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Manchester United Transfer Rumours/Discussion 2007/2008

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Sposs


    If united are going to win it this year, its going to be the hard way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭Brendygg


    jobonar wrote: »
    I knew it! it was always gonna be Arsenal, should be a good game! When is it to be played?

    The 16th or 17th of feb.

    Looks like we'll have to win it the hard way this season. Should be a good game and with everyone fit id predict a home win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Awful draw....with Lyon on the following midweek it's very bad news. With that Lyon game in mind I was really hoping for a non premier league team.

    ...most likely on Feb Sat 16th aswell cos of Champs League. Fergie and Wenger will rest players in that game now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    i am most probably wrong here, but are Lyon not struggling this year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    i am most probably wrong here, but are Lyon not struggling this year?
    http://www.frenchleague.com/ligue1/

    Top of the league, four points clear.

    Not struggling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Indeed, because of the Lyon game, I would have liked to see some players rested.
    That said, I do buy into the logic that if we play Arsenal, and beat them, we got into the Lyon game at a much higher leve.
    It's gona be a very tough ten days.
    City Home - Sun
    Arsenal Home - Sat
    Lyon Away - Wed

    While the A.C. Milan game is on Tuesday (which means that the FA Cup game will defo be on Saterday, probably at 1245) they are at home. This will certainly hurt both teams chances in the CL games, but I can't see either team resting for it.

    As for Lyon, 4 points top of the league is struggling for them. But they are still without a doubt the worst team we could have faced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭Im_No_Superman


    I know its the worst possible draw, but Im looking forward to it. :) It should be good game as both teams should be going for the win as a replay would not be welcome in either camp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Lyon are doing grand this year, however, they did get beat 3-0 by Lens (second from bottom) last weekend so thats always encouraging.

    I think Arsenal fear us more than we fear them. Home draw is an advantage if their celebrations at the Emirates earlier this season is anything to go by.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    i reckon the last time we didnt have a prem league opponent in the FA cup was milwall in the final!!!!

    its unnatural how we have such horrible luck with the draw in it, liverpool get feckin barnsly and chelski have huddersfield??

    the lyon game is gonna be tough enough without having arsenal just before it


  • Posts: 14,379 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When we did the treble we had to beat Liverpool, Arsenal and newcastle as well as a few other Prem sides.


    Just sayin, the hard way isnt always bad. Keeps u sharp.


    Havin said that, I was disgusted! Hopefully we earn a match against Cardiff or Wolves if we get by the Arse.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Aye, but Arsenal have an even tougher game against Milan, so Im not too worried,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    Liverpool, Aston Villa, Portsmouth, Reading (x2), Middlesborough (x2), Watford, Chelsea, Aston Villa, Spurs, Arsenal


    last 10 games in the FA Cup stretching back to the season before last


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭Brian017


    kryogen wrote: »
    i reckon the last time we didnt have a prem league opponent in the FA cup was milwall in the final!!!!

    Burton in 2006??

    Edit: Actually it was Wolves in the 4th Rnd in 2006


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    Nunu wrote: »
    Aftera quick browse at results, I think it's 4 out of 5 for this season...against Kiev, Derby, Everton and Spurs. He missed a vital one against West Ham.

    Thanks Nunu and PHB.

    Looking at his scoring record, it is clearly rising over the years. I also spot from the stats that he has attempted the most at goal, and his play is looking slightly more 'greedy', for want of a better word, but productive, so he is more likely to take a shot when it is half on than feed a pass. Many managers encourage this type of 'greediness' so it is not a fault, and it worked well yesterday when his shot that should have been saved was slightly deflected and squirmed under Cerney, and there are many more cases.

    In terms of comparing C.Ronaldo to George Best, they were different era's so it is a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. The ball is so different now, it flies different and George was playing with a sodden ball. Best also was dsignated as the craft winger tactically and encouraed to beat players and pass the ball into better positions. I'm sure he had a lot of assists. Also, in those days, teams were closer, so playing a team lowe down the table was not likely to lead to a 6-0 win such as what happens in matches against Derby on a regular basis. That difference is there all down through the 20/22 teams. Both are clearly talented players but different, and comparing them on goals scored is a pointless exercise, if you know your football, if you know what I mean.

    Redspider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Indeed, but for me, I'll never be able to compare Best with anyone, because I never really saw him play. Indeed I've never watched a full match with him in it, the same with Pele. As such, I won't try. But nobody has broken those scoring records of Best for quite some time, and I don't think it's a strech to say that Ronaldo may well be the best winger we've had at United since Best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Only 7 away from Best's record after yesterday, with three-and-a-bit months left in the season :)

    When you say George Bests record, is that goals in 1 season for a winger?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Nunu wrote: »
    When you say George Bests record, is that goals for a winger?

    Yes at 32 goals.

    Law holds the record for most goals in a single season with 46. RVN is second in that list with 44.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Yes at 32 goals.

    Law holds the record for most goals in a single season with 46. RVN is second in that list with 44.

