit to the viewers than an extra RTE channel on DTT.

RTE could continue to invest in the types of programming currently available on RTE ONE and TWO if it went for RTE THREE AND FOUR.

RTE THREE would focus its Prime time schedule on the set of imported shows currently on RTE ONE AND TWO at 1am, RTE ONE AND TWO could repeat these shows late night while RTE THREE could repeat a selection of RTE ONE and TWO prime time shows late night. (7pm - 1am)

AND

RTE FOUR would focus on repeats of old archive material and classic movies during prime time, repeats of RTE TWO and ONE primetime documentaries late night. (7pm - 1am)

Both could provide extra hours for Den Tots and The Den. RTE TWO early morning and afternoon could become TTV.

This would not cost any more the RTE ONE +1 (waste of space) and the proposed RTE THREE.

Both THREE and FOUR should not use license fee money, since they mainly consist of repeats. This would provide choice and complementary viewing for RTE viewers.

Please note that RTÉ buy repeat right with all imported shows.

I wait of the back lash from the Idea once again

Apogee · 28-01-2009 10:37PM

A single, even part time, HD channel with GAA and soccer coverage would probably do more for the uptake of DTT than RTÉ3, RTÉ4, RTÉwhatever combined. Meanwhile the BCI hands over 3 muxes to Boxer for their overpriced schlock.

watty · 28-01-2009 11:25PM

As far as BCI is concerned the Muxes were in the window "For Sale" nearly 7 years. They are delighted to have ANYONE signup

I'm begining to wonder though if it will happen.

Elmo · 29-01-2009 12:13AM

Apogee wrote: »

A single, even part time, HD channel with GAA and soccer coverage would probably do more for the uptake of DTT than RTÉ3, RTÉ4, RTÉwhatever combined. Meanwhile the BCI hands over 3 muxes to Boxer for their overpriced schlock.

I give up! maybe.

Let me also say this one more time. Sorry for the caps.

REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY CHANNELS, REGARDLESS OF HD, REGARDLESS OF BOXER. DTT MUST BE HAPPEN REGARDLESS.

SO WHATS ON DTT WON'T MAKE PEOPLE TAKE IT UP. MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN USE TERRESTRIAL AT THE MOMENT.

the caps is aimed at the BCI also.

Apogee · 29-01-2009 07:38PM

Elmo wrote: »

SO WHATS ON DTT WON'T MAKE PEOPLE TAKE IT UP.

That's simply not true. If, for example, the UK terrestrial channels were FTA on DTT (and the rep from C4 at the BCI conference suggested they could be made freely available), then that would considerably increase both the rate and extent of takeup. Similarly, HD content, particularly content exclusive to DTT such as GAA, would act as a significant incentive for DTT take-up. HD sports have proven a major draw on various platforms.

medoc · 29-01-2009 08:22PM

Free BBC ITV Channel4 would be nice but I think they are part of Boxer ( I could be wrong). People will more than likely need freesat once the Deflectors are switched off. If Boxer fail which I think is likely I cant see anyone supplying BBC free on DTT. RTE wont and shouldnt provide them. I still think an RTE3 would not need much money to be set up and run and would be a nice bonus on DTT. RTE HD could be DTT's big advantage.

Elmo · 29-01-2009 08:44PM

Apogee wrote: »

That's simply not true. If, for example, the UK terrestrial channels were FTA on DTT (and the rep from C4 at the BCI conference suggested they could be made freely available), then that would considerably increase both the rate and extent of takeup. Similarly, HD content, particularly content exclusive to DTT such as GAA, would act as a significant incentive for DTT take-up. HD sports have proven a major draw on various platforms.

For example I grew up with out any of the "main" English channels. I have to say that the reason for taking up Analogue Digital over either Sky or Cable was not based on the line up. (I understand that many people had 8 channels on analogue but not all).

ASO must happen regardless, regardless of Boxer, regardless of HD. So regardless of if we just have standard RTE ONE, TWO, TV3 and TG4 won't make those people who currently don't have the "main" English channels. Those people in those situations must upgrade. They just have to because they won't have analogue.

Sorry that you can't see that point.

Any yes UPC and Boxer wouldn't be to happy for people to have access to free "main" English channels.

You are right for a pay service, yes any pay service without the 4 main "english" channels won't work.

I have no problem with them on Irish DTT if they pay to be there, but they won't.

Also the conference was the biggest waste of space for Irish TV Broadcaster and Produers, TV3, RTE, TG4 where absent for most of it. (RTE Radio did attend).

RTE THREE

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