Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Frisbee · 21-10-2008 09:59PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Dunno about Diaby, I can't see where he is supposed to play. He isn't a winger, he isn't a second striker and he doesn't look like a central midfielder either, at least not in a 4-4-2. European nights in a 4-5-1 seem to suit him. He doesn't look like the answer to the Flamini-replacement question unfortunately.

Amazing to win 5-2 away from home without actually playing well. Usual story really, apart from the finishing being excellent tonight. Our midfield was far too porous and our defence was all over the gaff. We still need a CB and a DM in January.

Diaby will work wonders for us in the CL I agree, he fits perfectly into the Hleb role and I can see him being an integral part of our CL progression. In the PL he's not as likely to get as many starts as he will be fighting for his place against all out strikers such as RVP and Bendtner.

Before the season started I would definitely have agreed with you that we need a new CB and DM in January. Im not so sure now though.
I'm more than happy to go on with Djourou and Song as cover. They've come on very well, definitely beginning to rate them quite highly

Frisbee · 21-10-2008 10:14PM

Diaby seems to be the best kept secret weapon Arsenal have.
On UTV, RTE and Setanta they have all said in their analysis that they expected Diaby to shield the defense....
Makes you wonder, do they actually bother doing research or do they just pretend to know about players. What kind of pundits are they?

Galvasean · 21-10-2008 10:18PM

Frisbee wrote: »

Diaby seems to be the best kept secret weapon Arsenal have.
On UTV, RTE and Setanta they have all said in their analysis that they expected Diaby to shield the defense....
Makes you wonder, do they actually bother doing research or do they just pretend to know about players. What kind of pundits are they?

He's big and my Match Attackix card says he is a midfielder. Ergo, he must be a defensive midfielder.

Pepe LeFrits · 21-10-2008 10:19PM

Frisbee wrote: »

Before the season started I would definitely have agreed with you that we need a new CB and DM in January. Im not so sure now though.
I'm more than happy to go on with Djourou and Song as cover. They've come on very well, definitely beginning to rate them quite highly

I've no problem with them as cover; I have problems with the players in the first team.

Frisbee · 21-10-2008 10:22PM

Galvasean wrote: »

He's big and my Match Attackix card says he is a midfielder. Ergo, he must be a defensive midfielder.

Looks like Vieira aswell.
Where else could he possibly play???

Galvasean · 22-10-2008 01:24AM

Frisbee wrote: »

Looks like Vieira aswell.
Where else could he possibly play???

for France?

For me Diaby was our best player tonight. He has recovered well since his injury set back. Walcott and Nasri were effective on the wings. Clichy was solid as ever. Great impact by Ramsey, really managed to make his mark (even if he hadn't have scored the goal). Eboué did pretty well too for the most part although why he refused to shoot after beating two men and only the keeper left at the end of the game is a mystery. Reminded me of Hleb.
Almunia pulled off some pretty good saves and wasn't at fault for either goal - Silvestre and Song respectively. They didn't impress me much at all (except ironically when in attack). Although perhaps Silvestre's lapses can be blamed on lack of match fitness after injury while I still regard Song as more of a midfielder.

Evil_Clown · 22-10-2008 08:41AM

Great result last night, I really didn't expect it but it's great when it happens

As said Diaby was outstanding in his 1st start for I don't know how long, imagine what he will be like when he gets properly match fit.
I think Walcott has further reminded Carlos that it's time to go, he roasted him
Eboue was pretty good aswell, I though his goal line clearance and follow up tackle were excellent
Almunia our captain fantastic made some great saves also, Almunia for England

I actually thought having gallas out for a little while might be a good thing, but after last night the sooner he comes back the better imo

Does anyone else find that it's getting increasingly harder to predict Arsenal starting line-up's lately, the one last night was a surprise to me anyway but it worked

yahoo_moe · 22-10-2008 09:33AM

It worked results-wise but it's horrible to get the same gut-wrenching feeling every time the opposition punts a high ball down the centre of our defence or gets a corner or free kick in the Arsenal defensive third... and that seems to apply to every combination of Toure, Gallas, Song, Silvestre and Djourou at the moment.

On the plus side, Ramsey was fantastic again last night - to look that good at 17 away in Turkey in 20 minutes or however long it was is awesome.

L'prof · 22-10-2008 09:43AM

yahoo_moe wrote: »

On the plus side, Ramsey was fantastic again last night - to look that good at 17 away in Turkey in 20 minutes or however long it was is awesome.

He reminds me of Fabregas in a lot of ways except he can score (from outside the box too)! He got a great goal for Wales the other week!

Wreck · 22-10-2008 11:18AM

Great result, only caught short highlights so can't comment too much on the performance. The defence did look terrible though.

Wreck wrote: »

Yeah and once I remembered that Aragones is the manager I decided to back them after all.

Ez money

Galvasean · 22-10-2008 11:23AM

I read taht Walcott's contract is up in 20 months. Time to get the chequebook out.

leninbenjamin · 22-10-2008 11:48AM

just watched 15 mins of highlights there, and even from that I Silvestre and Song were absolutely abysmal, i don't think i've ever seen as bad a performance from either. I'm finding it very difficult to decide what that result actually means. yeah they scored 5, but looking at the highlights Fenerbache could have gotten the same, but for some fantastic keeping from Almunia and general wastefulness. the confidence should be boosted by this, but i don't think it represents anything of a turnaround that some of the media are suggesting. Fenerbache have been piss poor as well this year compared to the last few years.

really do need a new CB though. an Eastern European stopper type seems to be all the rage these days.

