Bigot, sectarian site still running and nothing is being done

darkman2 · 28-04-2008 08:56PM #1

Hi,

Ive complained about this particular website before
http://www.pulseresources.org/ForumsPro/viewforum/f=1.html
for its shameless promotion of bigotry, intolerance and at times sheer racism. This is one of the worst sites I have ever seen and alot of it is actually directed at Irish people for some reason. You only have to read one of those threads to see why. Basically its a Northern Protestant site. Fair enough but just read some of the threads! I think there was also a newspaper article in the UK not long ago questioning this site with far more damning comments then I have about it. What bothers me about this is that its still there. Its become a breeding ground for anti Irish, anti Catholic bigotry and other racism against others and its so blatant. They condon paramilitaries frequently and loyalist terrorist organistions on a public forum.

Ive no doubt the people who use the site are sad, pathetic individuals who wouldnt say such things on the street to someone in person. What im wondering is why, despite the many complaints to the regulators and in light of the peace process and all that - that such a platform is being tolerated? The stuff on that site is beyond belief:( Im far from the only person who has concerns about these sorts of sites - I think they should all be banned - that goes for the Republican ones with their garbage aswell!

Id like to encourage others to make official complaints about these sorts of sites aswell. Has anyone got any idea of what the best way to make complaints against sites like this is?

Helix · 28-04-2008 08:58PM

theyre perfectly entitled to have a site like that if they want

stop being such a pc twit

you cant regulate peoples opinions

mike65 · 28-04-2008 08:59PM

Fancy making the same point about Stormfront?

Mike.

Ross_Mahon · 28-04-2008 09:00PM

They mean serious business in there, Someone join it and create madness!

SV · 28-04-2008 09:02PM

Pack of idiots. Oh well.

darkman2 · 28-04-2008 09:02PM

mike65 wrote: »

Fancy making the same point about Stormfront?

Mike.

The site ive mentioned is principly to do with Ireland - of course I think SF should be banned and all sites that promote racism. Id like to start with the ones in our country first which are encouraging religious hatred.

Dub13 · 28-04-2008 09:03PM

Who have you complained to..?

Karoma · 28-04-2008 09:03PM

Helix wrote: »

theyre perfectly entitled to have a site like that if they want

stop being such a pc twit

you cant regulate peoples opinions

Careful now. I'm sure you can make your point without getting abusive.

Dub13 wrote:

Who have you complained to..?

Valid question. May I suggest Joe Duffy (If you haven't already.)

I disgaree with what the people on that site, and stormfront, and so many other sites have to say, but I believe they have a right to say it (Unless it directy advocates or orchestrates violence). People are entitled to their opinions.

Helix · 28-04-2008 09:04PM

darkman2 wrote: »

The site ive mentioned is principly to do with Ireland - of course I think SF should be banned and all sites that promote racism. Id like to start with the ones in our country first which are enouraging religious hatred.

do you think getting rid of sites like that will suddenly mean these people change their opinions?

the sites arent the issue here and theyre every bit as entitled to their piece of the internet as you are

Helix · 28-04-2008 09:05PM

Karoma wrote: »

Careful now. I'm sure you can make your point without getting abusive.

lol

aye... "twit"

id say i cut him deep with that one alrite

JC 2K3 · 28-04-2008 09:06PM

Don't believe in freedom of speech, eh?

Karoma · 28-04-2008 09:08PM

Helix wrote: »

lol

aye... "twit"

id say i cut him deep with that one alrite

It was aimed at the poster more than the post. Did I infract you for it? No. Did I ban you for it? No. Quit while you're ahead.

niceonetom · 28-04-2008 09:09PM

darkman2 wrote: »

I think they should all be banned

i agree. only nice people should be allowed on the internet from now on. there should be a test of some sort...

twanda · 28-04-2008 09:10PM

darkman2 wrote: »

Ive no doubt the people who use the site are sad, pathetic individuals who wouldnt say such things on the street to someone in person. ?

I wouldn't lose sleep over it then.

darkman2 · 28-04-2008 09:11PM

Helix wrote: »

do you think getting rid of sites like that will suddenly mean these people change their opinions?

No, of course not, but I dont think platforms like it - especially for somewhere coming out of conflict is justified. Thats a blatant sectarian site actively encouraging hatred and bigotry against another side of the community.

