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B*tch, fu*k, cu*t, sh*t and children?

  • 01-08-2008 03:05PM
    #1
    slipss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭


    Ok I was just reading the censorship on tv thread there and i figured i'd start this one as its something I've always wondered about. That being what exactly is the big deal with the words above and this mindset of "we have to shield children from them" that some people have. It is prevalent everywhere, tv, cinema, radio, literature, even the internet (hence the **'s ain the thread title). I'm just curious as to wether people here agree that children shouldn't see, hear, read these words and what exactly to you think the dire consequences of a nine year old hearing the word sh1t is going to be? "little billy was such a good boy, then one day he watched an episode of Hells Kitchen when his mammy was distracted and was so distraught he murdered his siblings with a cabbage"

    (poll coming)

    Do you think children need to be protected from "swearing" 95 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    53% 51 votes
    Go fukk yourself ya cunnt or I'll ram an Atari Jaguar up your fukking arse
    46% 44 votes


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Comments

  • #2
    suckslikeafox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭suckslikeafox


    Was watching paramount comedy this morning and they took the word ass out of scrubs...ridiculous


  • #3
    dh2007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭dh2007


    I find the cu*t word really offensive and think no one should be subjected to hearing it. Let alone children


  • #4
    Solarball10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Solarball10


    C*nt is the worst ever. If I ever heard a child saying it I think I'd smack 'em...mind you, where did they pick it up...


  • #5
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    dh2007 wrote: »
    I find the cu*t word really offensive and think no one should be subjected to hearing it. Let alone children

    Why? It's just a word.


  • #6
    slipss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    dh2007 wrote: »
    I find the cu*t word really offensive and think no one should be subjected to hearing it. Let alone children

    out of curiosity are you female?


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  • #7
    milod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 757 ✭✭✭milod


    ozzyoh wrote: »
    C*nt is the worst ever. If I ever heard a child saying it I think I'd smack 'em...mind you, where did they pick it up...

    Ah, er, that was probably me, if they live in Inchicore.

    "Gerrowadahgarden! yiz little cnuts..."


  • #8
    Seonad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭Seonad


    They probably wouldn't use the words so much if less of a fuss was made over them..

    My own mother still frowns when she hears me say cr?p:rolleyes:


  • #9
    Solarball10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Solarball10


    Wertz wrote: »
    Why? It's just a word.

    A word that sounds terrible!


  • #10
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I'd like to think that its possible to raise children at home without subjecting them and anyone else to stream of explitives. Its just good manners. But as the lower orders on TV swear like chavs and the Irish like to swear anyway (esp jokey versions like Feck and Arse) its an uphill battle.

    Mike.


  • #11
    SunnyP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭SunnyP


    ozzyoh wrote: »
    C*nt is the worst ever. If I ever heard a child saying it I think I'd smack 'em...mind you, where did they pick it up...

    I agree I think its a vile word whethar spoken by adults or children


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  • #12
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    There is a certain harshness about "c*nt". It just seems aggressive and spiteful. If I had a child, I wouldn't want him to use it. Society has deemed what's acceptable and what isn't. I guess we need to accept it.


  • #13
    dade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭dade


    dh2007 wrote: »
    I find the cu*t word really offensive and think no one should be subjected to hearing it. Let alone children

    so if someone told you to c*nt off you'd be doubly offended?

    on topic they'll hear it anyway, I'm always getting grief for my language be it in work or by the missus. my answer to her was "you had no problem with my tongue before why now ;)"


  • #14
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I think the obvious answer is that they are considered to be vulgar words. If children hear them they will use them, either because they feel it is acceptable or for shock value. I reckon yours reason for posting those words as a subject is for shock value?


  • #15
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I think c*nt is a great word but not to be overused - and it does sound worse coming from women (sorry about that not being PC). And I don't like it being stuck into every single sentence - by either gender.

    If I heard a child saying it... ooh, that would be a pretty nasty thing to hear.

    Yeah, lol at how MTV blanks out "ass", "crap" and "piss" at 1am but SHOWS plenty of female ass at 1pm...


  • #16
    dh2007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭dh2007


    Wertz wrote: »
    Why? It's just a word.

    I don't really know! probably because it refers to genitalia. yet I don't find f*ck nearly as offensive...probably because I'm more sanitised to the word f*ck cos you hear it all the time.


  • #17
    Solarball10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Solarball10


    milod wrote: »
    Ah, er, that was probably me, if they live in Inchicore.

    "Gerrowadahgarden! yiz little cnuts..."

    Lol! Wouldn't "feckers" have sufficed? I admit it...I've often used the word...when I REALLY wanna rile someone up..."b@stard" "f*cker" won't do it, for some reason "c*nt" works wonders everytime....but I only use it in extreme cases!! :D


  • #18
    hussey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    dh2007 wrote: »
    I find the cuut word really offensive and think no one should be subjected to hearing it. Let alone children
    ozzyoh wrote: »
    Cunt is the worst ever. If I ever heard a child saying it I think I'd smack 'em...mind you, where did they pick it up...

    I don't understand why this is a taboo word, I mean it's a vagina. I don't see how this is above any other genitalia reference e.g. cock, twat etc


  • #19
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Agree with Dudess cunt is a great word, and unlike most swear words it can still shock or provoke semi polite company. I don't think theres any need to protect children from words of any kind really.


  • #20
    Stercus Accidit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Why is there even a cursing filter on boards?

    I mean, a kid for some reason reads boards, sees the odd curse, whats the harm, they probably wouldn't even care.

    In reality as it stands, child on the internet, all they have to do is use google image search to be subjected to filth, the ammount of ****e that is on the net is hug, why bother filtering boards.

    At least make it an option to turn it off maybe, its silly, I can still say fuck but I have to be sneaky.

