Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

slingerz · 04-10-2008 02:10PM

Dub13 wrote: »

If any of you lot are on Irishkop I can get you a day trip to the Wigan game, there are limited places left with match ticket now for 125. all in day trip...they are super trips and a great bunch of lads I am going myself.

The deatils are the same as before:-

Departs Dublin Irish Ferries - Dublin Port 0840
there will be a bus collecting from Holyhead, and its straight to Anfield

we normally arrive approx 1pm

meet after the game in the Vines "Big House" Pub, which is beside the Adelphi Hotel,

Collecting at the Adelphi Hotel around the side at 11pm

back to holyhead for the 0240 sailing,
normally cabins available

arrive dublin 0555 sunday morning

That sounds like a great deal but are those day trips not absolutely knackering??!

colly10 · 04-10-2008 02:44PM

zAbbo wrote: »

Aldo can bugger off, what on earth would he know about the financial dealings of the club, just another ex player giving his uneducated tuppence (like Whelen, Souness and Houghton)

I think our financial dealings are pretty much common knowledge, id say few would feel they're good for the club. Hicks spent nearly all of last season in the papers even though all his talk was doing him no favours

Deleted User wrote: »

Glad thats been cleared up anyway.

Agger seems really happy anyway so I don't see why he would want to leave.

I hope your right, id never drop Skrtel on current form, he's been quality, id hate to loose agger though

Dub13 · 04-10-2008 03:42PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

I was due to go to Stamford for the Chelsea game, but had compleely forgotten that I'm running the Dub marathon the next day!
Kinda put an end to that.
I might be up for the Wigan game.
I'll take a look.

Hopefuley you can make it.We are also having a IrishKop beers for the Chelsea game in Sinnots on 26 Oct,its the day before the marathon I know this because a lad on Irishkop is running the marathon but he is coming in but only on the soft drinks.

You are all welcome.

slingerz wrote: »

That sounds like a great deal but are those day trips not absolutely knackering??!

They are fine,this will be my third one so far this season.The crack with the lads keeps you going.So people get a cabin on the way back and have a kip.

Karmafaerie · 04-10-2008 03:48PM

Dub13 wrote: »

Hopefuley you can make it.We are also having a IrishKop beers for the Chelsea game in Sinnots on 26 Oct,its the day before the marathon I know this because a lad on Irishkop is running the marathon but he is coming in but only on the soft drinks.

You are all welcome.

I think I know the guy.
I'm the one who got him to agree to run the marathon sure!
(He hates me now!!!:p)

I'll definately be in Synotts for the Chelski game, and should know tomorrow about the Wigan game.

ibh · 04-10-2008 06:18PM

Dub13 wrote: »

They are fine,this will be my third one so far this season.The crack with the lads keeps you going.So people get a cabin on the way back and have a kip.

How many people usually head over to these day trips. I am interested in it but I don't know if i'd be flying solo or whether i'd have an accomplice with me.

I have joined Irish Kop last week so i'll try and make up my mind in the next day or so.

Dub13 · 04-10-2008 06:34PM

ibh wrote: »

How many people usually head over to these day trips. I am interested in it but I don't know if i'd be flying solo or whether i'd have an accomplice with me.

I have joined Irish Kop last week so i'll try and make up my mind in the next day or so.

We have two trips going to this one,one group flying into Birmingham airport and getting a bus up.These all booked early and got flights for around 30/40 euro all in.

The you have a bus load going over on the boat,I am on this one and this is the one we have space on.I am not sure we booked a big bus (53 seats) or the smaller one (33) as Pam is organizing this one.I was not meant to be going to this game only decided to go yesterday.

Don't worry about going alone a few lads come alone and you will not be alone you will be with a great bunch of lads who will make you feel very welcome.

mike65 · 04-10-2008 07:08PM

Great interview by Xabi Alonso which is in several papers today

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article4877965.ece

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/04/premierleague.liverpool

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/liverpool/3131323/Xabi-Alonso-back-in-favour-at-Liverpool-after-Gareth-Barry-saga-Football.html

Mike

Tusky · 04-10-2008 07:31PM

One thing that has really frustrated me so far this season is how Rafa has dealt with Babel. I thought he was really starting to realize his potential...and not just from the bench. He showed improved control, better decision making and a more positive attitude. He scored against United and got an assist in the Champions League qualifier. I know Rafa wants to give Riera some games but Babel has had too limited chances considering the promise he has shown.

jesus_thats_gre · 04-10-2008 07:42PM

Tusky wrote: »

One thing that has really frustrated me so far this season is how Rafa has dealt with Babel. I thought he was really starting to realize his potential...and not just from the bench. He showed improved control, better decision making and a more positive attitude. He scored against United and got an assist in the Champions League qualifier. I know Rafa wants to give Riera some games but Babel has had too limited chances considering the promise he has shown.

