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CHELSEA General Discussion and Rumours 07/08

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Personality to match his boring team. I suppose its apt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Haha, good stuff.
    I assume this is cause Chelsea realised they were under contract that they had to talk to Sky, and have no choice in it unless they want to get sued. What do you do? Give the least interesting answers ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    selpher wrote: »
    A deserved win Avram?
    Grant said: 'Yes.'

    What particularly pleased you about the performance?
    'I'm pleased.'

    What in particular pleased you?
    After an eight second delay: 'I don't know.'

    Is it a relief to win here?
    'Yes.'

    You seem lost for words by the performance. Are you more satisfied with the performance or the victory?
    'Both.'

    You seem distracted. Do you have a problem?
    'No problem.'

    Is there an issue?
    'No. I'm ok. I have nothing to say.'

    Do you have a message for the Chelsea fans?
    'You represent the Chelsea fans?'

    They must believe you are still in the title race, do you have a message for them?
    'No message.'

    Does this result mean you are back in it now?
    'I don't know.'

    How many steps have you climbed to undertake this press conference?
    'I don't know.'

    You seem less voluble than usual. Is it because of Sky TV moving the game to a Thursday?
    'Maybe it's because of you. I don't know. I am ok.'

    You are saying that you don't know if you are still in the title race?
    'No.' Is it easier to say nothing Avram?
    'I don't what to answer. It is a good question. I don't know what to answer.'

    Is this because of Sky?
    'No. Sky is ok. I enjoy watching them.'

    Is it a protest against newspapers?
    'No. Why?'

    Why else would you come in and refuse to answer our questions?
    'I answer every question.'

    You are two points behind Manchester United and you don't know if you are still in the title race?
    'No.'

    Have you told the players that you don't know if you are back in the title race?
    'What I tell the players is something else. You want me to tell you what I say to the players?'

    We just want you to answer the question really. Are you in the title race?
    'I don't know.'

    Would you not like to gain some positive publicity for the result rather than this bizarre silence?
    'I'm sorry. You can write whatever you want and I can answer what I want.'

    Do you feel under pressure to deliver a trophy. Is that the reason for the monosyllabic answers?
    'No.'

    Are you upset? Do you feel you have been misrepresented?
    'Maybe I have said because it is a bad season.'

    Did Michael Essien faint?
    'He had some problems, but he is ok.'

    Michael Ballack?
    'Injured.'

    What's his problem?
    'Ask the doctor.'

    He's not here Avram.
    'Well call him then.'

    Have you ever played the yes/no game Avram?
    .....


    He has the personality of Pat Kenny!
    How on earth are they going to leave him as the manager next season.
    The players must look at him and laugh on a daily basis


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Because hes doing well.Nobody expected us to be in the position we are now.He deserves one full season at least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭jackdaw


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7319619.stm

    GRANT HAILS VITAL CHELSEA VICTORY --

    "We were behind Manchester United from the beginning of the season so it never was in our hands. It is in our hands to do our job and that is what we did."

    eh .. you didn't do your job, you dropped 2 crucial points AT HOME against Wigan !!!!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    jackdaw wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7319619.stm

    GRANT HAILS VITAL CHELSEA VICTORY --

    "We were behind Manchester United from the beginning of the season so it never was in our hands. It is in our hands to do our job and that is what we did."

    eh .. you didn't do your job, you dropped 2 crucial points AT HOME against Wigan !!!!
    your a very angry chelsea fan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Anam


    Looks like Ballack,Lampard,Drogba and Essien will miss the 1st leg.Pretty much means we'll either have SWP in the midfield 3 or else we'll go 4-4-2.It will be very interesting to see how Mikel performs in this match, he was excellent the other night and will have a lot of responsibility to go forward.Ballacks a huge loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    that interview that was posted up is pure quality! i laughed again when i read it, he actually has a sense of humour after all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    chdpoker wrote: »
    Because hes doing well.Nobody expected us to be in the position we are now.He deserves one full season at least.

    worst nightmare possible, that clown given a transfer kitty, we'd have Jens Lehman playing as striker in september.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    chdpoker wrote: »
    Because hes doing well.Nobody expected us to be in the position we are now.He deserves one full season at least.


    Fair play

    Nice to see a Chelsea fan supporting the team and manager for a change, especially only being 2 points behind the leaders in April and a CL semi final coming up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    Hi,

    Don't know if any of you are going to the game but there are plans for some form of tribute to a young Liverpool fan who is dying of cancer (story and links here). LFC fans are trying to spread the word; the plan seems to be some sort of chant or round of applause that will be picked up on TV and that he'll hear when he watches the match. A couple of banners have also been made. We'd appreciate it if you could pass the word on through other Chelsea forums so that anyone who is there knows what is going on.

