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Do you take Cocaine

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  • #122
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Drugs are a sign of weakness only to those who think drugs are something that need to be resisted.
    DaveMcG wrote: »
    Interesting point.

    Are you saying that they shouldn't be, or that they are a good thing?

    NTM


  • #123
    kowloon
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    I won't drink something if i don't know whats in it, by extension that rules out drugs from dodgy sources (and that includes a lot of legal muck).

    I wish i was as well off as those who can afford a cocaine addiction though :D

    Good for toothaches ;)


  • #124
    cardshark202
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    I don't take it because I'm not mentally retarded in any way which is pretty handy tbh


  • #125
    RoyalMarine
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    well going on the poll results, then 48 out of 325 of you have directly helped gang warfare, murderer's and drug smugulling!!

    well done to you brave people.

    i hope it was worth it.


  • #126
    togster
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    RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

    i hope it was worth it.

    Not really but sure sh!t happens


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  • #127
    starn
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    Never tried it. Weak ticker. But as far as I can see it turns people in to dicks,
    Once saw someone snort glucose thinking it was coke. Turned into a maniac, wonder how much of it is just in people head


  • #128
    Timothy Bryce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭Timothy Bryce


    Had some lovely Bronson this morning - great pick-me-up!


  • #129
    maryjane1
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    i cant see the point myself. it is rampant though and that scares me having kids nearing their teens.


  • #130
    Femelade
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    i never have and i never will take coke. i know a few people who do though.


  • #131
    kmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    DE drink is way worse. Cocaine is highly addictive but in general i would say it is too expensive to make as much of a dent as the booze does.

    * Alcohol intake is a factor in 40% of all fatal road accidents in Ireland and in 30% of all road accidents.
    * 35% of sexually active teenagers say alcohol is a factor in their engaging in sex.
    * Sexually transmitted infections have increased by 165% in the last decade, with 8,900 cases reported in 2000 alone.
    * 48% of all criminal offences are alcohol-related. This includes 88% of public order offences, 48% of offences against the person and 54% of all criminal damage offences. These refer only to offences committed by adults.
    o Over the 5-year period 1996 - 2001, public order offences alone had increased from 16,384 to 42,754.
    * 370% increase in intoxication in public places by underage drinkers since 1996.
    * One in four (25%) of those attending hospital A & E (Casualty) departments have an alcohol-related injury/illness. One in eight (13%) present in a state of clinical intoxication.
    * 26% of male and 11% of female first admissions to psychiatric services are for alcohol-related conditions (1999 figures).
    * 30% of all male patients and 8% of female patients in an Irish general hospital were found to have an underlying and unidentified alcohol abuse or dependency problem.
    * 34% of those seeking legal advice due to marital breakdown cite alcohol as the main cause of their marital problems.
    * The economic cost of alcohol-related problems in Ireland was roughly 2.37 billion euro in 1999 (1.7% of GDP). This figure encompassed healthcare costs, accidents, crime, absenteeism, transfer payments and lost taxes. It represents 60% of the total revenue from alcohol to the Exchequer for that year.

    http://www.healthpromotion.ie/topics/alcohol/alcofacts/statistics/

    Considering Fianna Fail are the known as the 'Publican Party' (remember when McDowell tried to bring in the cafe society) it is unlikely the sellers of alcohol will ever feel the same wrath from the public as 'evil' drugs gangs. On the other hand I drink like a fish whenever I can so what do I know.


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  • #132
    [Deleted User]
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    One of the only out of my group that don't, never had an interest.


  • #133
    Terry
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    maryjane1 wrote: »
    i cant see the point myself. it is rampant though and that scares me having kids nearing their teens.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mary+jane :)


    kmick wrote: »
    DE drink is way worse. Cocaine is highly addictive but in general i would say it is too expensive to make as much of a dent as the booze does.
    Alcohol is widespread and legally available. Comparisons with illegal drugs are pointless because you can never get a proper baseline reading.
    * 35% of sexually active teenagers say alcohol is a factor in their engaging in sex.
    Sex isn't a bad thing.
    It's surveys like this which have many people believing there is still something dirty about having sex.


