Mary Harney and The Fat

Peared · 20-02-2008 04:56PM #1

Just wondering if people think its ok for the Minister for Health to be obese. Should the powers that be have a word and ask her to lose weight?

Please note I dont mean for aesthetic reasons but for health reasons. Can the face (or body) of Health in this country be taken seriously when it seems she does not follow basic healthcare advice herself?

Maybe people think its irrelevant to the job she does? Wotyis all think?

garthv · 20-02-2008 04:59PM

Hah!
I've been saying this for ages. Its the very reason why our health system is so f*cked. How can we expect someone who can't look after themselves physically to look after a whole country?

FunkZ · 20-02-2008 05:00PM

Aye she's a fat mess alright...

Dragan · 20-02-2008 05:01PM

Eh, someones own physical condition has **** all to do with the role.

She is paid and employed to run the Health Services. Not be healthy.

The reason they are in a tatters is because Mary is a **** Minister. Not because she is in poor health.

bookiebasher · 20-02-2008 05:02PM

The health service is a poison chalice ....the top 10 businessmen in the world could not sort it out...

Sugar Drunk · 20-02-2008 05:04PM

it hurts to look at her. and its wrong. how can someone be in charge of making decisions about other peoples health when she clearly cannot make good decisions about her own?

And yes her condition is relevant to the role. This woman clearly does not know what is healthy.

rubadub · 20-02-2008 05:13PM

Eh, someones own physical condition has **** all to do with the role.

It doesn't but it does make some people take a bad view of her. It is a sort of "do as I say, not as I do" situation, and some people object to that mentality. First impressions last.

It would be like hearing that the finance minister was putting all his dail wages into pyramid schemes, and "investing" in nigerian scams. It wouldnt do them any good either, doesnt mean they would not be a good finance minister.

Or heaven forbid, it would be like someone in charge of the country not having a bank account.
Or the minister for foreign affairs not knowing the capital of France.
Minister for the environment driving a juggernaut to work.

It does their credibility no good.

If I went to a surgery and had the pick of 2 GPs, one morbidly obese and one normal, I would go for the normal sized one who looked healthy. I am prejudiced, there is nothing really wrong with some prejudices. If I was to bet I would bet the normal sized doctor knows more about health and might be more interested in his job and keep up to date with stuff.

I have yet to see the government do much to tackle obesity.

humberklog · 20-02-2008 05:19PM

We did have a finance min.who kept his money in a biscuit tin.

humberklog · 20-02-2008 05:22PM

Wonder did bertie nick the tin outta mary's office?

Wossack · 20-02-2008 05:22PM

Dragan wrote: »

Eh, someones own physical condition has **** all to do with the role.

true, but in the same vein its hard to trust an under nourished chef or a dentist with bad teeth

John_Mc · 20-02-2008 05:23PM

So what if she's fat?

Does the Minister of Finance need to be a self made millionaire to be deemed acceptable to fulfil his role?

Personally, I think she's doing a good job. It's not going to be easy turning around a health system because it's so huge and complex. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool :rolleyes:

humberklog · 20-02-2008 05:28PM

hear,hear. One of our finest and most capable ministers ever and doing trojan yet unsexy work on the most difficult briefs. Anyone remember dudlin pre smokeless fuel change. About 1990? A rancid sh*thole. Big boned?

rubadub · 20-02-2008 05:28PM

humberklog wrote: »

Wonder did bertie nick the tin outta mary's office?

LOL

John_Mc wrote: »

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool :rolleyes:

Anyone who doesnt agree with my opinions is also a bloody fool. FACT!

John_Mc · 20-02-2008 05:32PM

rubadub wrote: »

LOL

Anyone who doesnt agree with my opinions is also a bloody fool. FACT!

OK, let me spell it out for you then... Anyone who thinks the HSE can magically turn around years of mismanagement and planning is a FOOL.

BurnsCarpenter · 20-02-2008 05:39PM

John_Mc wrote: »

OK, let me spell it out for you then... Anyone who thinks the HSE can magically turn around years of mismanagement and planning is a FOOL.

Anyone who thinks the problems in the health service are solely down to mismanagement is ..... misinformed.

humberklog · 20-02-2008 05:40PM

Slowly slowly catch the monkey. Cover'm in batter and eat.

rubadub · 20-02-2008 05:44PM

John_Mc wrote: »

OK, let me spell it out for you then... Anyone who thinks the HSE can magically turn around years of mismanagement and planning is a FOOL.

