Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Wreck · 28-09-2008 08:35AM

It wasn't the (admittedly terrible) defending from the corner that cost us the match, it was the wasteful finishing. The game should have been over by half time. It's not even the 'trying to pass the ball into the net' scenario, it's a lack of composure/clinical finishing. Adebayor was the biggest culprit as he has been all season, but Van Persie was poor too.

Mossy Monk · 28-09-2008 11:22AM

Eboue looked for a pass with just the keeper in front of him. That's the sort of thing that will cost Arsenal titles.

Frisbee · 28-09-2008 11:52AM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Gallas and Toure will never be a strong CB pairing. That's the third goal already we've conceded from a corner this season, and we've given away very few corners. Johan Djourou has been our best CB so far this season; why is he on the bench?

Likewise Nicklas Bendtner has been our best striker this season, why is he on the bench too?

Who do you drop though?
If you drop Gallas he'll have a hissy fit and possibly try and burn down the Emirates in a bout of childish rage.
And if you drop Toure, well... I just wouldnt like to see Toure dropped

Agree with you about Bendtner though. I have no idea why AW left Adebayor on the pitch for the whole game...

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Anyway, at this juncture I have decided that the best solution to this issue is to go and get rat arsed.

Took your advice = ouch, now have an 8 hour shift and its all your fault Pepe... :pac:

Royale with Cheese · 28-09-2008 11:55AM

I got rat arsed yesterday. It was fun, better than watching Arsenal lose to Hull anyways.

Man this is depressing.

Pepe LeFrits · 28-09-2008 12:19PM

Also got rat arsed, despite knowing I had to work this morning. It was worth it though.

Frisbee wrote: »

Who do you drop though?

Drop Gallas.

Straight into the bin.

cson · 28-09-2008 01:18PM

It was his fook up against Fulham that cost us as well.

Same thing as yesterday, not bothering to mark his man. I mean, I wouldn't even expect him to win a header against someone the size of Cousin, but at least stick to him and put him under pressure ffs.

keano_afc · 28-09-2008 02:11PM

I'm still in shock. This time last week I was just home from the Reebok and thought, yeah, this is gonna be a good season. We were looking good and resting our bigger players. One week on and its pretty dire. We were unbeaten until December last season and its still September and already we've lost twice. I see somebody mentioned the lack of signings in a previous post, iirc the same person who said previously we'd a big enough squad. Well, we dont. Toure/Gallas needs to be broken up, 4 league goals conceded and 3 of them from corners tells its own story.

Galvasean · 28-09-2008 05:23PM

Adebayor and RvP need to step up their games considerably. They are great men for scoring when the going is good and we are walking over a team, but whenever the going has gotten tough this season they've both been found wanting.
Adebayor misses at least one absolute sitter per game while Van Persie has gotten so selfish, blasting shots with no precision from impossible angles and inevitably missing. I'd be very interested to see RvP's shots on target ratio, and similarly Adebayor's.

amacachi · 28-09-2008 05:27PM

I'd like to see the average distance Van Persie misses his free kicks by.

cson · 28-09-2008 08:21PM

amacachi wrote: »

I'd like to see the average distance Van Persie misses his free kicks by.

I'd like to see his free kicks at least get over the fooking wall.

PHB · 28-09-2008 08:27PM

Personally I wouldn't read too much into, it was just one of those games I thought.

L'prof · 28-09-2008 08:31PM

PHB wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't read too much into, it was just one of those games I thought.

Yeah, but it wasn't just one of those games...it was another one of those games and one of those games that I can see us having plenty more of.

28-09-2008 08:39PM

PHB wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't read too much into, it was just one of those games I thought.

i don't think its a case of that. its a bit more serious from an arsenal point of view. i think teams have copped that arsenal are not able to cope with the aerial threat. against Bolton, Toure didn't win 1 header. Gallas was culpable for the 2 winning goals in the 2 defeated games, as his markers lost him on the respective occasions. the real fact is Arsenal or Arsene haven't addressed this problem which has been evident in the last two or 3 seasons. its very bleak at the moment and because of wenger's stubbornness things will only get bleaker. i think we could well even miss out on 4th this season

Frisbee · 28-09-2008 09:14PM

Adebayor has to be the least clinical striker to ever score 30 goals in a season...

OPENROAD · 28-09-2008 10:04PM

Looks like their will be some changes on Tuesday

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article4842957.ece

Wreck · 29-09-2008 09:09AM

Its not often Wenger is critical of the team in public. Would be delighted to see a change up front, ideally I'd like Bendtner and Vela to start against Porto but I'll settle for one of those. Will be really interesting to see if he changes it up at the back.

yahoo_moe · 29-09-2008 12:54PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Eboue looked for a pass with just the keeper in front of him. That's the sort of thing that will cost Arsenal titles.