  • #134
    Timothy Bryce
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    Aw man the chop is great. Make you feel amazing and dance really well!

    Wooo!


  • #135
    Terry
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    Shut up.


  • #136
    cornbb
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    Terry wrote: »
    Alcohol is widespread and legally available. Comparisons with illegal drugs are pointless because you can never get a proper baseline reading.

    Legality is beside the point. No matter how you interpret the figures, its very difficult to argue that excessive alcohol consumption is not responsible for far more damage to Irish society, health, family breakups, crime figures etc, than any other drug, regardless of legality.

    I'm not using this as an argument in favour of legalising coke/dope, but a lot of Irish people need to look a bit closer to home when giving out about "drugs" (i.e. illegal drugs). Not that the majority of people that drink are a problem, its people who do stupid, aggressive or violent things when they are excessively drunk. A far bigger problem than stoners/cokeheads etc, IMO.

    Edit: But you are correct about it being impossible to get a baseline reading. Because of differing legal statuses a lot of crimes/incidents caused by illegal drug use slip through the cracks, e.g. there are no reliable figures showing how many people drive under the influence of coke.


  • #137
    Timothy Bryce
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    Terry wrote: »
    Shut up.

    No thanks.


  • #138
    kmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    Terry wrote: »
    Alcohol is widespread and legally available. Comparisons with illegal drugs are pointless because you can never get a proper baseline reading.

    Im not comparing them Im saying alcohol is way worse then cocaine in the amount of damage it does to Irish society.
    Terry wrote: »
    Sex isn't a bad thing.
    It's surveys like this which have many people believing there is still something dirty about having sex.

    I believe the point is they engage in sexual encounters they might not have while sober. Also the sex tends to be riskier - without protection etc.


  • #139
    kelle
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    kmick wrote: »
    DE drink is way worse. Cocaine is highly addictive but in general i would say it is too expensive to make as much of a dent as the booze does.

    * Alcohol intake is a factor in 40% of all fatal road accidents in Ireland and in 30% of all road accidents.
    * 35% of sexually active teenagers say alcohol is a factor in their engaging in sex.
    * Sexually transmitted infections have increased by 165% in the last decade, with 8,900 cases reported in 2000 alone.
    * 48% of all criminal offences are alcohol-related. This includes 88% of public order offences, 48% of offences against the person and 54% of all criminal damage offences. These refer only to offences committed by adults.
    o Over the 5-year period 1996 - 2001, public order offences alone had increased from 16,384 to 42,754.
    * 370% increase in intoxication in public places by underage drinkers since 1996.
    * One in four (25%) of those attending hospital A & E (Casualty) departments have an alcohol-related injury/illness. One in eight (13%) present in a state of clinical intoxication.
    * 26% of male and 11% of female first admissions to psychiatric services are for alcohol-related conditions (1999 figures).
    * 30% of all male patients and 8% of female patients in an Irish general hospital were found to have an underlying and unidentified alcohol abuse or dependency problem.
    * 34% of those seeking legal advice due to marital breakdown cite alcohol as the main cause of their marital problems.
    * The economic cost of alcohol-related problems in Ireland was roughly 2.37 billion euro in 1999 (1.7% of GDP). This figure encompassed healthcare costs, accidents, crime, absenteeism, transfer payments and lost taxes. It represents 60% of the total revenue from alcohol to the Exchequer for that year.
    Working in a job that deals with drunks and those high on drugs, I can come to one conclusion - you know what you're dealing with when it comes to drink, but you don't know what you're dealing with when it comes to drugs.


  • #140
    Terry
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    kmick wrote: »
    I believe the point is they engage in sexual encounters they might not have while sober. Also the sex tends to be riskier - without protection etc.
    I don't have figures to back it up, but I would imagine that STI's are less prevalent amongst teenagers. With the possible exception of thrush, which can come about from use of certain medications and then be passed from one person to another. Easily curable though.

    Most teenagers would not have multiple partners, despite what they may tell you.


