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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • #1082
    Pepe LeFrits
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    If Vela turns out to be anything at all like Baptista (in terms of quality while at Arsenal) then I'll eat my own poo.

    As I recall, Vela cost $4m, which was about £2.2m at the time. A fair few bob for a fella who was barely 16, but then he had just fired Mexico to the U17 WC title so I guess it wasn’t too much of a gamble. Looks well worth it now!

    I’m loving the Walcott brothers at the mo!


  • #1083
    newbie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,477 ✭✭✭newbie2


    AnCapaillMor wrote: »
    Lets not get things out of hand on vela, remember baptista and anfield.
    vela is a completely different player. i watched him through pre season and saw the entire game the other night. His movement is much better than bapista. he seems to have alot more energy about the place and his finishing is miles better. IMO they are not inn the same league. Vela will be huge. mark my words.


  • #1084
    yahoo_moe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    AnCapaillMor wrote: »
    Lets not get things out of hand on vela, remember baptista and anfield.
    Absolutely we shouldn't get carried away but Baptista never looked that good before or since for Arsenal while Vela's looked good and lively all pre-season too. Plus he wouldn't have missed the peno :D


  • #1085
    Frisbee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,579 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I personally feel that Vela will be at Real Madrid within 3 years and will be getting World Player of the Year nominations.


    I refuse to let that happen.


  • #1086
    leninbenjamin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Draupnir wrote: »
    I personally feel that Vela will be at Real Madrid within 3 years and will be getting World Player of the Year nominations.

    why? has he a Real Madrid connection?

    don't be getting ahead of yourselves lads. Vela still has an awful lot of development to do before he'll be reaching the lofty heights of WPY nominations, particular on the more physical aspects of the game.

    personally, he reminds me Scholes as a youngster, i think he'll end up a playing deeper as he matures. His time playing for Osasuna on the left showed there's much more to his game.


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  • #1087
    yahoo_moe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    On a slightly different note, watched Fever Pitch again last night with my girlfriend who was asking whether or not Mickey Thomas' goal had really happened. Inspired by Emma Thompson getting into the Arsenal thing, she then asked for my favourite Arsenal goals since... so:

    (1) Dennis Bergkamp v Newcastle - my favourite goal of all time bar none,
    from my favourite player of all time bar none. Pure genius from the only man who you KNOW without a shadow of a doubt meant to do it.

    In dutch, but best picture quality by a mile:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_zDqlYJtzA

    (2) Dennis Bergkamp v Leicester - the third goal in one of the great hat-tricks
    (and a dress rehearsal of sorts for the goal he scored for Holland against Argentina in the 98 World Cup). Even apart from the skill, this earned
    Arsenal a point in a 3-3 draw at the start of the 97-98 double-winning season
    and helped Bergkamp take the first 3 spots in Match of the Day's Goal of
    the Month competition, the only time one player has done this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFPJU8LaNfw

    (3) Tony Adams v Everton - the 4th goal of the 4-0 win against Everton that
    sealed the title in 1998. From the captain of the club after his successful
    fightback from alcoholism, including a spell in prison for drink-driving, this gives me the shivers every time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W6ACn-LJkE

    (4) Robert Pires v Villa - not a particularly meaningful goal from what I remember but incredibly skilful, so much so that Andy Gray in commentary started clapping. Plus it made ex-United keeper Peter Schmeichel look VERY silly.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVzSSPB4JA

    (5) Ian Wright v Bolton - can't find a video of this one but part of a hat-trick early in 97-98 season to become the club's then-record goalscorer (before Thierry Henry). Thank Christ he managed to score again after the 178/179 fiasco.