    Thanks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Fair play

    Nice to see a Chelsea fan supporting the team and manager for a change, especially only being 2 points behind the leaders in April and a CL semi final coming up.

    Thank you!

    I think hes probably walked into one of the toughest jobs around especially after Mourinho leaving.He brought us deep into every competition.We can still win two of the biggest prizes in Football, EPL and CL, and he has a great record this season i think only Mourinho's is better.Everyone forgets we were supposed to struggle this year after Mourinho left, we havn't because Avram Grant has done a good job.The least he deserves is one summer to shape his squad and challenge for trophies.We got lucky with Mourinho bringing instant success but it isnt that easy.Chelsea fans need to start being proper fans!!!And i think and hope the board will stick by Avram for one more year and i think everyone will be surprised how we do ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭King John V


    Considering the media have dubbed him an 'amateur' at the highest level, he's done very well. To be the only remaining team that can challenge utd for the PL title with 3 only games left isn't bad. Cup finalists in England and in the last 4 in europe with the prospects of winning it. That's some achievement by any club's standard.

    I can see a much more settled Chelsea team back challenging for trophies next season. The disruptive influences in the squad who were against Grant from the start will probably be released and the prospect of players like Ribery joining certainly offers glimmers of hope for Chelsea fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    If Grant doesn't win the PL or get to the CL final, I just can't see Grant staying. I really can't see the former happening anymore, too much to do (although not beyond the realms of possibility), but beating Liverpool is certainly a possibility. Whether getting to the final is enough only Ambrovomich will know, but I think the problem is not that Grant should go, it's that there are no real attacking managers out there to replace him.

    Of the three most successful attacking managers in the world, Fergie, Wenger and Rikkjard, the first two would never ever ever go to them, and the last one has shown to be something of a one trick pony and really not up to the highest levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭King John V


    Wenger is quite possibly one of the most attack orientated coachs in the world. But if he was released no way would his philosophy fit with Abromavich's vision of instant glory and sucess. Wenger would want to buy talented 15 year olds on the cheap and develop them over 10-15 years. Abromavich's style of buying tried and tested 20 something year olds in the 20 million+ bracket would go against the grain for Wenger. I'm sure there'd be clashes of opinion if they combined forces :p.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    GET THE F!CK IN WE ARE GOIN TO MOSCOW!!!!!!

    Blue is the colour
    Football is the game
    We are all together
    And winning is our aim!!!!!

    SING CHELSEA EVERYONE!!!!!!!


    COME ON CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    wish i knew how to post that tumbleweed picture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,149 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    It'd just be followed by one of a lemon tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Fair play to Chelsea. Hope ye do the double.

    Maybe ye will cut Mr Grant some slack now.

    Enjoy Moscow!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Chelsea to sign Bosingwa
    Chelsea have reached an agreement with Porto for the £16.2m transfer of right-back Jose Bosingwa.

    The 25-year-old Portugal international has arrived in London to discuss personal terms and undergo a medical.

    Bosingwa, who was also a target for Manchester United, was born in the Democratic Republic of Congo but moved to Portugal as a child.

    The full-back helped Porto to the 2004 Champions League title and four league championships since signing in 2003.

    Bosingwa made more than 40 appearances for Boavista before former Blues boss Jose Mourinho brought him to rivals Porto.


    606: DEBATE
    Chelsea have again wasted money on an average player!

    R

    Although he was used sparingly in his first season, the defender, who can also play on the wing, had been the first-choice right-back during the last three seasons.

    His performances have earned him seven caps for Portugal and he is expected to be named in their Euro 2008 squad this week.

    Alberto da Silva, a journalist for World Soccer magazine, believes Bosingwa has been overvalued by Chelsea.

    "He's a good player but he's not worth that much money," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.


    I don't believe Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson would have been willing to spend that much money

    Journalist Alberto da Silva

    "Chelsea's current right-back Paulo Ferreira is a better player. I don't know who negotiated the deal, but he did well for Porto."

    He added: "I don't believe Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson would have been willing to spend that much money on Bosingwa."

    Three years ago, Bosingwa was involved in a serious car accident along with four other footballers.

    All survived, but Sandro Luis, from a minor Portuguese side, had to have his left foot amputated as a result of the accident.

    Bosingwa's arrival at Stamford Bridge will cast doubt over the future of another right-back Juliano Belletti.