That's the one that stuck out for me as well - absolutely shocking. And despite the end result, I thought Theo (who's supposed to provide a more direct threat) took too much out of the ball on his run for the goal, as he did a few more times too.

As for defending, I think I'd almost rather see us concede a penalty than a corner at this stage.

keano_afc · 29-09-2008 09:23PM

Team predictions for tomorrow night? I see Nasri is back and Song is out. Cant really see Nasri starting, maybe Vela on the other wing? reckon he might go with Rvp and Bendtner up top. Cant see the defence being shifted about too much.

Galvasean · 29-09-2008 09:27PM

PHB wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't read too much into, it was just one of those games I thought.

Unfortunate;ly we have far too many of 'those games'. That's why we don't win titles anymore.

Frisbee wrote: »

Adebayor has to be the least clinical striker to ever score 30 goals in a season...

A real world class striker (ie: Fernando Torres) probably would have got 60 goals last season if he got the service Adebayor was getting.

Wreck wrote: »

Its not often Wenger is critical of the team in public. Would be delighted to see a change up front, ideally I'd like Bendtner and Vela to start against Porto but I'll settle for one of those. Will be really interesting to see if he changes it up at the back.

I was hoping to see Vela and/or Bendtner start against Hull. Particularly Bendtner who is the team's in-form striker at the moment.

yahoo_moe · 30-09-2008 08:56AM

Galvasean wrote: »

I was hoping to see Vela and/or Bendtner start against Hull. Particularly Bendtner who is the team's in-form striker at the moment.

I wanted Bendtner and RVP myself but Bendtner had just played Carling Cup on Wednesday so was rested which was fair enough.

Funny thing about Bendtner (and I rate him a lot) is that if you think back to last year, his best performances came early on when he was playing to try and break into the team and prove himself. Then he went off the boil for a bit in the middle part of the season. As I said, I rate him pretty highly but I hope he's not one of those players who only performs out of wounded pride - don't think he is though.

Frisbee · 30-09-2008 10:02AM

I was hoping for Nasri to start but ideally I cant see thaty happening.

Ideal team for me for tonight would be:

Almunia

---Sagna---Gallas*--Toure---Clichy
--Walcott--Fab---Denilson---Nasri---

Vela----Bendtner

*I have Gallas in this team but ideally I'd like to see him dropped for Djourou but I cant see Wenger doing this for fear of upsetting him. He's a world class defender when on his game but his ideas seem a bit bucked up. Drop him for one game even and see if there's a change when he comes back.

But to be honest I'd say we'll probably have Eboue starting ahead of Nasri. With RVP or Ade in ahead of Vela, maybe even both in ahead of Bendtner, hopefully not though...

Pepe LeFrits · 30-09-2008 07:14PM

I'm pissed off with tonight's line-up. Actions speak louder than words and Arsene's actions make it appear that saturday's performance was no big deal.

So far we've had 7 corners and created absolutely nothing from them; they've had 1 and had a shot cleared off the line. How ****ing hard is it to do some work on set pieces?

Pepe LeFrits · 30-09-2008 07:15PM

heh and as I say it, great team goal.

Quazzie · 30-09-2008 07:26PM

Pepe ya forgot the fact that they nearly scored on the counter after one of our corners.

was just about to press post when adebayour scores from a corner(albeit very awkwardly) to shut me right up.

I wonder if we keep posting complaints will they keep scoring?

Pepe LeFrits · 30-09-2008 07:53PM

lol, how did Theo miss that? Looked like he had too much confidence!

Quazzie · 30-09-2008 07:59PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

lol, how did Theo miss that? Looked like he had too much confidence!

Nasri. SNAP!!

AnCapaillMor · 30-09-2008 08:06PM

Goals up on 101greatgoals.com if anyone is matching the match like me.

Quazzie · 30-09-2008 08:18PM

Vela showing some real class again. This boy looks good.

A clean sheet now would make it a real good night in my eyes

Wreck · 30-09-2008 08:18PM

Wreck wrote: »

Its not often Wenger is critical of the team in public. Would be delighted to see no changes up front, ideally I'd like Van Persie and Adebayor to start against Porto because I think they will score at least two goals each.

these aren't the droids you're looking for

L'prof · 30-09-2008 08:57PM

Wreck wrote: »

these aren't the droids you're looking for

Haha, more like this:

Wreck wrote: »

Its not often Wenger is critical of the team in public. Would be delighted to see a change up front, ideally I'd like Bendtner and Vela to start against Porto but I'll settle for one of those. Will be really interesting to see if he changes it up at the back.

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