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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • #2552
    MementoMori
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    Karmafaerie wrote: »
    It won't bring him back sooner.
    Even if he can't play in the 3rd/4th place play off, he'd still be staying for the medal ceremony.

    Do you think? I can see him being on the next flight out of there. I would be very surprised if he hung around for a poxy medal ceremony


  • #2553
    SantryRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    MementoMori wrote: »
    Do you think? I can see him being on the next flight out of there. I would be very surprised if he hung around for a poxy medal ceremony

    Eh, it's the Olympics? Wouldn't call it poxy.


  • #2554
    meditraitor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Karmafaerie wrote: »
    It won't bring him back sooner.
    Even if he can't play in the 3rd/4th place play off, he'd still be staying for the medal ceremony.

    Never thought about that.... fuck and fuck again. As long as he is back and raring to go for the 31st(villa need a good wiping for not selling us their captain on the cheap) this month and the 13th against that lot (we should know by then if we are challengers)


  • #2555
    missingtime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    do you think the amount of jerseys sold this summer dictates rafa budget?:confused:

    even if it did, i'd take a few more 4th place finishes to get rid of these yanks tbh.

    No...of course its entirely different. But I wouldn't judge anyone buying merchandise.

    I think any more 4th place finishes would see the end of Rafa as long as the americans are there.


  • #2556
    Karmafaerie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    MementoMori wrote: »
    Do you think? I can see him being on the next flight out of there. I would be very surprised if he hung around for a poxy medal ceremony

    Olympic football is second only to the World cup in South America.

    It means a lot more to them than us.


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  • #2557
    MementoMori
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭MementoMori


    SantryRed wrote: »
    Eh, it's the Olympics? Wouldn't call it poxy.

    I'm not calling the Olympics poxy - I'm calling the medal ceremony poxy and that's in the sense of looking at it from Lucas's point of view. I'm sure Masch will be jumping around like a loon if they do pick up the gold.

    Can imagine the mood in the Brazil camp being poisionous and not a happy place to be.

    If you were in Lucas's boots, would you be hanging around to watch a game you can't play in, for the possibility of maybe getting a medal your entire country will see as a massive failure, while watching your arch-rivals celebrating or would you be packing your bags saying "my boss rafa wants me back" If I was Lucas I'd be in the taxi to the airport at the moment. Only my opinion but I would be very disappointed if he was still faffing around in China at the weekend.


  • #2558
    Karmafaerie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    I bought the away jersey cause I had a gift voucher and don't wear any other kinda sports clothes
    (Already have my Limerick and Munster jerseys!:p)

    I ordered the home and European strip off Jomajung the other day.


  • #2559
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,569 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Karmafaerie wrote: »
    So I say that he's only played once that I can think of, and you say that I'm wrong by listing one time he played!

    You see what I'm getting at?!!

    Well done.

    And good job on ignoring the fact that I pointed out he came on as an 18 year old sub against us 6 years ago, but you can use that to tell us how "crap" he is.

    You must have a great memory if you can remember how a young 18 year sub played for 20 or so minutes in a game 6 years ago!

    Well done!


    Would you use the same argument for his appearances in the World Cup? or performances with Basle? I only listed the more likely games you may have seen him in since you obviously can not fathom someone watching a game you didn't.

    Why are you using the example of him as an 18 year old? Look I am not going to argue about it anymore. I have seen him play enough times to have an opinion, Im sure lots of people have formed opinions on players they watched alot less than 15 games. I think he will be playing in insignificant games like the Carling Cup.

    You generally don't get world beaters for free.


  • #2560
    Karmafaerie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    noodler wrote: »
    Would you use the same argument for his appearances in the World Cup? or performances with Basle? I only listed the more likely games you may have seen him in since you obviously can not fathom someone watching a game you didn't.

    Why are you using the example of him as an 18 year old? Look I am not going to argue about it anymore. I have seen him play enough times to have an opinion, Im sure lots of people have formed opinions on players they watched alot less than 15 games. I think he will be playing in insignificant games like the Carling Cup.

    You generally don't get world beaters for free.

    You really are good at ignoring/dodging questions.

    And name one person here who said that he was a world beater?

    So by your logic, anyone who isn't world class, is "crap", to use your parlance!

    Damn.
    That's a lot of crap players right there!


  • #2561
    Chardee MacDennis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    noodler wrote: »
    You generally don't get world beaters for free.

    Michael Ballack is a world beater and was free! Anway Degen is back up to Arbeloa and offers more in attack so i dont see the problem here.


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  • #2562
    noodler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,569 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Karmafaerie wrote: »
    You really are good at ignoring/dodging questions.

    And name one person here who said that he was a world beater?

    So by your logic, anyone who isn't world class, is "crap", to use your parlance!

    Damn.
    That's a lot of crap players right there!

    I see you said he played against Ireland once, I misread it as none. Is that what you mean by dodgeing questions?

