Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

03-10-2008 12:59PM

monkey9 wrote: »

Paul Eaton 03 October 2008

Rafael Benitez today told Real Madrid they would be wasting their time making a transfer window bid for Daniel Agger.
Reports in this morning's media suggested the Spanish giants are preparing to swoop for the Danish defender once the window reopens next year, but Benitez insists Agger is not for sale and remains a part of his future Anfield plans.

"The situation is very simple, Daniel Agger is our player and he is not for sale," said the Reds boss.

"His future is at Anfield and nowhere else. He knows my ideas because we have talked with him and he has a long future with us.

"We do not want to lose our concentration just before we play Manchester City by talking about other things but it is important that people know that Agger is not for sale."

Glad thats been cleared up anyway.

Agger seems really happy anyway so I don't see why he would want to leave.

Mr Alan · 03-10-2008 01:07PM

question:

who has a better percentage win rate in first 250 games for Liverpool?

A)Shankly
B)Paisely
C)Benitez

answers on a postcard please.

machiavellianme · 03-10-2008 01:40PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

question:

who has a better percentage win rate in first 250 games for Liverpool?

A)Shankly
B)Paisely
C)Benitez

answers on a postcard please.

Its on the postcard but times are hard and I cant spare the cost of a stamp

mike65 · 03-10-2008 01:44PM

Benitez.

Mike

spockety · 03-10-2008 01:54PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

question:

who has a better percentage win rate in first 250 games for Liverpool?

A)Shankly
B)Paisely
C)Benitez

answers on a postcard please.

You would have to assume Paisley, but when you take into account your motive for posting, the answer is obviously Benitez.

Mr Alan · 03-10-2008 02:01PM

you people are too smart for me

meditraitor · 03-10-2008 02:09PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

question:

who has a better percentage win rate in first 250 games for Liverpool?

A)Shankly
B)Paisely
C)Benitez

answers on a postcard please.

Paisley ?

Cant find any statistic based on 250 games but in total

Paisley managed for 535 games with a 57.38% win rate
Benitez managing for 250 games with a 56.8% win rate
The great Shankley managed for 783 with a 51.98% win rate

missingtime · 03-10-2008 02:44PM

Does anyone know fergusons percentage?
He would seen to be the benchmark these days.

meditraitor · 03-10-2008 02:49PM

missingtime wrote: »

Does anyone know fergusons percentage?
He would seen to be the benchmark these days.

For united

Played 1220
Won 706

57.87% win I think (feel free to correct me)

and just for anyone who might be interested
Wenger 57.6% win

jesus_thats_gre · 03-10-2008 03:01PM

According to Wikipedia, Rafa's is 56.63%.

meditraitor · 03-10-2008 03:12PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

According to Wikipedia, Rafa's is 56.63%.

I took it from here ...
http://www.lfchistory.net/managers_lcstats.asp?manager_id=20

missingtime · 03-10-2008 03:15PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7650395.stm

Aldo is a little sad

meditraitor · 03-10-2008 03:19PM

Another interesting stat is King Kenny

60.91% win

DeadSkin · 03-10-2008 03:20PM

missingtime wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7650395.stm

Aldo is a little sad

Aren't most Liverpool fans. We all want the two yanks out and a new stadium.

*assuming you mean sad in the sense of

DeadSkin · 03-10-2008 03:21PM

meditraitor wrote: »

Another interesting stat is King Kenny

60.91% win

Rafa out!!!!! Bring back Kenny!!!! :pac:

zAbbo · 03-10-2008 03:49PM

Aldo can bugger off, what on earth would he know about the financial dealings of the club, just another ex player giving his uneducated tuppence (like Whelen, Souness and Houghton)

On the pitch (Liverpool) are not doing too badly, they're holding their own

You'd swear we were mid table

Mr Alan · 03-10-2008 04:01PM

Zabbo, Aldo is dead right-we are in trouble financially, this summer we had to sell to buy to an extent and we've just shelved the plans for our stadium! things are going well on the pitch, but we're still a tatters behind the scenes

spockety · 03-10-2008 04:05PM

zAbbo wrote: »

Aldo can bugger off, what on earth would he know about the financial dealings of the club, just another ex player giving his uneducated tuppence (like Whelen, Souness and Houghton)

You'd swear we were mid table

WTF, Aldo is pretty much spot on. Please don't compare him to Whelan!!