    Also little johny surely can read fcuk and get it half right.

    I just don't see the point.


  • #21
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    ozzyoh wrote: »
    C*nt is the worst ever. If I ever heard a child saying it I think I'd smack 'em...mind you, where did they pick it up...

    I'm sure some cúnt just said it without thinking.


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  • #22
    LadyJ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    I love the word "c*nt". I really do. It's a good juicy word and the only word that satisfies me when I'm really pissed off about something / at someone. However, I don't find "bad language" offensive in any way. Sticks and stones tbh.

    If I had kids, I wouldn't like them to curse all the time. I would hope that they would be intelligent enough to be able to get a point across without swearing during every sentence. However, I would also hope that they would be intelligent enough to know that by making a big deal out of a word, like "c*nt" for example (or "Voldamort" for all the HP fans) it only increases the power of that word. I wouldn't like any word to make them squirm.


  • #23
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    The Americanisation of cunt has lead to it's downfall here.
    Before everyone was a cunt. A Cheeky cunt, a lucky cunt, a shower of right cunts, and it was all meant in a jovial and polite manner.
    Then all of a sudden, them Republican right wing fellas from across the ocean start saying "Oh noes! It be offensive to ladies!" and because of the importing of crappy american tv and crappy american family values here we suddenly think cunt is a terrible word.
    It isnt.
    Get over it.
    I'm taking cunt back.
    Wow. I wonder if this is the most cunts ever in one post in AH.


  • #24
    TequilaMockingBird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    I was at a BBQ last week with both adults and kids, and the 4 year old from the neighbouring house hung out his window (scarily far) and shouted down "Your all f***ing c*nts, you b*stards."

    That's why kids shouldn't hear these words. He is 4 ffs. It was very sad. That's how his mother addresses him so its not his fault, but talk about an ASBO waiting to happen...


  • #25
    slipss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    sueme wrote: »
    I was at a BBQ last week with both adults and kids, and the 4 year old from the neighbouring house hung out his window (scarily far) and shouted down "Your all f***ing c*nts, you b*stards."

    That's why kids shouldn't hear these words. He is 4 ffs. It was very sad. That's how his mother addresses him so its not his fault, but talk about an ASBO waiting to happen...

    Bah, any of you at that barbeque that didn't laugh when that happened have no soul.


  • #26
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    Wow. I wonder if this is the most cunts ever in one post in AH.

    Nah, that'll be when someone multiquotes Tha Gopha' and degsy at the same time.

    sueme wrote: »
    I was at a BBQ last week with both adults and kids, and the 4 year old from the neighbouring house hung out his window (scarily far) and shouted down "Your all f***ing c*nts, you b*stards."

    Well you were, havin' a BBQ without inviting him. You should be ashamed of yourself.


    Ya cunt.....


  • #27
    OK-Cancel-Apply
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭OK-Cancel-Apply


    Like it or not, people are going to judge the character of your children in later life by the words they use and the way they speak. To some people, excessive swearing represents a lack of verbal ability, and shows that the person doesn't have the linguistic means to express themselves properly. It's not a good habit to have.

    Yes, the F word is just a word, but words do have meaning - that's why we have language in the first place. Of course we all swear from time to time, but I find the excessive use of swear words as common interjections to be a bit tawdry TBH.


  • #28
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I turned out alright... Let the little c*nts fend for themselves.


  • #29
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,300 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I don't know what the big deal is tbh, they're just words. C8nt is a little more extreme than the others it seems, but that's just a taboo. As for protecting kids, I know for a fact that with the above exception, my 7yo cousin knows just about every curseword under the sun, and he'll point it out, loudly, if he hears anyone using them. But he's clever enough not to use them himself - hearing them again on TV won't change the fact that his dad will burn his PS2 ;)

    Obviously lots of cursing on TV is not to be encouraged for kids (don't sit them in front of south park etc), but the odd time in general TV viewing really won't hurt for the majority of sensible kids. They WILL pick it up somewhere else by accident.
    sueme wrote: »
    That's how his mother addresses him so its not his fault

    Tbph that's the mother's fault - she should be publicly FLOGGED if she calls her son that.


  • #30
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    The Americanisation of cunt has lead to it's downfall here.
    Before everyone was a cunt. A Cheeky cunt, a lucky cunt, a shower of right cunts, and it was all meant in a jovial and polite manner.
    Then all of a sudden, them Republican right wing fellas from across the ocean start saying "Oh noes! It be offensive to ladies!" and because of the importing of crappy american tv and crappy american family values here we suddenly think cunt is a terrible word.
    It isnt.
    Get over it.
    I'm taking cunt back.
    Wow. I wonder if this is the most cunts ever in one post in AH.

    Yeah seriously...I use cúnt as a term of endearment, but hardly ever in a vengeful or intentionally insulting way...it was only when I was in the 'States that it was pointed out to me (several times lol). Additionally I would never use it as a term for female genitalia...

    As for kids swearing? Come round my way some time...the kids could teach me a thing or two about swearing...it only takes for one to hear it and they'll be out in the playground or street passing it on...TV is as much to blame as loose lipped parents IMO...but again like I said above, they're all just words...when kids see the shock value and the "coolness" using them gets them they use it all the more...often the actual meanings are way over their heads.


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  • #31
    Tippex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Tippex


    I don't agree that kids should be shielded from the words.

    However it is up to the parents to ensure that it is not acceptable to use them.
    I think if you go out of your way to shield them it will just make it a much bigger deal for them when they do hear them etc.

    So its just a case of common sense. I curse like a trouper but both my 15 yr old and 6 yr olds know not to use them (I'm not naive enough to think they don't do it when out playing or with their friends).

    Its at the stage where my 6 yr old pulls the 15 yr old up for saying cr@p or @rse.


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