Which is the best Plasma option ...

Hygro · 14-09-2007 09:34PM #1

I'm torn now between 3 Plasmas (originally there was just one that I wanted, until I saw the other 2, now I'm just confused).

Can anyone give me any pointers ... the 3 are as follows

Phillips 42PFP5532D
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/en/gb/consumer/cc/_productid_42PFP5532D_05_GB_CONSUMER/widescreen-flat-TV+42PFP5532D-05?proxybuster=CNDOT4EH3ZHB5J0RMRESHP3HKFSEKI5P

Panasonic TH37PY70
http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/panasonic_th37px70.htm

Samsung PS42Q97HDX (I don't know the Irish model number, if anyone can help with it I'd appreciate it)
http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/samsung_ps42q97hdx.htm

Cheers

Keith

big_moe · 14-09-2007 10:31PM

Hygro wrote:

Panasonic TH37PY70
http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/panasonic_th37px70.htm

the irish model for that is TH-37PV70, they aren't bringing the PY70 out in 37"

panasonic for me, i have the 42" and it's a cracker!

although i might be a bit biased towards Panasonic!

moe

uncle_sam_ie · 15-09-2007 09:31AM

Go with the Panasonic. Have a look at Pioneer as well. Both are the gold standard when buying a Plasama.

Hygro · 15-09-2007 06:23PM

Holy crap, saw the Panny 42PV70 and it wiped the floor with the Samsung (which was a couple of feet away).

I think I've found the holy grail

artvandulet · 15-09-2007 06:27PM

Just to confuse the issue, I'd go for the Samsung!:D
What HiFi picked the Samsung over Panasonic too (only just though!)
Reveiw Here
The model number you have is correct. Its the Q97 series.

I'm not familiar with the Philips model so I cant comment on it, but Im sure you can find reviews at Trusted Reviews of all three.

big_moe · 15-09-2007 06:54PM

artvandulet wrote:

What HiFi picked the Samsung over Panasonic too (only just though!)
Reveiw Here

but only because of the price. and they're both 50" so that review doesn't matter to the 42" and 37". as Hygro said, side by side, Panasonic all the way.

moe

Freddie59 · 15-09-2007 08:22PM

Hygro wrote:

Holy crap, saw the Panny 42PV70 and it wiped the floor with the Samsung (which was a couple of feet away).

I think I've found the holy grail

Get the Panasonic (even though I recently purchased a 37" Toshiba myself). Panasonic's pictures are incredible - but the TV is overpriced. Pity really.:(

big_moe · 16-09-2007 03:30AM

Freddie59 wrote:

Panasonic's pictures are incredible - but the TV is overpriced.

i dont think it is overpriced. the 42 PV70 is now €1499. for the quality you're getting in comparison to price, i think it's a really good deal. sure there are cheaper tv's but for a couple of hundred extra, the quality of the panny is worth it.

moe

Hygro · 16-09-2007 11:30AM

I thought it was 1399 ...

http://www.allianceelectric.ie/products/tv/plasmalcd/th42pv70.htm

hmm, I reckon I might go for the samsung, as I was stretching my budget of 1300 for the tv, as it was.

big_moe · 16-09-2007 11:59AM

1499 is the full retail price. some places do it cheaper!

moe

artvandulet · 16-09-2007 07:44PM

big_moe wrote:

but only because of the price. and they're both 50" so that review doesn't matter to the 42" and 37"

Of course it does! They're the same spec as the 50". The only difference is the size.

BTW, Hygro, I'd be interested to know where you saw the two TV's and if the sources were the same on both, if the signal cable used was the same type and if both panels were calibrated properly.
If the answer to all three is yes then surely the Panasonic is for you!

big_moe · 16-09-2007 07:51PM

different sized tvs get different reviews. thats why they review a certain model and not the range.

http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/Panasonic_TH-50PX60.htm

the old 50" panasonic gets 4 stars

http://www.hdtvorg.co.uk/reviews/plasma/Panasonic_TH-37PX60.htm

the old 37" gets 3 stars.

it happens all the time

moe

artvandulet · 16-09-2007 07:57PM

You've just proved my point! Read those 2 reviews you have links to. They are word for word identical except for the model numbers!
The ratings are identical too, except for features, which is odd, as they are identical from what I can see.