Malice · 03-10-2008 04:13PM

zAbbo wrote: »

Aldo can bugger off, what on earth would he know about the financial dealings of the club, just another ex player giving his uneducated tuppence (like Whelen, Souness and Houghton)

I didn't read anything wrong in that article. The fact is that Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal all have far bigger stadiums which enables them to bring in far higher match revenue. The longer the two Americans faff about over the building of Liverpool's new stadium, the more we'll lag behind in this area.

missingtime · 03-10-2008 04:46PM

Ray houghton should be smacked over the head with a frying pan,

And i didn't mean sad as pathetic sad as in

Doesn't aldo have a hand in that sons of shankly movement.

DeadSkin · 03-10-2008 04:51PM

zAbbo wrote: »

Aldo can bugger off, what on earth would he know about the financial dealings of the club, just another ex player giving his uneducated tuppence (like Whelen, Souness and Houghton)

You'd swear we were mid table

Chill the beans there zAbbo

missingtime wrote: »

Ray houghton should be smacked over the head with a frying pan,

And i didn't mean sad as pathetic sad as in

Doesn't aldo have a hand in that sons of shankly movement.

I'd go with an aul' heavy duty griddle pan :pac:

mike65 · 03-10-2008 05:51PM

I'd suggest a George Forman grill - no messin about!

Mike

Tusky · 03-10-2008 07:04PM

Just thinking..Liverpool could play a pretty amazing 4-3-3.

Reina

Arbeloa

Carra

Skrtel

Aurelio

Alonso

Masch

Gerrard

Keane

Babel

Torres

Heavily reliant on the full backs getting forward. Id love to see it.

~Rebel~ · 03-10-2008 07:46PM

Tusky wrote: »

Just thinking..Liverpool could play a pretty amazing 4-3-3.
Reina

Arbeloa
Carra
Skrtel
Aurelio
Alonso
Masch
Gerrard
Keane
Babel
Torres

Heavily reliant on the full backs getting forward. Id love to see it.

aye a lot of people on here talked about expecting that when Keane was signed, including myself. Where it falls down though is in a complete lack of width, which was where we were in trouble towards the start of the season. Plenty of class through the middle, but no space to show it.

In theory, Keane in that position is a nice idea, but in practice he's a roamer and to be getting the best out of him, he would be moving into gerrards position.The natural progression from this is to play Gerrard on the right, which is all well and good except that he'd be pissed.

What you put up would still be quality, but i dont think we'll see it much as if it were to be used on a regular basis, one would have to question the logic of buying a deep central player in Keane for so much money, when one could have gotten a top notch wide attacker and actually be getting the best out of them. But Im sure we'll see it at some point during the season and it'll be interesting to see.

But we have definately been playing our best football so far when using the full width of the pitch to play the ball around. Not necessarily even just running down the line, but making neat triangle passes all over the park and not just in the central third.

DeadSkin · 03-10-2008 08:00PM

Hehe Mike, I'd reckon a few smacks from Foreman himself might sort him out :pac: :pac:

Karmafaerie · 04-10-2008 10:57AM

There's just something about so many ex-Liverpool players.
In some ways it's understandable.
The played during a period where Liverpool were the best team in England, if not the world.
We dominated English football, and won European Cups for fun.
They seem to think that it's Liverpools God given right to win everything, every season.
They just don't live in the real world.
Or understand modern football.
They can't comprehend the money, or politics involved.

Other clubs don't have it as bad to be honest, cause very few clubs had a period of dominance like that.

In twenty years, if Utd are struggling, I'm sure that they'll have a fair few ex players pissing off fans every week.

oobydooby · 04-10-2008 11:40AM

Maybe with all these quality options the selection has become too complicated even for Rafa and he ends up defaulting with a fairly steady team. Perhaps after the international break he'll have a chance to figure out the optimum rotation for that week.

I'd love to see that 4-3-3 too. Against a good team.

Dub13 · 04-10-2008 12:12PM

If any of you lot are on Irishkop I can get you a day trip to the Wigan game, there are limited places left with match ticket now for 125. all in day trip...they are super trips and a great bunch of lads I am going myself.

The deatils are the same as before:-

Departs Dublin Irish Ferries - Dublin Port 0840
there will be a bus collecting from Holyhead, and its straight to Anfield

we normally arrive approx 1pm

meet after the game in the Vines "Big House" Pub, which is beside the Adelphi Hotel,

Collecting at the Adelphi Hotel around the side at 11pm

back to holyhead for the 0240 sailing,
normally cabins available

arrive dublin 0555 sunday morning

Dont be at yourself · 04-10-2008 02:03PM

Money's tight at the moment, but I'm gonna have to get over soon!

Karmafaerie · 04-10-2008 02:09PM

I was due to go to Stamford for the Chelsea game, but had compleely forgotten that I'm running the Dub marathon the next day!
Kinda put an end to that.
I might be up for the Wigan game.
I'll take a look.

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