  • #141
    Rob_l
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    kelle wrote: »
    Working in a job that deals with drunks and those high on drugs, I can come to one conclusion - you know what you're dealing with when it comes to drink, but you don't know what you're dealing with when it comes to drugs.

    oh come on now thats the old better the divil you know attitude


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  • #142
    DarkJager
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    Probably the most pointless and worthless drug in existence (alongside heroin and crystal meth). Give me a bag of weed any day over a bag of coke. My recreational use stretches as far as LSD, and I'd only even touch that twice a year max. As one poster said, anything outside the Dark 3 (Coke, Heroin and Crystal Meth) is fair game.


  • #143
    _blank_
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    Never took coke, seen too many people act the arsehole on it. It just changes people for the worst. Everyone who takes it, no exceptions. If you say it doesn't, you are in the egyptian river.

    Have done pills and loved them. Not in a few years though.

    Took heroin once, but that was just for experimenting purposes. Wouldn't do it again, it fúcks up too many people.

    Drink regularly, but stopped getting rat-arsed about a year ago. Was acting too much like an arsehole when I was rat-arsed, so cut it right down.

    I don't smoke cannabis, in any form. Have tried hash and grass, but they just don't agree with me. Same way I don't like coffee I suppose, I just don't like the effect THC has on me, so I don't smoke it.

    Have done mushies once, would do them again. In moderation.

    LSD, never even seen a dose of it tbh.


  • #144
    DarkJager
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    Its one problem people always encounter with LSD. They've taken mushrooms and liked what they experienced so they believe LSD is going to be similiar. Unfortunately, thats the wrong way to go into it. LSD is a lot more psychological, really gets in to the dark black places in your mind and depending on your mood, can be a life changing experience or 12 hours of terrifying thoughts and visions.

    I think its also the way most people move on to other drugs. For example, somebody who has done speed a few times, might equate the look and method of taking coke as being the same kind of buzz - thus they consume the same amount and get hooked on it.

    The incident in waterford at the weekend is a prime example of why you should understand the risks and effects of a drug before taking it.


  • #145
    Siogfinsceal
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    mise_me_fein wrote: »
    There were saying that the crowd that took the coke at the 21st on the weekend down the country had a good quality batch and that this is why they got messed up as the normal stuff would not be as pure.

    was this said today? Last i read they were calling it 'a white powder' implying they were not sure it what it was and said gardai will be testing it to see if its ketamine (which will f**k you up a lot worse than coke esp if you mix the 2).

    Cokes everywhere IMO. Its not that harmful unless its cut with something dodgy. Was in a club a while back and one of the lads told me he went into the toilet after the head bouncer (who was always clearly off his head), and the bouncer was so wasted he had left half a line on the cistern.

    I think most people esp those who use drugs would draw a definate line between casually taking coke and taking the likes of heroin and crack - those are a whole different game theres no casual weekend using there.


  • #146
    philstar
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    Its a revalation that so many have voted no, if you were to believe the media half the country is on it.


  • #147
    mise_me_fein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ✭✭✭mise_me_fein


    Siogfinsceal wrote: »

    I think most people esp those who use drugs would draw a definate line between casually taking coke and taking the likes of heroin and crack - those are a whole different game theres no casual weekend using there.

    Yeah the 90% that don't get addicted that is


  • #148
    admiralofthefleet
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    no and i have no interest in it either. i would rather have my pint


  • #149
    ScumLord
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    Siogfinsceal wrote: »
    Cokes everywhere IMO. Its not that harmful unless its cut with something dodgy.
    Coke uncut is seriously dangerous, it's a powerful drug that must be mixed down. It could be just as likely they got a bit that was intended for a dealer that would have mixed it down five or 6 times into the garbage we all know and love in this country.


    I think they've come out and said it was the mix of good coke and alcohol which is a lethal mix.


  • #150
    DarkJager
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    Just reading the Star today, it was supposedly a huge bag of coke that got wet on the way over. The people at the party were "eating" it (obviously didn't understand that this isn't a good thing to do) and in doing so, consumed an amount that would leave anybody in a coma.

    Its a sad story, and just goes to highlight the fact that there are people out there who will take drugs without understanding the dangers.


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  • #151
    Sleepy
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    'Got wet'?

    So that's where the bale ended up;)


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