    (6) Thierry Henry v Man Utd - as Andy Gray said on commentary at the time, one of the best goals ever seen at Highbury. United still won the league that year though, otherwise this might be higher.

    http://www.veoh.com/video/v14085543wwNK6Met

    (7) Andy Linighan v Sheffield Wednesday - another one I can't find on video
    but this was my live Michael Thomas moment. Andy Linighan, who did feck all
    else of note in his Arsenal career, with a goal to win the 1993 FA Cup -
    in the last minute of extra time in the replay. Luckily for Linighan, Tony didn't give him the Steve Morrow 'Cup-Winner Special'.

    (8) David Platt v Man Utd - a vital moment in October or so of that 97-98
    season. Arsenal beat defending champions United 3-2 in a true statement of intent. Watched with 3 United fans :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGMYgL7b4Ug

    (9) Thierry Henry v Charlton - unreal cheek from Arsenal's greatest ever
    goalscorer at the absolute peak of his skills.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccAQWeeUsZ0&feature=related

    (10) Robin van Persie v Inter Milan - only a preseason friendly (otherwise
    this'd maybe be higher) but well worth a place on the list. Like the first
    goal, might not look much straight away but what he does with his foot is
    almost unnatural. Here it is in good quality slo-mo:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsbLjpAhiS0&feature=related

    (11) Alan Smith v Parma - after winning both domestic cups in 1993, Arsenal
    won the European Cup-Winners' Cup in 1994. 1-0 in the final against Parma,
    very George Graham. We won't talk about what happened when they got to the final again in 1995.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Xis15i2Yc

    (12) Thierry Henry v Liverpool - phenomenal pace and skill even if the intensity on his face after he scores kind of scares me. Part of a really important win towards the end of the 'Invincibles' season when I was beginning to think we'd go unbeaten but come second in the league.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3wjkse0tA&feature=related

    And because I was at the game (bottom left corner of the screen as you look!), I'm also going to include another goal he got against Liverpool. Unreal pace.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL12GItKeTw


    Honourable mentions also go to two 'nearly moments':

    (1) Sol Campbell's header to put Arsenal ahead in the 2006 Champions League
    final. Went to Paris with my Arsenal-supporting brothers for this but were priced out of tickets. Pretty quiet trip home the next day after the loss.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K3v9yuYP2g

    (2) Emmanuel Adebayor's goal in last season's Champions League quarter-final
    against Liverpool. Just for Theo Walcott's run - incredible.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShSm5fe2DEg

    And a bit of light relief from the master to finish:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP4O37fQgs8


  • #1088
    DenMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,469 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Thanks mate, some great memories there, thats for sure. Here is another.

    RVP against Charlton Athletic. Amazing technique and balance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3HcdvHbtN4


  • #1089
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Oh God I miss Robert Pires. Does anybody remember his goal against Southampton, after Arsenal had blown the league in 02/03. Himself and Pennant (shudder) got hat tricks in a 6-1 win.

    It was a cracking goal but nobody ever remembers it because of the irrelevance of the game.


  • #1090
    yahoo_moe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    Oh God I miss Robert Pires. Does anybody remember his goal against Southampton, after Arsenal had blown the league in 02/03. Himself and Pennant (shudder) got hat tricks in a 6-1 win.
    Yeah, class strike. Forgot that was the same game as the Pennant hat-trick though - I remember vaguely thinking that Pennant might finally make something of himself after that :o

    Worst thing about that win was the struggle 3 weeks later to beat them in the Cup final.


  • #1091
    AnCapaillMor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    This wright classic. Quality is'nt great. Remember watching it in the pub and being absolutely dumbfounded.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yjyWAexQq4

    Or this limpar one in the 4-0 trouncing of the pool.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6mW43iDVZY

    Pires villa goal was pretty important it kept us ahead of united, beautiful especially because it was schmeichael that he did it to.