Fair enough, on reading your previous post it seemed you thought anybody who thought she wasn't doing a good job was a fool.

humberklog · 20-02-2008 05:46PM

BurnsCarpenter wrote: »

Anyone who thinks the problems in the health service are solely down to mismanagement is ..... misinformed.

Indeed it's not just management. The irish nurses are stuck in time warp of systems of best practice,ward sisters are inept (neary case makes point here)and cleaning staff are cruelly beligerant.

humberklog · 20-02-2008 05:50PM

And were left commenting on the size of the ministrers arse? Back to original thread...The 'big-boned/it's hormones'weight problem of our minister doesn't effect her application to the job. Saying that i wouldn't like to get stuck behind her on the stairs.

John_Mc · 20-02-2008 05:50PM

humberklog wrote: »

Indeed it's not just management. The irish nurses are stuck in time warp of systems of best practice,ward sisters are inept (neary case makes point here)and cleaning staff are cruelly beligerant.

One could argue that it's the managements responsibility to ensure that staff are fully trained and kept up-to-date with SOP's.

ScumLord · 20-02-2008 06:00PM

John_Mc wrote: »

So what if she's fat?

Does the Minister of Finance need to be a self made millionaire to be deemed acceptable to fulfil his role?

No but he'll more than likely end up that way after getting the job.

BurnsCarpenter wrote: »

Anyone who thinks the problems in the health service are solely down to mismanagement is ..... misinformed.

I'd say it's at least 90% mismanagement. It has to be the health system just seems to get worse the more money that's put into it. You can argue numbers have gone up but how much of that is due to the mismanagement of less critical illnesses.

I think Mary should be leading by example, she is typical of what doctors say we shouldn't look like. Everyone says obese people are a burden on the health system yet the person in charge of the health system is the biggest chunker of them all. She should seriously look into becoming a figurehead for the nation when it comes to a healthier lifestyle.

javaboy · 20-02-2008 06:00PM

Wossack wrote: »

true, but in the same vein its hard to trust an under nourished chef or a dentist with bad teeth

But what if there's only two barbers in town, one with good hair and one with bad hair. Who do you get your hair cut by?

humberklog · 20-02-2008 06:04PM

Ther's no arguement you are right but only in the context that ireland shares the same social history as that of sweden or holland. We don't. It was a wierd little country built on conspiracies of silence and ivory tower respect. Like a said..slowly,slowly

Peared · 20-02-2008 06:09PM

javaboy wrote: »

But what if there's only two barbers in town, one with good hair and one with bad hair. Who do you get your hair cut by?

An oldie but a goodie.

Amazing the amount of people who straight away say the one with the good hair.

So in the case of Mary Harney this would mean emm, theres another slim Minister for health somewhere and marys a healthy chef?

humberklog · 20-02-2008 06:14PM

Little chef logo?

Sugar Drunk · 20-02-2008 06:27PM

javaboy wrote: »

But what if there's only two barbers in town, one with good hair and one with bad hair. Who do you get your hair cut by?

id go to the one with the bad hair cos its likely the other lad cut it for him. so the fella with the bad hair pribably did the nice cut on the other guy

RoundyMooney · 20-02-2008 06:42PM

You heard it here first folks.

The health service is fooked 'cos Harney is overweight :rolleyes:

briantwin · 20-02-2008 06:55PM

Peared wrote: »

An oldie but a goodie.

Amazing the amount of people who straight away say the one with the good hair.

So in the case of Mary Harney this would mean emm, theres another slim Minister for health somewhere and marys a healthy chef?

This can only be taken in context if Mary Harney has been allowing her dietician to make massive decision with regard to the national health service.

I think that if the government were to maybe encourage her to lose a ton or two. Its simply done. Refuse to give her a lift to the Dail ,ever!! Don't ever let her into the lift, it doesn't matter if she is going to the 9th floor.

Grid. · 20-02-2008 07:00PM

I heard that Pavarotti left her all his clothes!!:D

rubadub · 20-02-2008 07:55PM

briantwin wrote: »

This can only be taken in context if Mary Harney has been allowing her dietician to make massive decision with regard to the national health service.

She probably does though, since I imagine by the state of her, that she is her own dietician, and doesn't have a fuking clue.

Lockstep · 20-02-2008 08:02PM

She's bringing sexy back.

Mary Harney and The Fat

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