Any garda checkpoints out today?

Tigger · 02-07-2008 04:52PM

dfx- wrote: »

6-MAM doesn't last very long though either.

On topic, I couldn't give a ****e about Provisional Licences clampdowns. I'd feel safer being driven by a new Provisional Licence holder with Peter Sutcliffe in the back at 150kph towards a wall than I do walking the street.

Thats the point.

The tests need to be for whether a person is under the influence of drugs, not whether they take drugs.

ojewriej · 02-07-2008 06:54PM

Tigger wrote: »

i base it on a lot of things

none of which i care to substanstiate here as its would be pointless and i'm hungry

i believe that the traffic corp will be used to enforce this crackdown

you don't thats your issue

Whether there will be a clampdown or not, is one issue.

Implying, or rather stating that Traffic Corps is not a real police, is another.

And since we are quoting:

As one senior member of the garda traffic corps explained: "There have been no specific instructions to come down in any way heavy on anybody. If they haven't got a qualified driver with them they won't be fined on the spot, but they are liable to be prosecuted and brought to court.

But, he said, "it's down to the individual garda's discretion and it will generally be people who have been misbehaving who will end up in court. If people are driving at the correct speed, then they are not going to be drawing attention to themselves."

And he confirmed no checkpoints will be set up to target unaccompanied learner drivers.

"Technically you are committing an offence by doing it, but we haven't received a directive to go out and hammer everybody. There won't be specific checkpoints set up to target these people. It's all up to the individual guard. He could just simply tell the person to get a qualified driver to come down and escort them home."

Source

The Artist · 02-07-2008 09:22PM

i was talking to a mate of mines story this.
This fella is L driver and he always takes his father(full Licence holder) to the pub every weekend.
The father drinks till pissed and the son doesnt drink.
When the times up in the pub,the son drives his father who is legless home.
What would happen if the son gets stopped by the guards?
The father has full licence(pissed) and son only has provisional licence.
????

kerry4sam · 02-07-2008 09:29PM

Alan Ford wrote: »

i was talking to a mate of mines story this.
This fella is L driver and he always takes his father(full Licence holder) to the pub every weekend.
The father drinks till pissed and the son doesnt drink.
When the times up in the pub,the son drives his father who is legless home.
What would happen if the son gets stopped by the guards?
The father has full licence(pissed) and son only has provisional licence.
????

That is actually quite frequent and is an interesting situation ... I mean the whole point of having the full-licence holder in the car is to be able to take over driving should the need arise for whatever reason ...

tony71187 · 02-07-2008 09:30PM

with d new law brought in, a drunken full licence holder accompaning a provisional is not sufficent and he could be prosecuted,but it would take a faily harsh guard to summons him i reckon

Wishbone Ash · 02-07-2008 09:32PM

Alan Ford wrote: »

i was talking to a mate of mines story this.
This fella is L driver and he always takes his father(full Licence holder) to the pub every weekend.
The father drinks till pissed and the son doesnt drink.
When the times up in the pub,the son drives his father who is legless home.
What would happen if the son gets stopped by the guards?
The father has full licence(pissed) and son only has provisional licence.
????

The son will be deemed to be driving unaccompanied.

kerry4sam wrote: »

the whole point of having the full-licence holder in the car is to be able to take over driving should the need arise for whatever reason ...

That is not correct. There is no requirement that the accompanied driver be insured to drive the vehicle in question.

T.G Catter · 02-07-2008 10:08PM

I am completely disillusioned with the whole driving test system and to be honest completely broke from it too with lessons, fuel and application fees.

I have failed a total of 3 times now in Wexford Town/Enniscorthy.

I was only driving a few months first time to be fair and was expected. Second time was by a POLISH TESTER in Enniscorthy, who failed me by 1 mark, marked so very very unfairly, plus he made me wait an extra 10 minutes in the test centre while he spoke to his mates in Poland.

3rd time was very hot Saturday in Wexford, my passenger window is broken and won't open and he was very very slow to give me signal and had no idea of Wexford town in general as he was a Dub. So most likely pissed off he couldn't get back to the kids in the holiday home to hit Curracloe beach.