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  • #1092
    OPENROAD
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    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    (1) Sol Campbell's header to put Arsenal ahead in the 2006 Champions League
    final. Went to Paris with my Arsenal-supporting brothers for this but were priced out of tickets. Pretty quiet trip home the next day after the loss.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K3v9yuYP2g

    Was lucky enough to be there and with a ticket from the club, tickets were really gold dust on the day, heard of tickets changing for mad sums. I had to collect my ticket at the stadium earlier in the day and am glad I bought a match programme as they were all sold out well before kick off, people were buying them by the box. Great goal by Sol, I really thought we would hang on, my memory of the night was the pouring rain, thunder and lightning. Great trip to Paris that I will never forget, happy days :)


  • #1093
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,608 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Jesus, I'd forgotten how bad Almunia was for both goals...

    We really should have won it, Titi was through on Valdes at least twice iirc during the match.


  • #1094
    Chong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    Morning Arsenal fans.

    Please support http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055385950&page=2, its for pick the Boards Team of the season.

    The reason I am calling upon you guys is Marc Overmars Arsenal legend has returned to play for Go Ahead Eagles.

    Go Ahead Eagles is our Nominee.



    Relive the glory days of Overmars.


  • #1095
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,475 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Ha, that's mad. He was a legend, albeit a brief one at Arsenal.

    Wasn't gonna bother with that adopt a team thread but I'll vote for team Overmars now.


  • #1096
    Chong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    Legend Royale with Cheese!!

    Go Eagles, and Go Team OVERMARS.


  • #1097
    Evil_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    Ok I now also support the Go Ahead Eagles
    Go Eagles !!

    ** added to sig **


  • #1098
    Pepe LeFrits
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Ah, good old Marc Overmars.


  • #1099
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,147 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I think it's fair to say after the performance today against hull that it accurate to state that Arsenal cannot finish off a game and cannot handle pressure put on them by any kind of physical side. It might sound a bit knee jerk to say such a thing after being heaping out so much praise in midweek for their drubbing of sheff utd but in the premiership, our bread and butter, the above statement is more than justified. It reminded me of a statement about the great Dennis Bergkamp, form is temporary but class is permanent. With the exception of Cesc who have we got that is world class. We have great prospects coming through but that didn''t help us today against hull. I may be blinded by a mixture of embarressment and anger ATM but is it acceptable to ask us, the fans, to endure such times in the hope that these prospects flourish.

    I know there will be some that state it's the performance that counts, and we did pretty much dominate against Hull but we didn't get the result. At this stage I'd take a few scrappy wins over some dominating defeats. We've gone too far from the 1-0 to the Arsenal.


  • #1100
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,147 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I think it's fair to say after the performance today against hull that it accurate to state that Arsenal cannot finish off a game and cannot handle pressure put on them by any kind of physical side. It might sound a bit knee jerk to say such a thing after being heaping out so much praise in midweek for their drubbing of sheff utd but in the premiership, our bread and butter, the above statement is more than justified. It reminded me of a statement about the great Dennis Bergkamp, form is temporary but class is permanent. With the exception of Cesc who have we got that is world class. We have great prospects coming through but that didn''t help us today against hull. I may be blinded by a mixture of embarressment and anger ATM but is it acceptable to ask us, the fans, to endure such times in the hope that these prospects flourish.

    I know there will be some that state it's the performance that counts, and we did pretty much dominate against Hull but we didn't get the result. At this stage I'd take a few scrappy wins over some dominating defeats. We've gone too far from the 1-0 to the Arsenal.


  • #1101
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,902 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    DenMan wrote: »
    Thanks mate, some great memories there, thats for sure. Here is another.

    RVP against Charlton Athletic. Amazing technique and balance.

    He shinned it - clearly came off his shin.


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  • #1102
    Pepe LeFrits
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    That was an embarrassment to the club. Fair play to Hull though who put in a heroic performance.

    Arsene was stubborn again in the transfer market and it is costing us again. Some things, you cannot just fix 'internally'. Gallas and Toure will never be a strong CB pairing. That's the third goal already we've conceded from a corner this season, and we've given away very few corners. Johan Djourou has been our best CB so far this season; why is he on the bench?

    Likewise Nicklas Bendtner has been our best striker this season, why is he on the bench too?

