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Teleportation could be one. Not as cool as hover board but still cool. Just like in the copenhagen experiment. (sounds lik e a movie but its not)

A great understanding of the quantum world would mean an unforseable amount of benefits.

norrie rugger wrote: »

Basically, untill we look we will never know

And teleportation is way bloody cooler than a hover board

is it really cooler though?

Flying around on a board and doing loads of stuff like in bak 2 de future. That seems more fun and cooler then walking into a fridge and appearing somewhere else.

Though if the actual teleporting was like going through what the movies like to see as a worm hole with the rollercoaster bends and stuff that could be just as cooler. It would have to be a great ride though and beat nemesis for excitement.

I think i see a market for teleportation. Competitors trying to make their teleportation device number 1.

-teleportation in "surround sound", hear all the sounds of the quantum world as your body seperates into infinity.

-teleportation in "3D", enjoy you trip to the other side while watching the world around you dissolve into another dimension...in 3D...=)

-teleporter with "pre massage feature"- make sure your relaxed before you smash up into trillions of pieces.

and so on.

tdp-carol wrote: »

What's the Copenhagen experiment that you refer to? Was it something that that Niels Bohr was up to then?

sure do a googleplex search and you will find some cool info on the copenhagen interpretation and related experiments and stuff associated with superposition and teleportation of particles (or ions). Dunno if they are the same thing when an ion....:)

thanks for clearing those topics up a bit professor fink in all the threads. Always good to hear an expert explain this physics stuff. tnx:D

so when is the big day? I am assuming it will be like a big rocket launch will it?
will there be loads of press coverage>?

that says 6 days?

yeah i read all of that sink but it doesnt mention when it is going to happen, that is what brought me to this thread actualey.

Well, you would be stuck in a vacuum in a big tube, so I don't think being shot would be your main worry,


but from what I understand these experiments are on the few proton scale so since there are 10^26 to 10^27 atoms in your body I think its effects actual result of their impact would go unnoticed... but I could be wrong, any other opinions?

SOL wrote: »

but from what I understand these experiments are on the few proton scale so since there are 10^26 to 10^27 atoms in your body I think its effects actual result of their impact would go unnoticed... but I could be wrong, any other opinions?

Take a look at this article.
The beam is comprised of a lot of particles each with a lot of energy, so there is more than enough energy to turn you into a stain on the side of the tunnel. The real issue is the proton scattering cross-section a human target would present (i.e. how likely it would be for a proton to collide with a particle in the target. If this is less than 0.333*10^-15 then you should be fine. However I suspect it is substantially higher. As you move up through values of scattering cross section the beam would have a more and more noticable effect. At the lower end you could expect the same behaviour as ionising radiation (radiation sickness/cancer etc). As you get towards 1, the full beam energy is getting transfered to the person, in which case you'll be cleaning them up with a bucket.

"Each beam will consist of almost 3000 bunches of 100 billion particles each."


Well yes, in that case I'd imagine the result would probably be impressionist, I just had this image of small numbers of particles, like when you see in the cloud chambers single particle trails,..

Also given the tunnel is only 27km long and the protons are travelling in the order of 10^5km/s, I'd say you would be looking at a quick end...

"· 3000km of wires and fibres will carry information at the rate of 3200 terabytes per year, equivalent to around 3 billion books."

This however seems like nonsense to me...

"· At near light speed, a proton in the LHC beam will make 11,245 laps a second."

Also the figure here is out by a factor of 10 right?




Okay, I'll stop complaining now, thanks for the link

but then everyone does love the "irrelevant and nonsensical comparison" that has become a requirement for all science articles or those reporting any unusual measurements...

SOL wrote: »

"· 3000km of wires and fibres will carry information at the rate of 3200 terabytes per year, equivalent to around 3 billion books."

This however seems like nonsense to me...

If anything that figure seems low to me. They have a massive problem with the amount of data they generate and have to filter it on the fly rather than store it.

SOL wrote: »

"· At near light speed, a proton in the LHC beam will make 11,245 laps a second."

Also the figure here is out by a factor of 10 right?

Eh, c = 3*10^8 m/s so c/27000m is 11,111, so 11,245 sounds right.