Hygro · 17-09-2007 07:08PM

Just to finish this thread off with a happy ending...

I bought the Panasonic TH-42PV70 form Alliance Electric this afternoon

Snake Plisken · 19-09-2007 08:43PM

Hygro wrote:

Just to finish this thread off with a happy ending...

I bought the Panasonic TH-42PV70 form Alliance Electric this afternoon

Good Man, great set, did Alliance give you thr 5 year warrenty from Panasonic, you should have got the form. Mind the set for the first 200 hours. plenty of threads on AVforums on what settings to use for burn in period

Snake

big_moe · 20-09-2007 12:18AM

the 5 year warranty is gone since the 31st august.

moe

JimiMac · 22-11-2007 11:25PM

Hygro wrote: »

Just to finish this thread off with a happy ending...

I bought the Panasonic TH-42PV70 form Alliance Electric this afternoon

Hi Hygro,
what do you think of the set now? Thinking of getting one myself.

trabpc · 23-11-2007 12:00AM

I thought 5 yr warrinty was going till the end of November?

that 42 inch 42PFP5532D is in tesco for an incredible 1500 wit 30%back which still leaves it at €1050.
most places have it for €999 have even seen it in sales for €800.
anyway i think the panasonic 42" is the bust buy of all 3.

well done.

big_moe · 23-11-2007 12:45AM

this is an old thread, i posted that message back in september.

the 5 year warranty has now been extended from 30th november until 24th december due to low stock levels.

moe

trap4 · 26-11-2007 03:23PM

big_moe wrote: »

i dont think it is overpriced. the 42 PV70 is now €1499.
moe

I know that was posted back in September but can someone confirm that I'm not getting confused by model numbers here - Harvey Norman are now advertising the Panasonic TH-42PV70EY for €1099. Is that the same TV or does the EY designate something 'left out'.

Can someone also tell me how the PVs compare to the PXs, or what the difference? After reading other forums I was convinced that the PX70 was the best/only model for me but with that price on the PV it will be hard to pass by. In what way is the PX better (if it is)?

Scobius90 · 26-11-2007 03:42PM

trap4 wrote: »

Panasonic TH-42PV70EY for €1099.

Trap4 are you sure its not the PV7 as opposed to the PV70???
wow if not

and the px70 is the same as the pv70, but the analogue tuner is diff and won't work here in Irl

trap4 · 26-11-2007 04:29PM

We'll I've got to admit it strains my eyes to read the model number because it's printed in such a tiny font but AFAICS it's the model TH-42PV70EY which is priced at €1099. Mind you,... it does add "While stocks last" !!

Thanks for the clarification on the analogue tuner thing Scobius90.

BTW, here's a copy of a post I made to another forum which is seeking further clarification -

"Looking at the Harvey Norman brochure here beside me though I'm still a little confused. They have the Panasonic TH-42PV7EY at €1499 and the TH-42PV70EY at €1099.

Now the latter has very little text attached to it's description while the former has the following - PC input, HD optimizer, advanced 3D colour management, motion pattern noise reduction Viera Link. But I ask you, is all that worth €400 extra? And would you go for the €1099 model or is it missing something important? Thanks in advance."

Scobius90 · 26-11-2007 04:53PM

Trap4,

I just rang HN in Mullingar and they said the price for the PV70 model was 1499
How new is the catalogue and do you think they would honor their advertised prices? even if its a misprint

oh and they are temporally out of stock at the mo as well

big_moe · 26-11-2007 11:46PM

trap4 wrote: »

"Looking at the Harvey Norman brochure here beside me though I'm still a little confused. They have the Panasonic TH-42PV7EY at €1499 and the TH-42PV70EY at €1099."

they've made a bollix of the model numbers. the prices should be the other way around. 1099 for a th42pv7ey and 1499 for the th42pv70ey (actually, to make things even more complicated (!!) the newest pv70's are TH42PV70EYA!!)

moe

big_moe · 26-11-2007 11:48PM

the EY & EYA etc are just country codes and stuff. the important part is the PV70 part

and yeah, the UK models are PX70 and have a DVB tuner but no VHF analogue tuner which is what we need for NTL/Chorus

moe

jmal · 27-11-2007 01:26AM

This might explain things a bit better.

