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Ebay shipping from uk is ridiculous

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Sellers adding that bit extra to make some extra money. I do not buy from people who do this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭buckfast4me


    Ok.. What's funny is I am not ordering from him now - but if he had just set the sunglasses at a more expensive price and gave the correct shipping cost to Ireland I would have ordered from him.

    Can get the exact same thing from an American ebayer for $19 INCLUDING shipping (about €12 altogther).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    At this point, it's practically unavoidable. I'd say the majority of sellers add that little bit extra on the postage. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 beinlin


    Bumping up the p&p is supposed to be against ebay TOSft2.jpg:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    correct me if I am wrong, but don't they do it so they have to pay less commission on the ad itself? It is a bit annoying but it just means you have to include delivery cost into every purchase because it is usually substantial. My last ebay purchase cost 140 euros, 50 of which was the postage. But overall 140 delivered was a good price.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,613 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    correct me if I am wrong, but don't they do it so they have to pay less commission on the ad itself?
    This. People keep on forgetting that they can either pay total price X, with bumped up shipping costs OR pay X + extra Ebay commission for higher base value and lower postage. But hey, if people want to keep paying Ebay more money (as the seller will need to make the same profit for the over all item + postage) more power to them; personally I prefer a lower over all price then paying Ebay more commission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    price is made up of item price + P&P. Seller pays fees on item price but not postage. Hence a lot of them bump up the price of postage. Its against ebay rules to do this (see here)

    however ebay don't care about buyers, its sellers who pay the fees so they always take their side. Some of the responses you get from their customer service are comical. I have often contacted them about P&P rip offs or sellers refusing to leave feedback til I leave it for them (a lot will leave you undeserved negatives of you leave deserved negatives for sellers). They don't care, despite the fact it makes their feedback system worthless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Remember that P&P is Postage and Packing. The cost is not just the stamps on the envelope, but the cost for someone to put the item in the envelope, the cost of the envelope and the bringing it to the post office. As such, it's nearly impossible to say that postage costs are over the top since you will never know how much the packing cost is.

    Also, since postage costs are always shown on the auction, I don't see how anyone can crib about it after an auction ends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    jor el wrote: »
    Also, since postage costs are always shown on the auction, I don't see how anyone can crib about it after an auction ends.

    I bought an item on ebay about a year ago. Was charged £13 P&P. When it arrived the postage cost was 11.98 (printed on the item). Thats grand, very reasonable P&P charges IMO as as you say packing etc has to be considered.

    Not long after I bought another item from a different seller. No Postage to Ireland quoted. Mailed the seller and he told me he'd check the cost in his local post office. Mailed me back that postage was £12. I had priced the item in argos among other places and saw the package was about the same size as the item mentioned above so I paid. When I received it the postage cost printed on it was less than £5 (was lighter I assume). This is a blatant rip off IMO (he lied in his e-mail, said he'd checked the cost in his post office), and I left neutral feedback accordingly. Complained to ebay, am still awaiting a reply (this was last august).

    Despite the fact the seller broke ebay rules they couldn't care less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    am still awaiting a reply (this was last august).

    I wouldn't hold my breath on a reply either, and if you do it'll probably be a half arsed, pseudo-generic reply, with little or nothing to do with the question/complaint you had.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    jor el wrote: »
    I wouldn't hold my breath on a reply either, and if you do it'll probably be a half arsed, pseudo-generic reply, with little or nothing to do with the question/complaint you had.

    probably, I did once get a reply to a complaint about the feedback system, they might as well not have bothered


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭311


    There is more to expensive delivery charges ,especially with overseas items.

    I wreckon there are people on ebay who make there money on delivery charges only. They actually buy stuff when you order and ship it on to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭dougdub


    Ebay set up the star system now and you can slate anyone who has overchagred you there.

    The lower the star rating the more fees they'll pay to ebay so they'll soon cop on and see its counterproductive especially when it's 40% off total monthly fees if there star rating is 4.6 and above on all stars!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,684 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    yeah you do have to be vigilant with P&P fees. There is a grey area there as sellers can claim the packing is costing them whatever they like.

    never buy an item that doesnt have the P&P fees to ireland listed unless you get it clarified before committing to buy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 beinlin


    jor el wrote: »
    Remember that P&P is Postage and Packing. The cost is not just the stamps on the envelope, but the cost for someone to put the item in the envelope, the cost of the envelope and the bringing it to the post office. As such, it's nearly impossible to say that postage costs are over the top since you will never know how much the packing cost is.

    Also, since postage costs are always shown on the auction, I don't see how anyone can crib about it after an auction ends.

    I agree, but also believe there's a bit of room for a few extra euros here and there. I know someone selling laptops and make half the profit on the delivery costs...ft2.jpg:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    Just mail the Seller and ask them to send it by the cheapest post going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭311


    Theres no harm in people making a few extra quid on ebay ,some people go to a lot of trouble packing stuff and posting it on time.

    It's impossible to justify some of the postage charges though ,one seller charges 10 and another charges 20 :confused:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,684 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Mr.S wrote: »
    moral dilema!:

    i sold a package on ebay, had postage listed as 7 UK Pounds, thats what anpost.ie said it would be anyway, turns out it was only 4euro.

    keep the extra money or give a few back to the buyer?

    charity ftw!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭eoinhealy


    I know a good site for sunglasses if your still looking, they are in the UK.

    www.devilwear.co.uk

    You can get some good deals there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭JJ


    Dealing with shipping should be a no-brainer. Check what the shipping costs are, if you think it's too expensive, don't buy. If the shipping costs aren't displayed, ask the seller. When the seller gets back to you, follow the aforementioned "if you think it's too expensive" rule.