    Ah good oul Ruud. Despite the club on the field not missing him I have to say as a fan I sorely miss him. He was an incredible striker for us. History will show he played in a Utd team that was sort of in transition so his medal haul was not what it could have been.
    I hope in the long term he is remembered as a Utd great. He averaged 30 goals a season in his 5 years for us (and 1 year was beseiged by injury) - Phenomenol!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,633 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Is Best's record of 32 inclusive of league games only or all competitions?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Is Best's record of 32 inclusive of league games only or all competitions?

    All comps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,633 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    All comps.

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    i am pretty confident he will break that record, i mean he has 25 goals in his last 23 games!! strike rate isnt too bad.......i reckon hes pretty sure to score 8 more goals between now and may!

    does anyone know a definitive round that Angola need to get to for Manucho to probably get a WP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Fifa rules "He must have played in 75% of internationals for his country in the two years before the application, while the player's country must regularly make the top 70 world rankings."

    Angola are currently 72, a good showing will probably move them up into the top 70 so that is probably ok. He currently has 15 caps, however i have no idea how many times Angola has played in the last two years, but I doubt it would be alot more.

    I suspect he will get a work permit, it might take an appeal, but Utd are normally good a securing these things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Angola are currently 72, a good showing will probably move them up into the top 70 so that is probably ok. He currently has 15 caps, however i have no idea how many times Angola has played in the last two years, but I doubt it would be alot more.
    They've played 27 times in the past 2 years including friendlies according to Soccerway.
    http://soccerway.com/teams/angola/angola/results


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    so hes not played in 75% then........aye an appeal it is so! i assume they will move up if they go past the 2nd round, possible even if they get out of the group?

    hes only played just over 50% of the games though so it might be tough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    DesF wrote: »
    How many of his goals were against Top 6 opposition?

    thats pathetic des, really is. how many of the top players/scorers in the premiership have scored against to top 6 then? i can remember gerrard has 2 i think, torres 1, drogba, not sure if he has any??, fabregas has 2, adebayor, has 1, maybe 2, again not sure,anelka 1, benjani 1 or 2.

    ronaldo is also top scorer in europe. every game for united is a big game, 3 points against liverpool is the same as 3 points against boro or bolton. arsenal found that to their cost last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    every game for united is a big game, 3 points against liverpool is the same as 3 points against boro or bolton.
    Ah no I wouldn't say that now... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    United jumps into £50m mobile deal in India

    Manchester United has forged a pact with Anil Ambani, the second-richest man in India, as the Premiership football team moves to extend its global fanbase through a series of mobile phone-based games.

    Local sources expect a three-year deal agreed by Jump Games, a software developer owned by Mr Ambani's Reliance Entertainment business, and Manchester United to be worth about £50 million.

    The two sides will share revenues from football-themed games that will be distributed globally through mobile handsets at prices ranging from about £3 in the UK to 50 rupees (64p) in India.

    The tie-up comes amid persistent rumours that Mr Ambani, who has suggested that he aims to be among the world's five biggest video games developers, is keen to expand across the technology sector. It has been suggested that he is mulling a bid for a large European IT services house, with CapGemini a possible target.

    His Reliance ADAG conglomerate already sprawls from power generation to cinema theatres.

    The deal may also salve Mr Ambani's annoyance at being beaten in the bidding for one of the eight newly created Indian Premier League (IPL) cricket teams by his estranged brother, Mukesh, last week.

    Mukesh Ambani, the only person in India richer than his brother, spent $111.9 million to buy the Mumbai cricket team, which will play in a new competition modelled on the English football's Premier League. Jump has since claimed that its Manchester United tie-up is more valuable than the IPL franchise.

    Meanwhile, mobile gaming could deliver Manchester United's owner, Malcolm Glazer, a valuable new revenue stream. The US sports tycoon acquired the club, which boasts an estimated 300 million supporters globally, with a highly-leveraged £790 million bid in 2005.

    Mobile handsets are seen as a prime conduit to young consumers in emerging economies, territories in which Manchester United already enjoys massive popularity. Indian mobile phone users are expected to more than double by 2010, to 500 million, as the country leapfrogs the landline technologies that dominated the West's communications industries for decades.

    Jump, which has so far specialised in Hindu-themed games, operates in 40 countries and works with networks including Vodafone, Virgin Mobile and Telefónica. It is committed to developing six football-themed games for Manchester United over the next year.

    Salil Bhargava, the chief executive of Jump, said that his company's experience in India – "one of the fastest-growing, yet cost-savvy mobile societies in the world" – will be drawn upon as the group seeks to go global. "Manchester United is the ideal platform for us," he added.

    In 2005 the parent Reliance ADA Group acquired Adlabs Films, one of the biggest players in Indian film production and cinemas. It has since launched Adlabs Radio and next month will become the largest private FM radio network in the country with 12 stations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    £50m??? Nice....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Nailz wrote: »
    £50m??? Nice....

    It's not just that, it's also a foot in the massive Indian market. India seems to have been left untouched by clubs expanding into the far east and it's something I've always found quite strange. Of course, football is lightyears behind cricket there in terms of popularity but with a population of nearly 1 billion, there's definitely room for more than 1 major sport. £50million is great but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the potential revenues to be gained from the Indian market.

    I'm sure not all United fans are happy to see the "brand" (read club) becoming so commercialised but I for one am delighted to see United leading the field, both on the pitch and off it.


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