    Anyway don't argue over the semantics of a player. I said he was crap, I think we all recognise it as a relative term. People could qaualify every opinion on a player with "for a professional footballer if you like". I think it is implied though.


  • #2563
    meditraitor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    I love Liverpool FC, x





























    2000th post so I thought Id say something worthwhile


  • #2564
    ibh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭ibh


    Karmafaerie wrote: »
    He's not as good as some make out.

    No player is world class in a lower league untill they're 27.

    Yea but the Russian league is slightly different in that it has had a lot of money pumped into it in the last few years, paying players like Arseshaving a sh!itload of cash to stay in the league.

    Heard the comment during the Euros that it could only happen in Russia..

    Saw a good bit of him last year with Zenit and then went to the Euros and saw him there. He was unbelievable. The Spain game was a once off, totally off the pace. Every other game, he dominated.


  • #2565
    zAbbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    Probably best if he's judged on his performances for us.

    Steve Finnan was 'crap' in his first season


  • #2566
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,037 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Tusky wrote: »
    Babel.. ?
    I actually like watching Babel but I don't think that he is what Liverpool need on the left. He comes inside far too often and his crossing leaves a lot to be desired, and thats when he does cross, he is more likely to look for a 1 2 than cross. Liverpool need width imo and thats why I see Downing as the perfect player for them.


  • #2567
    ibh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭ibh


    zAbbo wrote: »
    Probably best if he's judged on his performances for us.

    Steve Finnan was 'crap' in his first season

    Was he?? I thought he slotted in nicely when he moved?? He was a very good / underrated player for us. Got more recognition this side of the water cause he's Irish, very underrated by most pool fans.


  • #2568
    Racing Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Racing Flat


    Lucas sent off for fouling Mascherano!


  • #2569
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    That happened about 2 hours back! (its not live on RTE) Apparently Lucas did well with his defensive duties.

    Mike.


  • #2570
    taidghbaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭taidghbaby


    mike65 wrote: »
    That happened about 2 hours back! (its not live on RTE) Apparently Lucas did well with his defensive duties.

    Mike.
    saw bits and pieces of!
    lucas looks slow and for a brazilian not overly comfortable on the ball again!

    darragh maloney just said it was a terrible challenge too!


  • #2571
    gixerfixer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    missingtime wrote: »
    Thats true. I just find it weird when Rafa he cant get the money to buy players and then fans boycott merchandise.

    The reason is if dumb and dumber see that there is no money to be made from the club they will sell on to D.I.C. and yes before you ask D.I.C. will be in it to make money but they are not clowns like Hicks and Gillett.They realise that you have to spend big to be successful in the premiership.From a personal standpoint i'd rather see the club linger in a mid table positon for a couple of years if it will rid us of the two yanks.


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  • #2572
    pesireland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭pesireland


    ibh wrote: »
    Was he?? I thought he slotted in nicely when he moved?? He was a very good / underrated player for us. Got more recognition this side of the water cause he's Irish, very underrated by most pool fans.

    couldn't agree more with you finnan has been underrated for years.


  • #2573
    GBX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Skysports.com reporting Riera deal could be back on with Liverpool favourites to land him.
    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_4011751,00.html


  • #2574
    zAbbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    ibh wrote: »
    Was he?? I thought he slotted in nicely when he moved?? He was a very good / underrated player for us. Got more recognition this side of the water cause he's Irish, very underrated by most pool fans.

    Finnan was decidely average during his first year, and came on the back of being recognised as the best right back in the league.

    His performance was so lacking, that when Rafa came in, he immediately tried to strengthen the RB slot with Joesemi (heh), but he was simply amazing in Rafa's first two years.

    He's still quality, and I'd say he's very much rated by Liverpool fans, if not under-rated elsewhere.


  • #2575
    Tusky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,096 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I rate Finnan, I just dont think theres room for 3 right backs in the team. Seeing as Degen has just been bought and Arbeloa is probably first choice at this stage, it has to be Finnan to go.


  • #2576
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,037 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The one thing about Finnan is that he can cover either side.


  • #2577
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,451 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    So can Arbeloa


  • #2578
    pesireland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭pesireland


    NekkidBibleMan wrote: »
    So can Arbeloa

    damn beat me to it :D


  • #2579
    taidghbaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭taidghbaby


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The one thing about Finnan is that he can cover either side.
    he can put in good crosses...arbeloa on the other hand :rolleyes:


  • #2580
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,451 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    So can Degen, by all accounts.

    Finnan is a solid defender, and he offers decent width in attack. In my book, Arbeloa is stronger defensively and can cover more positions, and Degen has been brought in ostensibly to provide width when we go forward. Take into account Finnan's age, and it's fair enough to say that he's going to be shown the door.


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  • #2581
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Great! We have an ambidextrous set of average right backs.

    Mike.


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