    The former Barcelona defender, who scored the winning goal in the 2006 Champions League final against Arsenal, has been overlooked by Blues manager Avram Grant in recent weeks, with Michael Essien occupying the full-back berth.

    16milion? sounds very steep. they clearly are desperate to sort out that right back position.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    I have seen him and I think it's more that Grant and Roman want an attacking right back as opposed to Ferreira. He's not bad at all but the Portuguese league isn't much of a testing ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭selpher


    Wow how much have porto made off of us in the last few seasons? 16mil is a lot but considering the prices being talked about for other RB's we were linked with like Richards and Alves, it doesnt surprise me. Although with the amount we paid for Ivanovic and Bosingwa we could of bought Alves. Anyway hope he does well for us. My portuguese work mate assures me he's pretty decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    wat happened to the big centre half ye signed in Jan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭selpher


    That was Ivanovic, he must've been injured cause he hasn't even made the bench once yet. I remember when we got him he had the same lack of fitness Skirtel had for liverpool, then he just dissapeared.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    was actually thinking about that the other day alright. they arrived together, with your lad rated the better player and a good bit more expensive (12million if memory serves me right?), then we just havent heard from him since, yet Skrtl has gone on to be a super player for us in the few short months.

    something a little fishy about the situation if ya ask me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭eddiehead


    TBH we need a very good full back, not another average one(Boularouz, Ferreira, Belletti) to mount a serious challenge next season as I think its our weakest position by far and leaves us very exposed at times. There arent many great full backs in the world right now, but surely with the resources available along with the prospect of major honours at Chelsea we should be able to attract some of the best.Having said that, i could be wrong, i just havnt seen or heard of this guy.
    I really think Chelsea should be aiming for a big name signing at the earliest opportunity this summer, with the prospect of Drogba leaving, we should be trying to make a signal of intent. Somebody like Benzema(sought after by a string of europes top clubs) is who I would like to see at the Bridge. Maybe with Romans full backing Avram Grant can be more ambitious in the transfer market than Jose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    topnutz wrote: »
    Maybe with Romans full backing Avram Grant can be more ambitious in the transfer market than Jose.

    More ambitious?
    They bought Ballack, Shevchenko, Malouda, Cole, SWP, Essien ,Carvallo etc
    under Maureen, all very sought after players.
    How much more ambitious do you want them to be?
    Unless you are looking for £100m a summer of spending you cant really
    ask for a whole lot more from the owner, its about proper use of the
    resources rather than increasing the spend if you ask me
    Chelsea dont need to spend £80m on new players, they only need 1 or 2
    Probably wont stop them doing it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    topnutz wrote: »
    TBH we need a very good full back, not another average one(Boularouz, Ferreira, Belletti) to mount a serious challenge next season

    As opposed to the half arsed title challenge ye mounted this year?!

    Chelsea fans really have been spoilt the last few years! ;)
    topnutz wrote: »
    i just havnt seen or heard of this guy.

    You'll be glad to hear, he's been linked to some of Europes top clubs and is regarded as a pretty excellent player.
    topnutz wrote: »
    Somebody like Benzema(sought after by a string of europes top clubs) is who I would like to see at the Bridge.

    How often have you seen Benzema play? Or is it just the fact that hes been linked with Real,Utd,Barca etc that has you wanting him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Christ what are some fans expecting. More ambitious in the transfer market. Ballack, Shevchenko, Robben, Malouda, Cech, Drogba etc.. what exactly is there in that that shows a lack of ambition?

    Chelsea needed to put up a serious title challenge? Yeah we really made a mess of it this year didn't we. Considering the turmoil and waring factions at the club in the first part of the season its pretty remarkable how we were able to turn it around and bring the season to the last day. That and the fact that we are in the CL final. Honestly what more do people want without winning absolutely everything in sight?

    Essien while not a rb is still better than the majority of RB's in the prem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭eddiehead


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    As opposed to the half arsed title challenge ye mounted this year?!

    Ive been saying for a while that our league position flatters us, it wont be so close next year if we keep up the half arsed performances, sometimes the league table does lie.
    But I think we've been found wanting at at right back far too often this season, so for me a world class right back is top of my wishlist(well, right behind Messi), that is of course if we can keep the rest of the squad intact throughout the transfer window.
    Your right about Benzema, I havnt seen much of him, but what i have seen I have been very impressed. Also there's no smoke without fire, if the whole of Europe wants him he cant be all bad, plus hes more likely to be available than say Etoo for example.
    I also said i could be wrong about Bosingwa and i hope i am, i just havnt heard of him thats all


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