I cant actually remember who I complained to. It was a UK regulator for the internet - someone posted the link here - that was last year. I cant remember what they are called though.

Helix · 28-04-2008 09:11PM

Karoma wrote: »

It was aimed at the poster more than the post. Did I infract you for it? No. Did I ban you for it? No. Quit while you're ahead.

i thought AH was fair game

Karoma · 28-04-2008 09:11PM

Out of cuirosity, OP, how did you come across this site in the first place?

You thought wrong, Helix. Re-read the charter.

Robbo · 28-04-2008 09:12PM

Dub13 wrote: »

Who have you complained to..?

Personally, I'd go to the President of Internets. He lives in an ivory tower guarded by lolcats and the Star Wars Kid.

Him or Joe Duffy, they get results.

Helix · 28-04-2008 09:14PM

Robbo wrote: »

Personally, I'd go to the President of Internets

haha

"dear mr. internet,

it has come to my attention that there is some material available on your service that i do not agree with. i demand you remove it this instant

regards
dave c. darkman II"

orestes · 28-04-2008 09:14PM

Damn right. People should only be allowed to voice their opinions if they are the same as mine.

Helix · 28-04-2008 09:15PM

Karoma wrote: »

You thought wrong, Helix. Re-read the charter.

thats far too much like effort, ill just have to live dangerously and see what happens by not reading it

darkman2 · 28-04-2008 09:15PM

Karoma wrote: »

Out of cuirosity, OP, how did you come across this site in the first place?

Because it was linked on the bbc messageboards and allowed stay there for a few days after it was in the Times newspaper I think it was.

Dub13 · 28-04-2008 09:16PM

darkman2 wrote: »

I cant actually remember who I complained to. It was a UK regulator for the internet - someone posted the link here - that was last year. I cant remember what they are called though.

But it could be hosted in Russia or Navan or some kip like that and then the UK regulator would have no jurisdiction.

Dave! · 28-04-2008 09:17PM

I think the OP should be banned from the internet. I actually do.

Dudess · 28-04-2008 09:20PM

OP, just don't bother looking at the site. The way it's disgusting you is exactly what they want.

But as for the "people are entitled to their opinion"/free speech argument: are people who believe, for example, that all children with cerebral palsy should be gassed, entitled to spread that view?

darkman2 · 28-04-2008 09:20PM

orestes wrote: »

Damn right. People should only be allowed to voice their opinions if they are the same as mine.

Lads, dont get me wrong, im all for freedom of opinion and free speech etc. Its just Ireland is in reality a small place and part of the Island has had a murderous sectarian conflict - thats my principle argument against this/these sites. Im all for free speech etc. The owner or main mod on that site was on PeoplesRepublicofCork a while back and was asked would he not make sure to at least tone down some of what was on the site

obviously too much to ask.

phantom_lord · 28-04-2008 09:22PM

when the seagulls follow the trawler...

smemon · 28-04-2008 09:24PM

Yeah it's all a load of nonsense..

Let them burn flags and talk the talk... whatever floats your boat :rolleyes:

I see plenty of people wearing engerland & rangers jerseys in the republic (ok, not plenty, but some)... i don't want to stab them or burn them alive..

Even if i did, there's nothing wrong with that. Unless of course i actually do it or publicly declare i'm going to do it

Until the site becomes a meeting place for known thugs or vandals, leave it up and running as these guys are just like us..

Bored, in work or whatever killing a few hours trying to stir up controversy or get arguments or debates going.

Dudess · 28-04-2008 09:30PM

Yep, let them spew their hate. They're not worth getting worked up over.

funk-you · 28-04-2008 09:34PM

Dudess wrote: »

OP, just don't bother looking at the site. The way it's disgusting you is exactly what they want.

But as for the "people are entitled to their opinion"/free speech argument: are people who believe, for example, that all children with cerebral palsy should be gassed, entitled to spread that view?

Yes as long as they don't actually do any gassing.

-Funk

marco murphy · 28-04-2008 09:36PM

darkman2 wrote: »

The site ive mentioned is principly to do with Ireland - of course I think SF should be banned and all sites that promote racism. Id like to start with the ones in our country first which are encouraging religious hatred.

How does SF promote Racism?
What planet are you on??

Bigot, sectarian site still running and nothing is being done

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