I think I remember a recent interview with Rafa where he way saying that he was happy with his overall play but his tactical awareness was something he needed to work on.

Babel is still very young and if far from the complete article. He is obviously developing and there is no need to rush him. I expect him to feature alot more season than he did but he won't become a starting player this season. I wouldn't base anything on the first few games of the season as he was at the olympics.

If I remember rightly, you were also very disgruntled with the apparent treatment of Finnan? If I am right, also thought at the time that you were being unrealistic. Loyalty is important but the manager knows exactly what he is doing and in my opinion, has never been wrong in his decision to get rid of a player.

Tusky · 04-10-2008 07:55PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I think I remember a recent interview with Rafa where he way saying that he was happy with his overall play but his tactical awareness was something he needed to work on.

Babel is still very young and if far from the complete article. He is obviously developing and there is no need to rush him. I expect him to feature alot more season than he did but he won't become a starting player this season. I wouldn't base anything on the first few games of the season as he was at the olympics.

Hes 22 in a couple of months. Hes not that young. Hes definitely not the finished article but the only way he will improve is with games. Hes looked great anytime he has played this season so why not continue playing him ? It would do his confidence a world of good.

Psv - 10 minutes
Everton - didnt play
Stoke - 25 minutes
Marseille - started
Man United - 20 minutes and scored the winner
Aston Villa - didnt play
Standard Leige - 20 minutes and got an assist to win the game
Middlesborough - 20 minutes

I want to see him get more games.

jesus_thats_gre · 04-10-2008 08:05PM

I don't think confidence is an issue. His poor first touch, decision making and passing are the concerns that I would have. I don't think he deserves a starting spot to be honest but do expect him to play more this season than the last few fixtures would suggest he is going to.

Tusky · 04-10-2008 08:11PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

His poor first touch, decision making and passing are the concerns that I would have.

All of which have improved muchly thus far this season...

jesus_thats_gre · 04-10-2008 08:26PM

I don't really agree to be honest. He seems better but not much.

Not seen enough of him either to draw proper conclusions

MementoMori · 04-10-2008 09:00PM

Tusky - I was surprised to see how little he has actually played - then I remembered the Crewe game as well - pretty sure he played the full 90 in that as well.:)

I think the Olympics certainly didnt help his case, or the injury he picked up with the Dutchies prior to Euro 2008, which curtailed his pre-season prior to the Olympics. I would expect and hope to see quite a good bit of him this season and I think he has improved from what I have seen of him. I think the arrival of Riera and even in a sense Keane havent exactly helped him nail down a first-team place.

I was well surprised to see Babel play on the right when he came on as sub during the week. I have to say the substitutions mid-week confused me - I didnt understand why you would replace Riera with Benayoun as opposed to Babel. I would have thought that Babel has pretty much nailed down first sub in a sense especially on the left. I do not like Benayoun playing on the left especially if Kuyt is playing on the right as I think it is a very narrow formation.

Anyone thinking we might actually see some more of Babel on the right? Only as a sub but I could see a certain logic in replacing Kuyt with Babel on occasion - I wouldnt expect it to be a common occurence but I do think it could be a possibility. He looked pretty decent on the right in his cameo mid-week.

I think Riera has the upper hand at the moment on the left-side - mainly because Riera doesn't ever seem to lose possession cheaply, whereas Babel does. While Babel probably offers more of a goal threat, Riera offers more in terms of link-up play and in a defensive sense.

colly10 · 05-10-2008 01:18PM

Anyone know where I can watch the game on the web? I know its probably available on sopcast but the quality is rubbish, anyone know if there showing it on anywhere like ustream?
Thanks

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I don't really agree to be honest. He seems better but not much.

Not seen enough of him either to draw proper conclusions

I think he's looking better and better every game he plays in, he has serious potential, he'll be a great player (not really ready yet though). Riera has been quality as well though so he'll probably rotate between the two later in the season.

mike65 · 05-10-2008 01:20PM

Check the match thread

Mike

05-10-2008 04:55PM

YOU ****ING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

missingtime · 05-10-2008 05:04PM

YESSSSSSSSSS!

I'M ****ING DELIGHTED

COME ON YOU RED MEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Chardee MacDennis · 05-10-2008 05:10PM

we played some great football at times, but defending still needs improvement. Doesnt look like we will be seeing Skrtel for a while unfortunately but it gives Agger a chance to shine. Reina needs to sort out that wall for freekicks as well, shocking 2 man wall invited the shot!

anyway brilliant turn around, we're really starting to see a confident side that i havent seen in us in absolutely years...

