The Manchester Derby - City vs United Match Thread

Mitch Connor · 01-12-2008 12:05PM

If he had hit it when basically running alongside Hart and SWP it could have pea-rolled in. Anyway, if he wanted to pass, he should have passed sooner. By the time he did pass, Rooney had to control it and cut back - i reckon Hart managed to run around 20 yards closer to the goal in that time.

Xavi6 · 01-12-2008 12:12PM

Here's the lob -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=colqPmbOro8

It really was a great save considering his momentum.

Mitch Connor · 01-12-2008 12:14PM

I honestly don't see what is so great about the save. Having got into the postion, if he had screwed it up and still let it in people would wonder what the hell he was doing.

Xavi6 · 01-12-2008 12:17PM

Ah come on give the lad credit. He sprinted three quarters of the length of the pitch (catching SWP btw as he did it) and kept the ball out. Try sprinting at full pace towards a goal with a ball dropping out of the sky over your shoulder. Not an easy thing to do at all.

_blank_ · 01-12-2008 12:20PM

Only one United fan saying that Park played well.

He was fúcking immense.

As was Evra.

A Dub in Glasgo · 01-12-2008 12:20PM

It was a great recovery and save

I see McLeish on MotD2 extolled the virtues of Park in yesterdays game. Real tigerish performance

Xavi6 · 01-12-2008 12:23PM

Des wrote: »

Only one United fan saying that Park played well.

He was fúcking immense.

As was Evra.

I think he benefitted a lot from Vassell being so crap. That allowed Evra to play as an auxillary winger with heaps of space. When SWP went wide in the second half he wasn't so good and thought he struggled then.

_blank_ · 01-12-2008 12:24PM

SWP got the better of him a couple of times, max.

After Evra was booked, he was never in trouble again, imo.

01-12-2008 12:28PM

Great save, you have to evenly credit Rooney for hitting the target from the halfway line!!

Park worked his socks off as he always does and that's why we should never ever sell him. Big game player. As is Fletcher. Evra was fan-feckin tastic yesterday. He offers so much going forward too, it' scary!

Mitch Connor · 01-12-2008 12:29PM

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah come on give the lad credit. He sprinted three quarters of the length of the pitch (catching SWP btw as he did it) and kept the ball out. Try sprinting at full pace towards a goal with a ball dropping out of the sky over your shoulder. Not an easy thing to do at all.

Yeah - it was good; don't see what is GREAT about it. So he sprinted.... not exactly much skill involved there. Once he had got into position, it was a fairly easy save to make, and as the ball was going towards the centre of the goal, he didn't need to adjust the direction of the run either.

Xavi6 · 01-12-2008 12:31PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Yeah - it was good; don't see what is GREAT about it. So he sprinted.... not exactly much skill involved there. Once he had got into position, it was a fairly easy save to make, and as the ball was going towards the centre of the goal, he didn't need to adjust the direction of the run either.

One word - momentum. Very difficult to get the timing spot on when he was sprinting.

Mitch Connor · 01-12-2008 12:33PM

He was sprinting - he didn't adjust his run, kept going full speed - what timing are you talking about?

Xavi6 · 01-12-2008 12:36PM

The ball was dropping over his shoulder as he was running towards his own goal. He needed to change the direction of the ball so that it went around the post. He had to do that from inside the 6 yard box and didn't have much of an angle to play with to get it around the post. The timing was crucial so that it didn't a) hit the post and bounce out to someone (if there was anyone there), or b) go stright into the net.

A frction of a second later and he would have palmed it into the net, hence the good timing.

Mitch Connor · 01-12-2008 12:40PM

So he jumped at the right time to get a hand to the ball.... wow, i wish all keepers at that super ability. Had he jumped sooner or later, he would have missed the ball. His timing was spot on, but that is what i expect of a keeper. It is like when people say a keeper is a good shot stopper.... WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE? Having got back into position, it is a save i would expect any top flight keeper to make. If he had palmed it into the goal i would have said he did poorly.

