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Trinity or UCD

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  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tell you what. Ask in a thread in the Trinity forum, and someone called xeducat will give you the most accurate answer you can find on it!

    I always assumed that you replaced/upgraded it. I've seen a few lecturers in college with BAI MA after their names, so I naturally assumed that they were correct. Fatal mistake, I know :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Squirrel


    I'm doing common entry Engineering in DIT and from what I heard before I went in it was highly reccommended. I had UCD down on my CAO because it was easier for me to get to but didn't get the points. I was disappointed at first but now I think it was for the best.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Myth wrote: »
    Mech isn't exactly booming with jobs from talking to grads from last year, or at least in the areas they'd prefer.

    It is always difficult to start off in Mech because the learning curve is so steep your not earning your keep for the first few years.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Myth wrote: »
    Tell you what. Ask in a thread in the Trinity forum, and someone called xeducat will give you the most accurate answer you can find on it!

    I always assumed that you replaced/upgraded it. I've seen a few lecturers in college with BAI MA after their names, so I naturally assumed that they were correct. Fatal mistake, I know :D

    I've read the threads. Probably didnt take it what ever xeducat said.

    Doenst affect me for awhile so wont worry about it till then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 GenericUser


    TheAmateur wrote: »
    Hey thanks for all the replies and help. I went with UCD first, Trinity second. Now all I need to do is the hard part:D

    Thats what i did many years ago.
    1:UCD, 2: TCD
    I didnt get the B in maths that UCD required so I went to trinity instead.
    Loved every day of it (with some notable exam related exceptions), liked it so much I stayed another four years!
    Important things to note, UCD is moving to 3+2 early = good for accreditation etc, Trinity havent yet, but the BAI is accredited for another few years yet.
    Consider your commuting time, as we all know dublin is a bitch to get around. Youll have plenty of 9am starts, so if you say live in blanch, you will spend a hurrendous amount of time getting to and from UCD.
    Its kind of sad to say, but you really do have to factor these things in.
    Ended up in pure electronics myself. Good course(very academic theoretical / not so much hands on).

    Important things is, do well in your leaving and enjoy college!
    Good luck in future.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh



    Thats what i did many years ago.
    1:UCD, 2: TCD
    I didnt get the B in maths that UCD required so I went to trinity instead.
    Loved every day of it (with some notable exam related exceptions), liked it so much I stayed another four years!.

    Thats what happened to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭Eoin D


    Forgive me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that in Trinity you graduate with a Bsc Where as in UCD you graduate with a Beng?

    I'm a final year student in Civil engineering UCD at the moment and UCD was my first choice. In the long run it's work experience that counts more than the college you went to so really it doesn't make too much of a difference. The education you get in UCD is considered far more theoretical but the way UCD is going these days I don't know if I could stick it any longer, modularisation and all that jazz...


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eoin D wrote: »
    Forgive me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that in Trinity you graduate with a Bsc Where as in UCD you graduate with a Beng?

    Nope, you get a BA and a BAI from Trinity. Which, as you mentioned, makes no actual difference in terms of quality of degree.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    As I've mention before (maybe not on this thread) once you've a year or so of experience it doesnt matter what degree you got. Your degree will more than likely only influence your first job.

    I've never shown my degree to any employer. It never made a difference what college I went too. As it happens in my first job it was 50/50 tcd ucd, second job 60/40 to tcd and my new job its about the same (2 lads from my class also work there).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 iommmmm


    im interested in the civil eng side but wat wud be a better degree civil/structural /enviromental frm the tcd common entry or the civil eng degree from the ucd eng omnibus


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 iommmmm


    does anybody know wat the course structures are like for common entry engineering in ucd and trinity??????????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Roxy.Randrome


    iommmmm wrote: »
    does anybody know wat the course structures are like for common entry engineering in ucd and trinity??????????
    Well I'm in first year Eng in UCD. I didn't enter through the omnibus, although many of friends entered that way. I'm doing Chemical Engineering but the first year of all UCD engineering is mainly a common year. In the first semester/term all your modules and lab times etc are pre-selected for you. You have 6 modules per semester. In the second semester there are three mandatory modules, you get to select the lab times, one option module to be chosen from a specific branch of engineering (Chemical, Civil, Mechanical, Elec) and two other "horizons" modules which can be either engineering or from any other area that interests you. As far as the rest of the degree goes, you choose which branch of engineering you prefer and just join that class for the rest of the degree. It's also worth bearing in mind that if you do enter denominated engineering in first year, as long as you choose modules that keep your choices open, you can change from your chosen type of engineering to another if you prefer.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    I'm in TCD.


    1st two years are common.

    After that you can specialise in either

    • Civil, Structural and Environmental
    • Mechanical and Manufacturing
    • Computer
    • Electronic
    • Joint Computer and Electronic

    No interest in doing civil so I can't offer much help that way :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭Johnny86


    Any reason you've ruled out NUI Galway.
    You can do undenomianted in 1st year and then branch in many different denominations. Best of all is part of the course is during 3rd year you gon on 5months work placement..its how i got my job.