PV7 and PV70 are the exact same screens except for two differences.
The PV7 only has 1 HDMI and 1 Scart connection where as the PV70 has 2 HDMI & 2 Scart connections. Hence the reason for the cheaper price. You will probably find the PV7 is not a standard stocked item.

The PX is the UK version of the same panel.

The NEW model 42PY70 is the FULL HD 1080p version.

Hope this helps.

big_moe · 27-11-2007 08:51AM

jmal wrote: »

PV7 and PV70 are the exact same screens except for two differences.
The PV7 only has 1 HDMI and 1 Scart connection where as the PV70 has 2 HDMI & 2 Scart connections.

no, the PV7 has a different screen that the PV70. the PV70 has a better screen. it has a higher contrast ratio and has more gradation steps (for colours).

the PV7 has 2 scarts as well. the PV70 only has an extra HDMI, everything else is the same.

the PV7 isnt a usually stocked item in most stores. its much better value to buy the PV70. the PV7 sells very well for commercial stuff, but for home use, its the PV70.

moe

Scobius90 · 27-11-2007 12:16PM

:D:D:D

just ordered this Panny TH-42PX70 from http://www.richersounds.ie/

works out at £839.90 incl del which on todays exchange rate is about €1170
have to wait about a week or so for the set, as there is a shortage of supply, but for that money (assuming there isn't a major currency crisis in the next 7-9 days) I can be hugely patient

whohoooo can't wait

jmal · 27-11-2007 01:19PM

no, the PV7 has a different screen that the PV70. the PV70 has a better screen. it has a higher contrast ratio and has more gradation steps (for colours).

the PV7 has 2 scarts as well. the PV70 only has an extra HDMI, everything else is the same.

the PV7 isnt a usually stocked item in most stores. its much better value to buy the PV70. the PV7 sells very well for commercial stuff, but for home use, its the PV70.

moe

Hi Moe.

You were bang on with that one.

Was looking at what I preceved to be a good source for screen info.

Panasonic TH-42PV7

&
Panasonic TH-42PV70EY

Here's the correct spec:

TH42PV70EY:
1080i Digital Processing Chip-Set
1080i Digital Re-mastering Processor
3072 Equivalent Steps of Gradation
Max. 10,000 : 1 Contrast
HD Optimizer
Advanced 3D Colour management
Motion Pattern Noise Reduction
Sub-Pixel Controller
VIERA Link
2 x HDMI Input
High Quality Elegant Design
PC Input

& the

TH42PV7EY:
Max 8000:1 Contrast
1 x HDMI Input
PC Input
2,048 Equivalent Steps of Gradation
HD Optimizer
Advanced 3D Colour Management
Motion Pattern Noise Reduction
Viera Link.

jmal · 27-11-2007 01:30PM

just ordered this Panny TH-42PX70 from http://www.richersounds.ie/

works out at £839.90 incl del which on todays exchange rate is about €1170

Thats some price Scobius for the PX70. Will you have any issues with the PX's Digital Tuner over the PV's UHF-VHF Tunner.

Did you get the FREE 5 Year warranty with that unit?

Padraig Mor · 27-11-2007 01:59PM

I picked up the TH-42PV70 from Topvision a few months ago for €1100 and have to say that I'm *really* happy with it - no artefacts visible at normal viewing distance and the set itself looks great!

As mentioned above, the PX70 includes a digital tuner (for the UK), while the PV70 has a VHF tuner (for terrestrial broadcasts here - although most are on UHF IIRC?). However, AFAIK if you're only using Sky/NTL etc, it won't matter which set you get. Keep an eye out too for the PX71 which IIRC has a couple of extra features over the PV/X70.

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