Words fail me..

dreamers75 · 30-12-2008 11:40PM

CiaranC wrote: »

They pay lipservice to being football fans, but they have nothing in common with football fans elsewhere. This is why the domestic game suffers.

No its not, the domestic league suffers from idiots running clubs, idiots running the league.

When was the last asterix free league table? Does nobody actually look at that and think that a complete joke of a league?

When was the last time a team won the league and didnt implode the next after overspending?

Theres 2 sides to this we are fans of teams in the LOI and tbh that and only that is the reason we go. Anyone who isnt a fan just looks at the league as a complete joke which it is and it is consistently a joke.

I know Pats play some ****ing stunning football at times, cant defend for **** but hey going forward we can be quite awesome, our highlight reels can be pure class. I know as a football fan i getting my value for my money.

Doesnt mean that people will come watch us in a **** hole of a stadium cos we are pats. But kids will.............

CiaranC · 30-12-2008 11:43PM

I see your points dreamers, and would be the first to agree that we need to put our collective houses in order.

But dont be under the illusion that if and when that happens Paddy Premiership is going to come flooding through the turnstiles.

dreamers75 · 30-12-2008 11:49PM

CiaranC wrote: »

I see your points dreamers, and would be the first to agree that we need to put our collective houses in order.

But dont be under the illusion that if and when that happens Paddy Premiership is going to come flooding through the turnstiles.

Im not and never will be, they will never come tru our gates ever ever ever*, why go SDTV when you are brought up on HDTV. Kids are the future.

But im not gonna bitch and whinge about them killing our game or "stealing our ball" **** all to do with them, everything wrong with the LOI is the people within the LOI and will continue to be. We all want bigger gates going on an internet messageboard and complaining to people who support PL teams isnt going to get you any more. may make you feel better tho

*Bohs vs Celtic in CL qualifier then maybe, good luck getting a ticket.

Jazzy · 31-12-2008 12:10AM

CiaranC wrote: »

We need to forget about trying to placating the likes of you in the hopes that you'll become a football fan instead of a plastic tomorrow.

so u are the authority on wat is a football fan now? and i spose this is because u support a LoI team and are better at football supporting then others. where u get ur jollies of course is your own choice... and if that is on a football forum on the net where u attempt to lord it over ppl who are fans of the same sport then so be it.

OPENROAD · 31-12-2008 12:13AM

CiaranC wrote: »

I see your points dreamers, and would be the first to agree that we need to put our collective houses in order.

But dont be under the illusion that if and when that happens Paddy Premiership is going to come flooding through the turnstiles.

Agree, as an Arsenal supporter I have zero interest in LOI, and no amount of facilities etc would encourage me to go to a LOI match. That is just me, not sure how other PL supporters feel.

Gavin "shels" · 31-12-2008 12:23AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

Agree, as an Arsenal supporter I have zero interest in LOI, and no amount of facilities etc would encourage me to go to a LOI match. That is just me, not sure how other PL supporters feel.

Out of interest why are you an Arsenal supporter and why wouldn't you go to a LoI match?

OPENROAD · 31-12-2008 12:35AM

Gavin shels wrote: »

Out of interest why are you an Arsenal supporter and why wouldn't you go to a LoI match?

Became an Arsenal supporter after seeing David Rocatle playing for England, bacame hooked on Arsenal after my first live match at Highbury. I was just being honest when I said I would't go to a LOI match, not trying to be smart or anything like that, I just have zero interest in the league and no amount of marketing is going to attract me to it, I actually went to a Shels/Arsenal friendly years ago, the stadium was quite nice but just have no interest in going back, I'm only speaking for myself but would be interested to know how other PL supporters feel. By the way I'm not a barstool PL fan;)

CiaranC · 31-12-2008 12:40AM

dreamers75 wrote: »

*Bohs vs Celtic in CL qualifier then maybe, good luck getting a ticket.