All I can do now is apply again. I need my car. I am a good driver I have never had an accident in all my 4 years driving. I am not danger on the road, compared to the moron boy racers I meet daily driving on my side of the road or speeding.
I drive on the on dangerous country roads and then get judged on driving on narrow streets in towns on one occasion.

02-07-2008 10:21PM

I didn't see any checkpoints today, but did see two drivers with "L" plates driving unaccompanied (both of African appearance).

Make of that what you like! To me it appears that those that have left the plates up, do not watch the news or read the papers.

DenMan · 02-07-2008 10:25PM

Pretty quiet around the Sligo area, a couple of squad cars rolled by flexing their muscles and two guys on bikes, pretty much the ordinary considering the situation, whats it like elsewhere?

xzanti · 03-07-2008 09:07AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I didn't see any checkpoints today, but did see two drivers with "L" plates driving unaccompanied (both of African appearance).

Make of that what you like! To me it appears that those that have left the plates up, do not watch the news or read the papers.

Yeah there's a family of African origin across the road from me and they have been happily coming and going, sporting their L plates for the past 2 days, unaccompanied... Guess they don't watch the news either..

TheNog · 03-07-2008 10:04AM

Alan Ford wrote: »

This fella is L driver and he always takes his father(full Licence holder) to the pub every weekend.
The father drinks till pissed and the son doesnt drink.
When the times up in the pub,the son drives his father who is legless home.
What would happen if the son gets stopped by the guards?
The father has full licence(pissed) and son only has provisional licence.
????

True the son is breaking the law for not having a sober full licenced driver with him but think of the alternative.

Which is more dangerous? Drunk driving or provisional driver on his own?

If I was to stop him I'd say on your way home cos using common sense it is better than having someone drunk driving.

Now that the provisional/learning permit issue has been or at least is being sorted I predict that a reform of the full licenced drivers is on the cards too. I would like to see full licenced drivers being re-tested say every 5 or ten years and if they fail the test, they will be re-issued with a learner permit. Those who are disqualified from driving for whatever reason should be made reapply for a learner permit and resit their driving test. It may be harsh and some may lose their jobs but there has to be a real bite to losing your licence rather than the inconvience of losing your licence for 6 months to 4 years

snowy2008 · 04-07-2008 09:27AM

I need to drive from galway to dublin for the august bank holiday, do u think there might be checkpoints set up? i took down my l plates and im just chancing my arm, i still cant believe my tester called iun sick and there was no one to cover him, unreal!!!!!! how they expect to get thru that back log is beyond me

sam34 · 04-07-2008 09:36AM

teresa2008 wrote: »

I need to drive from galway to dublin for the august bank holiday, do u think there might be checkpoints set up? i took down my l plates and im just chancing my arm, i still cant believe my tester called iun sick and there was no one to cover him, unreal!!!!!! how they expect to get thru that back log is beyond me

i'd say there will definitely be checkpoints that wkend, dont they always go on a high profile blitz on bank holidays. and because they advertise it so much, it will probably be a zero tolerance approach also

TwoShedsJackson · 04-07-2008 09:50AM

teresa2008 wrote: »

I need to drive from galway to dublin for the august bank holiday, do u think there might be checkpoints set up? i took down my l plates and im just chancing my arm, i still cant believe my tester called iun sick and there was no one to cover him, unreal!!!!!! how they expect to get thru that back log is beyond me

There's usually extra cops and checkpoints out on a Bank Holiday weekend, they won't be setting them up specifically to catch out unaccompanied learners though as they said themselves. You may be better off leaving the plates up and hoping the guards go easy on you if you do get stopped, better to do that then take them down and definitely seem to be avoiding the law.

SheroN · 04-07-2008 09:53AM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

There's usually extra cops and checkpoints out on a Bank Holiday weekend, they won't be setting them up specifically to catch out unaccompanied learners though as they said themselves. You may be better off leaving the plates up and hoping the guards go easy on you if you do get stopped, better to do that then take them down and definitely seem to be avoiding the law.