    Also, I don't see anything wrong with a seller charging a little extra for packaging and handling but I would agree that there are some shipping charges out there that extract the urine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I normally only complain about to the seller if the seller is taking the piss, ie charges high on P&P but takes an age to send and sends it 2nd class!

    What I cannot get my head around is the folk here who will not buy something if the P&P is what they deem high irrespective of the total price they are paying for the item

    Item x costs €15 made up of €12 + €3 - people will buy
    Item x costs €15 made up of €8 + €7 - people will not buy

    Also, do not forget that a high P&P is not necessarily a rip-off, maybe the seller is actually complying with your T&C's when you insist on paying with Paypal ie the seller has to send the item by a trackable method. These do not come cheap when sending internationally!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    What I cannot get my head around is the folk here who will not buy something if the P&P is what they deem high irrespective of the total price they are paying for the item

    This is something I don't get either. As a buyer, you should be looking at the total cost of the sale, item and postage, before deciding to buy. I normally look out for items going for 99p (for example), with post then being maybe £10. That way I get it for £11. Another seller charging £3 delivery (a reasonable amount for something small) might be charging £10 for the item itself, meaning I'd pay £13 in total. Makes a lot of sense to be "ripped off" for the postage if you end up getting it cheaper.

    Sellers can often afford to sell the item for an overall cheaper price if they keep the postage high, as there's no fees on this. They still make their money, and the buyer saves a little.

    Of course, if you're paying £10 for something worth £10, and then paying £10 postage on top, when it should be £3, then that's obviously a rip off. You can always choose not to buy from this seller though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    jor el wrote: »
    Remember that P&P is Postage and Packing. The cost is not just the stamps on the envelope, but the cost for someone to put the item in the envelope, the cost of the envelope and the bringing it to the post office. As such, it's nearly impossible to say that postage costs are over the top since you will never know how much the packing cost is.

    Also, since postage costs are always shown on the auction, I don't see how anyone can crib about it after an auction ends.

    Yeah but have you ever compared some of these seller's UK P&P prices and then compared them to their rates for sending to Ireland?
    I've often seen something like a game/DVD P&P go from £2 for UK up to £5+....has the cost to get to the post office and the cost of the jiffybag suddenly doubled because the package has to go on a plane?

    It's grand to say just leave it, buy somewhere else etc, but in the cases of rarer items where there may be only a few or one for sale, the option isn't there and just because you happen to live outside the UK you're going to get ripped off.

    It's understandable if the item is heavy...courier costs are high and it needs to come by courier...but this charging for 1st class or registered and sticking it in a used jiffybag with a 2nd class stamp is bullsh*t.
    I've threatened sellers with negative feedback and eBay complaints unless they refund some of the overcharge in some cases and it's worked...evn if it's only for a quid or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,155 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I put a bit more P&P to my EU buyers. The reason for this is that is more risky for me to send the item to the buyer as paypal do not cover sellers when they send it to unconfirmed addresses (non-UK EU buyers cannot get confirmed addresses according to paypal).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Wertz wrote: »
    but this charging for 1st class or registered and sticking it in a used jiffybag with a 2nd class stamp is bullsh*t.

    That's something I hate too. That and paying for registered post and then the seller uses standard. I don't mind over-paying for postage if I get it cheaper overall, but over-paying for one thing and getting getting something way less is something I don't tolerate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 DesertLynx83


    I know how you guys feel. I live in the States and I've had that problem, too. About a month ago, I bought this item and it had $7 shipping to anywhere in the US...well, I thought it was for a shipping service that would get it to me faster. Five days later, I got it and the shipping was only $1.65 and it was in a cheap envelope, so I was a little upset. Now, this isn't the first time it's happened, obviously, but I'm just giving my most recent example. When I sell, I try not to be unreasonable on my charges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I've found many US sellers that ship internationally are in fact cheaper for their shipping rate than their UKL counterparts on similar items...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 DesertLynx83


    Wertz wrote: »
    I've found many US sellers that ship internationally are in fact cheaper for their shipping rate than their UKL counterparts on similar items...

    Really? Interesting. I don't ship overseas, but if I decide to start, that's good to know.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    I don't particularly care if a seller is charging me UK5 postage instead of the real cost if the overall cost is attractive and of course if the cost is agreed up-front.

    If you find that the postage is too high then don't buy. You could always use "ask seller a question" and mention it to him/her but lets face it ebay purchases are discretionary - no-one has to buy stuff there and can choose to wait and see if the items come up again.

    There are a couple of things to bear in mind:

    1. Check the overall cost (as mentioned before),
    2. Unless you really want it don't bid without knowing the postage.

    UK sellers aren't a homegenous entity - some folk charge very respectable rates with respectable item prices. Some think Europe is another planet and charge high rates to turn off people (read the ebay community boards to get a flavour).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    parsi wrote: »

    UK sellers aren't a homegenous entity - some folk charge very respectable rates with respectable item prices. Some think Europe is another planet and charge high rates to turn off people (read the ebay community boards to get a flavour).

    Oh no I'll not tar them all with the same brush either...in fact after mailing some of them to enquire about shipping to Ireland, you discover that they view us as part of the UK(!) and will of course ship here at the same price.
    But for the most part they're gougers.

    Just as aside, looking at some things on a search last night and one of the items was in Ireland...the seller wanted the £stg equivalent of €13 for postage to Ireland...the same as his postage rate to the UK...other UK sellers were offering the same item and their shipping costs were almost half that (all item values similar)...so the brits aren't the only ones who are at it by any means...


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