Wont be looking for a ticket for that particular game

Publin · 31-12-2008 12:57AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

just have no interest in going back, I'm only speaking for myself but would be interested to know how other PL supporters feel. By the way I'm not a barstool PL fan;)

You may get slated for that, but as an LoI fan I appreciate your honesty and it is a step towards proving what I believe - no matter what we do, some people (EPL fans) just will not go to LoI games.

CiaranC wrote: »

Wont be looking for a ticket for that particular game

Signed up as a member of Bohs already?

As we're all being honest here, and I realise I'm going off-topic... but I have to say if such a game ever came about (Bohs -v- Celtic in a Champions/Europa league qualifier), a part of me would want to close off the stadium to all non-Bohs members/fans and other LoI fans, and just forget about the money the day-trippers would pay.

Obviously, this would never happen, so being more realistic I'd be more than happy to see us charge €100 for a ticket and fleece them (I was delighted with the rip-off prices charged by LoI teams to see friendlies against Sunderland and other EPL teams in recent years).

Hypothetical situation I know, but the thoughts of it alone are sickening to me... all those Irish people supporting a foreign club against their own Irish club in a Champions league qualifier (not picking on Celtic by the way, same would go for any EPL side).

_blank_ · 31-12-2008 09:57AM

Publin wrote: »

as an LoI fan I appreciate your honesty

+1

It's better than "the standard is shoite like, I watched like one game a few years ago, it was shoite, so oim never goin back like"

or

"the facilities are shoite like, I expect a Premier League standard stadium, but that one toim I went to a match, it was freezing loike"

or some other such waffle.

stovelid · 31-12-2008 11:16AM

Des wrote: »

+1

It's better than "the standard is shoite like, I watched like one game a few years ago, it was shoite, so oim never goin back like"

or

"the facilities are shoite like, I expect a Premier League standard stadium, but that one toim I went to a match, it was freezing loike"

or some other such waffle.

or the worst one:

I'd probably be a season ticket holder and member by now, only for you lot being so judgemental.

SectionF · 31-12-2008 02:25PM

Jazzy wrote: »

if u want to blame GAA then you will have to go and troll the GAA forum, same with rugby. the fact is PL fans are right here to blame and you can do it while remaining pretty much troll free. hence the want to feel better, hence the hypocrisy

Why would one go on a GAA or Irish rugby forum to discuss attitudes towards Irish football? This is the football ('soccer') forum, and we are discussing football, and the inherent contradiction in Irish people's approach to the sport, as condensed in the utterly offensive opinions of our Sports Minister.

If you want a forum that is free of discussion of Irish football and its issues, i.e. that is pure EPL, there are many in Britain and probably globally that are just a Google away. Why EPL fans should feel the need to discuss that league, other than travel and TV schedules, outside of British fora, is another matter. Perhaps it's part of the whole make-believe approach that the marketing of the game encourages.

Just because RTE and our print media largely ignore authentic Irish football in the form of the national league doesn't mean that a discussion forum on the net should follow suit. Sorry if it makes you feel uncomfortable and demands a huge effort from you to dream up reasons why you couldn't support an EPL/British team and an Irish one as well.

bobbysands81 · 31-12-2008 05:29PM

SectionF wrote: »

Why would one go on a GAA or Irish rugby forum to discuss attitudes towards Irish football? This is the football

Nope, it's the "soccer" forum.

Football in this country is Gaelic Football, soccer is soccer.

_blank_ · 31-12-2008 05:34PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Nope, it's the "soccer" forum.

Football in this country is Gaelic Football, soccer is soccer.

lol

SantryRed · 31-12-2008 06:43PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Nope, it's the "soccer" forum.

Football in this country is Gaelic Football, soccer is soccer.

:pac: No it's not. Football is football. Simple.

smackbunnybaby · 31-12-2008 07:01PM

SantryRed wrote: »

:pac: No it's not. Football is football. Simple.

i'd keep quiet unless you want to end up in the boot of a renault megane...