Tusky · 05-10-2008 05:24PM

Great result and dont want to be talking negative after it but...

Tusky wrote: »

Hes 22 in a couple of months. Hes not that young. Hes definitely not the finished article but the only way he will improve is with games. Hes looked great anytime he has played this season so why not continue playing him ? It would do his confidence a world of good.

Psv - 10 minutes
Everton - didnt play
Stoke - 25 minutes
Marseille - started
Man United - 20 minutes and scored the winner
Aston Villa - didnt play
Standard Leige - 20 minutes and got an assist to win the game
Middlesborough - 20 minutes

I want to see him get more games.

What does Babel have to do to get a game ? The only thing not playing him will do, is dent his confidence.

missingtime · 05-10-2008 05:32PM

Tusky wrote: »

What does Babel have to do to get a game ? The only thing not playing him will do, is dent his confidence.

Babel has to play from the start like the way he plays as a sub

zAbbo · 05-10-2008 05:33PM

Giving the circumstances, I don't think it was suited to Babel coming on

Tusky · 05-10-2008 05:36PM

missingtime wrote: »

Babel has to play from the start like the way he plays as a sub

The one start that he has had in the league this season was possibly his best ever game for us. Thats why I'm so frustrated. He looks fantastic from the start which showed real progress....and then he was dropped..and has barely featured since.

missingtime · 05-10-2008 05:37PM

Did anyone see after the match interviews? Any word on Skrtel...?

The commentators were saying that Carra was screaming at him to get up. Carra's kerazy

missingtime · 05-10-2008 05:41PM

Tusky wrote: »

The one start that he has had in the league this season was possibly his best ever game for us. Thats why I'm so frustrated. He looks fantastic from the start which showed real progress....and then he was dropped..and has barely featured since.

I guess Rafa has some other plan then.

Rafa seems to prefer him as an impact sub as thats were his goals come from.

Tusky · 05-10-2008 05:43PM

missingtime wrote: »

I guess Rafa has some other plan then.

Rafa seems to prefer him as an impact sub as thats were his goals come from.

Babel - Far More Than a Super Sub

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N161493080929-1308.htm

29th September - article based on comments by Benitez.

Dont be at yourself · 05-10-2008 05:56PM

Rafa has had great success with the players he is playing though, so it is understandable if he's reluctant to change things.

It's a long season, and there's no doubt that Babel will get his chance. Rafa is right to stick with his form players, and unfortunately that means talented players like Babel and Agger have to be benched. Agger will get his chance in the coming weeks, and no doubt Babel will too - though hopefully under better circumstances1

missingtime · 05-10-2008 06:02PM

Tusky wrote: »

Babel - Far More Than a Super Sub

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N161493080929-1308.htm

29th September - article based on comments by Benitez.

Rafa wrote:

"But first of all he has to improve tactically and we are working with him on that.

I dunno to be honest why he doesn't play him. I would prefer to see him on the pitch than Kyut (not today of course

)

I think there is a lot of pressure on him and he tries to do too much at times. I think this is what rafa is working with him on.

~Rebel~ · 05-10-2008 06:08PM

On Babel, whatever about not starting him, Riera is quality and in a bit of form too so either way its disappointing on some level, But, I absolutely cant understand why Yossi is coming on on the left instead of Babel. Absolutely just dont get it. I like Yossi, but Babel is far better on the left. If Yossi's coming on he really needs to be either central or right to do his best work.

On Skrtel;

Rafa Benitez fears Liverpool's Martin Skrtel could be set for an extended spell on the sidelines after injuring his knee against Manchester City.

The Reds stopper fell awkwardly late on when attempting to keep the ball away from substitute Ched Evans at The City of Manchester Stadium.

Skrtel was caught in the air by Evans and upon landing his right leg caught in the ground and needed to be stretched off with his leg heavily strapped.

Benitez has confirmed Skrtel will have a scan on Monday, although should he require any length of time on the sidelines Daniel Agger is on stand-by to fill in.

"It seems serious. He's twisted his knee and now we have to wait for the scan," the Spanish tactician told Sky Sports.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_4249446,00.html

whatawaster · 05-10-2008 06:15PM

what a win, fantastic 2nd half performance.

Riera put in his best performance yet, some of his balls into the box were top class.

Hopefully Skrtel won't be out for too long. He's been amazing since he came in January. It's great that we have quality like Agger to fall back on though.

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