    Furthermore today highlighted the problem we had in our midfield last season, and still have this season. Nasri has replaced Hleb which is fine by me, but then when Nasri gets injured - far too much creative pressure is put on Cesc. If Rosicky was about that might not be the case but then is Rosicky ever going to be about. It's not like this is any kind of surprise.

    We have a very easy opening run of fixtures and we've already lost twice. Not good enough.


  • #1103
    Pepe LeFrits
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    Anyway, at this juncture I have decided that the best solution to this issue is to go and get rat arsed.


  • #1104
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Today's loss was a huge disappointment but so typical. Top of the league, mess up against a small team and lose it.
    Nobody to blame but ourselves. We should have put the game to bed well before Geovanni's wonder strike brought Hull back to life. Add in Gallas' crossbar header and the brilliant save from Fabregas' long range effort and it simply wasn't Arsenal's day.


  • #1105
    cson
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    Forgive me Galvasean, but I just don't buy into this "wasn't to be our day" shoite.

    We're a top 4 club in the Premier League, we should be beating the likes of Hull City even if it isn't our day period.


  • #1106
    OPENROAD
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    Roll on Tuesday night imo.


  • #1107
    AnCapaillMor
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    All my fault i made adebayor captain in the fantasy footy. No intention of watching this game at all. It is'nt our day happens too many times. and amen to getting rat arsed.


  • #1108
    Fuzzy_Dunlop
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    Bleh

    Dunno what happened really. Just didn't seem like too much of a spark. Great defending from Hull on all those crosses and corners.

    Fabregas and van Persie were our best players imo, although van Persie could have done better with some of the half chances that came his way, could have scored a cracker right at the end.

    As Pepe said, we're really missing Nasri and Rosicky to add to the creative spark.I thought Walcott really made a balls of a lot of decisions today, was the biggest culprit of dawdling and trying to over play it. Adebayor was no great shakes and Bendtner would have been the right option given his recent form. All in all, a bit **** really!


  • #1109
    Fenix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Fenix


    I honestly don't think that any team in the premiership can go into a league clash and 'expect' 3 points. Be it Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and to a lesser extent (dig;)) Liverpool. Credit where credit is due, well done to Hull, and the likes of Stoke. No such thing as an easy league win!

    As a Man utd fan I can compare feelings. I didn’t see the match today but from reading the above posts, i can understand a lot of those 'one of those days' sentiments. I learned a long time ago not to write off AW and his shrewdness in the market once again was for all to see midweek while embarrassing one of the championships hopefuls!

    Maybe I'm the only one, but i honestly rank the gooners as bigger league rivals than Chelski or 'pool. I've no doubt Arsenal will bounce back with a vengeance and, well, Fergie said it himself, "A Man Utd Chelsea match will never compare to a Man Utd Arsenal game" or something along those lines ! Can't wait to see it, always the highlight of the season for me !


  • #1110
    cson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,608 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Lads, I cannot understand those sentiments at all.

    You want to win the Premiership you have to bully the smaller teams. When Mourinho was at Chelsea they were great at it. The amount of 4-0 wins against the small teams they got was unbelieveable. Arsenal were 1/5 to win this today for a reason; they should comfortably be beating the likes of Hull City off the park.


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  • #1111
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    Pepe LeFrits wrote: »
    That was an embarrassment to the club. Fair play to Hull though who put in a heroic performance.

    Arsene was stubborn again in the transfer market and it is costing us again. Some things, you cannot just fix 'internally'. Gallas and Toure will never be a strong CB pairing. That's the third goal already we've conceded from a corner this season, and we've given away very few corners. Johan Djourou has been our best CB so far this season; why is he on the bench?


    We have a very easy opening run of fixtures and we've already lost twice. Not good enough.

    quite right. to be fair i don't think we lack in attack but at centre back mostly. both gallas and toure are crap. i too felt djourou should be playing and also that kompany should have been bought or someone adequate.


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