Jazzy · 31-12-2008 08:21PM

SectionF wrote: »

Why would one go on a GAA or Irish rugby forum to discuss attitudes towards Irish football? This is the football ('soccer') forum, and we are discussing football, and the inherent contradiction in Irish people's approach to the sport, as condensed in the utterly offensive opinions of our Sports Minister.

because the failures of irish football are tied into the relative successes that are irish rugby and GAA. to discuss that you'd need to go into a separate forum other then this as i dont think we know as much about rugby or GAA to have a reasonable debate. id imagine the supporters / posters on those other forums do.
without the facts all we have are opinions, and opinions are boll*cks

SectionF · 31-12-2008 08:29PM

Jazzy wrote: »

because the failures of irish football are tied into the relative successes that are irish rugby and GAA.

Probably. But not as much at they are tied into the failure or Irish football supporters to support Irish football. We need to prioritize.

SectionF · 31-12-2008 08:31PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Nope, it's the "soccer" forum.

Football in this country is Gaelic Football, soccer is soccer.

Are you trolling?

Jazzy · 31-12-2008 08:32PM

SectionF wrote: »

Probably. But not as much at they are tied into the failure or Irish football supporters to support Irish football. We need to prioritize.

is that an opinion? :pac:

SectionF · 31-12-2008 09:07PM

dreamers75 wrote: »

why go SDTV when you are brought up on HDTV

Quite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uOgyBK1c

bobbysands81 · 01-01-2009 07:13PM

SectionF wrote: »

Are you trolling?

The name of the forum you are posting in is???

Complete the name of RTE's flagship domestic soccer programme - Monday Night ......

You accuse me of trolling???

bobbysands81 · 01-01-2009 07:14PM

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

i'd keep quiet unless you want to end up in the boot of a renault megane...

What's that supposed to mean?

Jazzy · 01-01-2009 07:21PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

What's that supposed to mean?

inspector gadget says it was a joke

smackbunnybaby · 01-01-2009 07:22PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

What's that supposed to mean?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDC5DGPJ1CI&feature=related

Pure Cork · 01-01-2009 07:27PM

"If you can turn a fella GAY, you can turn a fella GAA."

SectionF · 01-01-2009 07:44PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

The name of the forum you are posting in is???

Complete the name of RTE's flagship domestic soccer programme - Monday Night ......

You accuse me of trolling???

As you well know, you deliberately edited the word 'soccer' from my post when you quoted it, to allow you to make a completely specious and irrelevant point. That's trolling.

In any case, the fact that RTE appears to have a policy never to call football soccer does not make it a reality, as you (and I'm sure our Sports Minister) seem to believe. The game, in the English language, is football. Gaelic football is not football, it's Gaelic football, regardless of the puerile name game pursued in our media.

PS: added to the collection...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDC5DGPJ1CI

:pac:

bobbysands81 · 01-01-2009 08:59PM

SectionF wrote: »

As you well know, you deliberately edited the word 'soccer' from my post when you quoted it, to allow you to make a completely specious and irrelevant point. That's trolling.

In any case, the fact that RTE appears to have a policy never to call football soccer does not make it a reality, as you (and I'm sure our Sports Minister) seem to believe. The game, in the English language, is football. Gaelic football is not football, it's Gaelic football, regardless of the puerile name game pursued in our media.

PS: added to the collection...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDC5DGPJ1CI
:pac:

Actually it's not.

I believe it's real name is Association Football.

Football in Ireland refers to Gaelic Football.
Football in America refers to American Football.
Football in Australia refers to Australian Rules Football.

All of the above are English speaking countries, yet football in none of the above refers to soccer, thus negating your argument in bold above. Football, in a British context, refers to soccer.

DSB · 01-01-2009 09:03PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Actually it's not.

I believe it's real name is Association Football.

Football in Ireland refers to Gaelic Football.
Football in America refers to American Football.
Football in Australia refers to Australian Rules Football.

All of the above are English speaking countries, yet football in none of the above refers to soccer, thus negating your argument in bold above. Football, in a British context, refers to soccer.

How hypocritical to be posting that in this thread.

bobbysands81 · 01-01-2009 09:05PM

DSB wrote: »

How hypocritical to be posting that in this thread.

How have I been hypocritical?

Words fail me..

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