Xavi6 · 01-12-2008 12:42PM

Fair enough but I honestly can't believe you don't think it was a great save. Maybe if it happened at the other end it would be a different story but whatever.

brayblue24 · 01-12-2008 12:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Great save, you have to evenly credit Rooney for hitting the target from the halfway line!!

It was indeed a great save but not as good as the one Ronaldo made in the
1st half when somebody in the crowd (or poss. ballboy) hurled the ball at him!

01-12-2008 12:47PM

brayblue24 wrote: »

It was indeed a great save but not as good as the one Ronaldo made in the
1st half when somebody in the crowd (or poss. ballboy) hurled the ball at him!

stovelid · 01-12-2008 12:56PM

Xavi6 wrote: »

Here's the lob -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=colqPmbOro8

It really was a great save considering his momentum.

I also thought he did pretty well to save it considering the momentum of the shot and the speed he was running back at, myself. It must be very hard to judge. Look at SWP for proof, he would never have cleared it alone, he would have been way behind the line if he had got to the ball.

Carroller16 · 01-12-2008 01:30PM

brayblue24 wrote: »

It was indeed a great save but not as good as the one Ronaldo made in the
1st half when somebody in the crowd (or poss. ballboy) hurled the ball at him!

Yeah, what a stop!!

Xavi6 · 02-12-2008 01:40AM

So this is why SWP was hobbling in the first half.....

Lucky to get away with only a sore knee.

Dave! · 02-12-2008 01:49AM

Judging by that tackle, Fletcher must have been Keane keen to injure young Shaun! :pac:

It certainly slowed him down for a while anyways

Frisbee · 02-12-2008 01:51AM

The four United players booked yesterday:
Ronaldo, Fletcher, Carrick and Evra were all booked for fouls on SWP, no wonder he was limping near the end of the match...

Dave! · 02-12-2008 01:52AM

Someone needs to toughen that chap up, he should take a leaf out of Ronaldo's book! 'ard as nails he is

Xavi6 · 02-12-2008 01:56AM

Frisbee wrote: »

The four United players booked yesterday:
Ronaldo, Fletcher, Carrick and Evra were all booked for fouls on SWP, no wonder he was limping near the end of the match...

I was listening to the BBC 606 phone in the other day with Alan Green who claims he's not a United fan but clearly is. A City fan rang up and said that the only way United could stop SWP was by kicking him and that he wouldn't be surprised if SWP was targetted for some rough treatment. Green basically laughed at the caller and told him he didn't see anything wrong with the tackles on SWP. He cut the caller off eventually and did the exact same to another City fan who made the same point. I feckin hate Alan Green.

Unearthly · 02-12-2008 01:59AM

Xavi6 wrote: »

I was listening to the BBC 606 phone in the other day with Alan Green who claims he's not a United fan but clearly is..

:eek:

Xavi6 · 02-12-2008 02:04AM

Pighead · 02-12-2008 02:05AM

I always thought Greene was a Pool fan. Didn't he have a big bust up with Fergie years ago?

Unearthly · 02-12-2008 02:06AM

lol it's of huge belief amongst Man Utd fans he is a Liverpool fan. Despised if you ever visit red cafe(not that you will tbh)

Xavi6 · 02-12-2008 02:09AM

Hmmmm maybe he is a Pool fan but every time I've heard him he defends United to the hilt (though he did make jibes at Fergie's hyprocracies when it comes to criticising players).

Whoever he supports he still talks shite

Mitch Connor · 02-12-2008 08:55AM

The Fletcher tackle doesn't look great - but there was nothing wrong with Ronaldo's, and the booking Evra got was for a simple foul that happens loads in every game. Can't remember what Carrick got booked for.

I'll just say the worst tackle in the game was Micah Richards studding Vidic in the chest/stomach, and getting completely away with it. Shocking display from Webb at the weekend.

The Manchester Derby - City vs United Match Thread

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