You could always drive through any checkpoints without stopping and hope that the cops don't catch you. Put a piece of cardboard over your number plates.

04-07-2008 10:09AM

Why not go the whole hog; put english plates on your car!*

*disclaimer, I'm not condoning any illegal activity.

LadyE · 04-07-2008 10:44AM

T.G Catter wrote: »

I am completely disillusioned with the whole driving test system and to be honest completely broke from it too with lessons, fuel and application fees.

I have failed a total of 3 times now in Wexford Town/Enniscorthy.

I was only driving a few months first time to be fair and was expected. Second time was by a POLISH TESTER in Enniscorthy, who failed me by 1 mark, marked so very very unfairly, plus he made me wait an extra 10 minutes in the test centre while he spoke to his mates in Poland.

3rd time was very hot Saturday in Wexford, my passenger window is broken and won't open and he was very very slow to give me signal and had no idea of Wexford town in general as he was a Dub. So most likely pissed off he couldn't get back to the kids in the holiday home to hit Curracloe beach.

All I can do now is apply again. I need my car. I am a good driver I have never had an accident in all my 4 years driving. I am not danger on the road, compared to the moron boy racers I meet daily driving on my side of the road or speeding.
I drive on the on dangerous country roads and then get judged on driving on narrow streets in towns on one occasion.

If you were a good driver you would have passed your test

No point blaming the testers nationality or the time you did your test..:p

eoghan104 · 04-07-2008 11:22AM

My friend mailed me this morning saying that a guy in his office got done last night. €1000 fine for not being accompanied and €1000 for having no L plates. He said there were checkpoints in Shankill Bray and Blackrock. They were asking drivers for license, tax and insurance. Did anyone see any of this?

SheroN · 04-07-2008 11:51AM

eoghan104 wrote: »

My friend mailed me this morning saying that a guy in his office got done last night. €1000 fine for not being accompanied and €1000 for having no L plates. He said there were checkpoints in Shankill Bray and Blackrock. They were asking drivers for license, tax and insurance. Did anyone see any of this?

I'd imagine they will throw the book at you for not having L plates up.

Best bet is to keep the L plates up and show them a driving test appointment letter (for the next month or so).

Creamy Goodness · 04-07-2008 11:56AM

saw a garda jeep and three people in red RSA jackets on the N11 near cabinteely this morning.

nice to see they are trying to make their presence felt.

whiskeyman · 04-07-2008 11:56AM

Seems to be a few checkpoints around the South Dublin area this morning... might be just tax, but they may haul in the micras / polos / younger drivers.

channaigh · 04-07-2008 02:38PM

my friend got caught last night. Was told she was going to get a summonds to appear in court. I thought you just got a fine there and then? How long will they keep this up for is the question

SheroN · 04-07-2008 02:55PM

channaigh wrote: »

my friend got caught last night. Was told she was going to get a summonds to appear in court. I thought you just got a fine there and then? How long will they keep this up for is the question

It's not an on the spot fine. Did she have L plates up? Did she have a letter for a test?

channaigh · 04-07-2008 03:05PM

yea l plates up and letter with her they didn't care

SheroN · 04-07-2008 03:12PM

channaigh wrote: »

yea l plates up and letter with her they didn't care

Sounds pretty harsh.

snowy2008 · 04-07-2008 03:13PM

did she definatly? the ball of stress im at the moment is getting bigger, stupid laws!

snowy2008 · 04-07-2008 03:13PM

sorry i menat definatly have plates up and letter? i called the cops earlier and they said it would be ok, how did she get caught?

The Artist · 04-07-2008 03:14PM

channaigh wrote: »

yea l plates up and letter with her they didn't care

who didnt care?

SheroN · 04-07-2008 03:15PM

The Artist wrote: »

who didnt care?

Seemingly the cops.

channaigh · 04-07-2008 03:16PM

Yea she did i work with her she's in a state now. said the cop just keptn telling its the law and kept her on the side of road for 15 20 mintues.

Any garda checkpoints out today?

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