    Plus Galway is cheaper than Dub to live in (unless ur living at home).
    Great city that you can walk around and dont need taxis and buses and luas everywhere you go...god i live galway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭gubbie


    Eoin D wrote: »
    Forgive me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that in Trinity you graduate with a Bsc Where as in UCD you graduate with a Beng?

    I'm a final year student in Civil engineering UCD at the moment and UCD was my first choice. In the long run it's work experience that counts more than the college you went to so really it doesn't make too much of a difference. The education you get in UCD is considered far more theoretical but the way UCD is going these days I don't know if I could stick it any longer, modularisation and all that jazz...

    Eoin you should know that we're getting a BE

    I thought UCD did more types of Engineering. From what was mentioned in Trinners, UCD also do Electrical and Biosystems. But I suppose that doesn't matter if you've made up your mind

    Overall definatly go somewhere that offer good prospects for internships. Eoins right, you do really need experience


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭Eoin D


    gubbie wrote: »
    Eoin you should know that we're getting a BE

    I know I know, silly me. Have one now and thats all that matters :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 iommmmm


    can some1 tel me the pros nd cons of doin engineering in trinity or ucd cheers...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    iommmmm wrote: »
    can some1 tel me the pros nd cons of doin engineering in trinity or ucd cheers...
    Ehhhhh... What type of Eng you wanna do first?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 iommmmm


    its d 2 year common in tcd nd d omnibus in ucd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    Omnibus means common (its actual definition is: comprising of many elements).

    Difference is TCD have a 2 years of common study where as UCD have only one year.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    iommmmm wrote: »
    its d 2 year common in tcd nd d omnibus in ucd
    What I meant was what discipline do you want to specialise in. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 iommmmm


    civil


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    iommmmm wrote: »
    civil

    Doesnt really make a difference where you go to college.

    Each has its good points and bad.

    If I was doing it again I'd still pick Trinity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Animal-Mother83


    breadmond wrote: »
    i'v narrowed it down to Trinity and UCD and i hear good and bad things about both places from different people.

    Why have you narrowed it down to Trinity or UCD? Is it just because you want to go to a university?

    IMO (and alot of employers) an engineering degree from DIT is stronger. Also, DIT should officially get university status in the near future and they are building the new Grangegorman campus but I would say you will be finished your degree by the time that's done.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh



    Why have you narrowed it down to Trinity or UCD? Is it just because you want to go to a university?



    It could come down to location as well. That was an important factor for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭mickomack


    Why have you narrowed it down to Trinity or UCD? Is it just because you want to go to a university?

    IMO (and alot of employers) an engineering degree from DIT is stronger. Also, DIT should officially get university status in the near future and they are building the new Grangegorman campus but I would say you will be finished your degree by the time that's done.

    I would tend to agree about what is said about DIT above. Having studied in UCD I have found that even the basics for structural analysis were overlooked in college, while in DIT from talking to people who have gone there and people studying there at present they cover them a lot better. DIT gets lecturers in from industry who know exactly what the cutting edge designs are at present. It really depends what aspect of civil you want to specialise in but I've heard DIT is supposed to be better than UCD for structures but UCD is better for Soils, Transport and a more broader picture but tend not to go as deep into structures.

    Work experience is where you really learn though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭breadmond


    wow, I can't beleive this thread is still going. I'm halfway through first year of omnibus engineering in UCD at this stage. In response to the guy who mentioned DIT, it basically was nowhere near as convinient location wise for me, plus I wanted the much bigger campuses with more sports clubs and the like that UCD and Trinity offered. I went for UCD in the end on the basis of my career guidance teacher's advice and I can't say I regret my choice. I'm sure theres nothing wrong with Trinity but I'v found UCD great so far (although thats probably based more on the mad social life than attending lectures:D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 cazman


    I am in final year in UCD and would definately recommend to go to either DIT or Trinity. Throughout the four years are lecturers weren't great, and quite a few of them couldn't care less how you get on. With regard to my final year project its hard to get help with it as a lot of lecturers never seem to be in. If you wanted to go on and do structures, DIT seems to be the best place for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭AndyWhite


    What about DCU?

    I'm in 6th year at the moment as well and I'm stuck between Trinity, UCD and DCU. Trinity is more convenient, i've heard more positives about UCD's course, but DCU has the most modern campus along with convenience. I live in Dunshaughlin, out past blanch so its a long distance to travel for UCD.
    DCU has work placement as well so is that a major positive or does it matter?

    Any help would be appreciated with this! I'm really clueless at which to choose!


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,299 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    AndyWhite wrote: »
    What about DCU?

    I'm in 6th year at the moment as well and I'm stuck between Trinity, UCD and DCU. Trinity is more convenient, i've heard more positives about UCD's course, but DCU has the most modern campus along with convenience. I live in Dunshaughlin, out past blanch so its a long distance to travel for UCD.
    DCU has work placement as well so is that a major positive or does it matter?

    Any help would be appreciated with this! I'm really clueless at which to choose!
    Just be aware that some colleges are cancelling the work placements as they cannot find participating companies.

    For example the business degree in DCU has been shortened from 4 to 3 years.


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