Frisbee · 22-10-2008 11:51AM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

really do need a new CB though. an Eastern European stopper type seems to be all the rage these days.

Reckon we could get Slaven Bilic? :pac:

DenMan · 22-10-2008 01:14PM

Nacer Barazite is to have his injured assessed by Derby County by having a scan. Hope it is not too bad. Is he on a season long loan from Arsenal? Does anybody know what the story is with season long loans? I know the agreement between both clubs is for the season but can the parent club recall the player at anytime during the season if injuries and suspensions thin the squad. Wenger wanted him to get first team experience, but I hope it doesn't end up with him being on the table with a first team medical team getting their experience. :eek:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/derby_county/7683675.stm

Diddy Kong · 23-10-2008 09:23AM

DenMan wrote: »

Nacer Barazite is to have his injured assessed by Derby County by having a scan. Hope it is not too bad. Is he on a season long loan from Arsenal? Does anybody know what the story is with season long loans? I know the agreement between both clubs is for the season but can the parent club recall the player at anytime during the season if injuries and suspensions thin the squad. Wenger wanted him to get first team experience, but I hope it doesn't end up with him being on the table with a first team medical team getting their experience. :eek:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/derby_county/7683675.stm

He is only there till January 1st. Hopefully the scan will work out for him and it should be only a few weeks on the side line.

Galvasean · 23-10-2008 01:21PM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

really do need a new CB though. an Eastern European stopper type seems to be all the rage these days.

Another Igor Stepanovs would do just dandy.

Royale with Cheese · 23-10-2008 06:50PM

Eduardo to be back for mid November. Excellent. Could do with another decent striker at the moment. Especially one who can put away chances.

DenMan · 23-10-2008 07:08PM

Indeed it is going to be brilliant to have him back. He was really in great form before the Birmingham incident. On another note, Rosicky will not be back until the new year, an Arsenal player who is not afraid of shooting.

Galvasean · 23-10-2008 07:13PM

Ha! Eduardo back before Rosicky. Really shows how long Rosicky has been missing.
Guess Wenger wont sign anybody in January feeding us the line "Ediuardo and Thomas" will be like new signings. Said the same about RvP (who was shockingly out of match practice until the very end of the season.
If we could get Eduardo and Rosicky back to proper fitness levels we would surely have (arguably) the best attacking options in the premiership.

Adebayor
Bendtner
Diaby
Eduardo
Nasri
Rosicky
van Persie
Vela
Walcott

Take your pick.

Frisbee · 23-10-2008 07:14PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Adebayor
Bendtner
Diaby
Eduardo
Nasri
Rosicky
van Persie
Vela
Walcott

Take your pick.

At the moment.

Evil_Clown · 24-10-2008 08:09AM

Looks like Wenger is picking up on the lack of atmosphere at the Emirates also, it is not like him to criticise his own in public so this must really be getting at him
From AGM yesterday

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/wenger-blasts-fans-for-lack-of-support-1508017.html

yahoo_moe · 24-10-2008 10:43AM

Frisbee wrote: »

At the moment.

I really think you're being waaaay too down on Adebayor at the moment, seems like every post you're at him. He's still working for the team and he's still putting away chances at about the same rate as last year so I don't really see that big a difference - he's never been a lethal 2 out of 3 striker and probably never will be. Neither is Bendtner or Van Persie.

Frisbee · 24-10-2008 10:54AM

yahoo_moe wrote: »

I really think you're being waaaay too down on Adebayor at the moment, seems like every post you're at him. He's still working for the team and he's still putting away chances at about the same rate as last year so I don't really see that big a difference - he's never been a lethal 2 out of 3 striker and probably never will be. Neither is Bendtner or Van Persie.

Thats because Id just like to see him left out of the team for just one game and us start with RVP/Bendtner up front.

kronsington · 24-10-2008 10:39PM

i assume you've all read about this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/24/arsenal-wenger-gallas-cigarette

it isn't a huge deal, but shows poor judgement on his part. i've never warmed to him and sh*t like this doesn't help. give cesc the armband

L'prof · 24-10-2008 11:46PM

kronsington wrote: »

i assume you've all read about this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/24/arsenal-wenger-gallas-cigarette

it isn't a huge deal, but shows poor judgement on his part. i've never warmed to him and sh*t like this doesn't help. give cesc the armband

It shows he's human, just like everybody else...not that important in my opinion!

Galvasean · 25-10-2008 12:40PM

Frisbee wrote: »

Thats because Id just like to see him left out of the team for just one game and us start with RVP/Bendtner up front.

Well he got a goal against Fenerbache, that should guarantee his place in the team for another 10 games.

Galvasean · 25-10-2008 12:59PM

United only drew with Everton today. This is excellent news for us.

25-10-2008 01:02PM

and hull

DenMan · 25-10-2008 01:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

and hull

Hull go to West Brom today, ko 3pm. Bookies have WBA down as favourites to win. tbh a draw I would be happy with.

25-10-2008 02:55PM

jasonorr wrote: »

It shows he's human, just like everybody else...not that important in my opinion!

Wrong. It is crucial that a modern day player maintains healthy diet and fitness habits. they get paid thousands a week to keep themselves in prime shape as if they lose a second of their pace i could potentially cost the club millions. this guy is not fit to captain arsenal on or off the field and is behaving like a spoilt prima donna. its about time wenger stopped viewing him through rose tinted glasses and have the bottle to punish him and strip him of his captaincy which has been a series of blunders and mishaps. frankly i couldn't care less at this stage if he left us, he's more of a liability this year then an inspiration.

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