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RATS lots of Rats

  • 12-10-2007 02:00PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭


    They are everywhere this autumn.

    WE need more owls.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭Roen


    Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Ireland ever have any great numbers of owls at all?

    I seem to remember hearing from a few boffins that they were one of the species that never quite made it here in any numbers.
    I've yet to see one in the wild :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    We had plenty of barn and long eared (I think...) but their habitat was taken away... I see a barn owl frequently in UCD. I'd love to know where the nest is!!

    I also noticed a lot of rats recently in Dublin. At least the buzzards will eat well!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 newsjunky


    boneless wrote: »
    We had plenty of barn and long eared (I think...) but their habitat was taken away... I see a barn owl frequently in UCD. I'd love to know where the nest is!!

    I also noticed a lot of rats recently in Dublin. At least the buzzards will eat well!!

    I live next to UCD and I keep hearing a Barn owl in the small patch of woods by my apartment. Maybe he's nesting there?

    Also, I saw a rat swimming in the canal the other day *shudders*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    newsjunky wrote: »
    I live next to UCD and I keep hearing a Barn owl in the small patch of woods by my apartment. Maybe he's nesting there?

    Also, I saw a rat swimming in the canal the other day *shudders*

    Would you PM me with more detail of what part of UCD you live near? I was onto BirdWatch Ireland about the owl and they are very interested.

    Thanks!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 newsjunky


    Sure, no problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I've a rat problem myself. The feckers are taking over my back garden. I managed to lay poison yesterday so it'll be interesting to see if there's any lessening of activity over the next few nights.

    It got so bad recently that I couldn't go out into the back garden at night for a quiet smoke. Any time I went out there was a flurry of activity in the "hedge" (ok, untamed tangle of weeds & bushes) near the back door & then high-pitched shreiking until I went back indoors. Saturday night one of the rats was brazen enough to walk right up to within a metre of me at the back door & then fecked off again.

    If the poison doesn't take care of things I may need to resort to the heavy-duty strimmer (or can of petrol) & clear back any undergrowth near the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    We had lived where we are for the past ten years, and the mother had fed the birds for the past ten years, and for the past five(since we got a shed) she had thrown the bread on the roof, now all this will stop. The other day she threw the bread up on the roof and when she was in the kitchen saw a rat stroll out, look around, go over to the bread and take it back in. The birds wil suffer now... I'm only interested as i have never EVER seen a rat in real life...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭Roen


    We had lived where we are for the past ten years, and the mother had fed the birds for the past ten years, and for the past five(since we got a shed) she had thrown the bread on the roof, now all this will stop. The other day she threw the bread up on the roof and when she was in the kitchen saw a rat stroll out, look around, go over to the bread and take it back in. The birds wil suffer now... I'm only interested as i have never EVER seen a rat in real life...

    Well they're everywhere to be honest. I'm not sure if those stats about only ever being a maximum of 30 feet from a rat no matter where you are are true, but they are genuinely in every single part of this land, in every environment you can think of.

    I think a suspended bird feeder is the answer to your worries, just tie one or two on to a tree or other highish object and the birds will have somewhere to land and feed away.

    They're pretty cheap from any DIY/garden centre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    Roen wrote: »
    Well they're everywhere to be honest. I'm not sure if those stats about only ever being a maximum of 30 feet from a rat no matter where you are are true, but they are genuinely in every single part of this land, in every environment you can think of.

    I think a suspended bird feeder is the answer to your worries, just tie one or two on to a tree or other highish object and the birds will have somewhere to land and feed away.

    They're pretty cheap from any DIY/garden centre.

    I had rats climb poles to get at the bird feeders!! :mad: They are resourceful animals!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I'll have to get one suspended by air:D... Or maybe try the poison....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    Don't use poison it kills everything that eats it not just rats.
    Rats are everywhere best you can do is just not give them a free lunch.
    If you just buy a few feeders and hang them from something fairly high and use fishing line or something like it to tie it on with, but leave a fairly long length of line between the feeder and whatever you tie it on to.
    Their good at climbing but they shouldn't be able to get a grip on the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Ya i'd be warey of the poison alright... Don't want to killl the innocent birds all the same...I'm guessin rats can climb anything??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    I know a lot of people who use fishing line or fine wire and the rats cant seem to get a grip of it and I've seen a few try,But your going to have rats anyway and as long as you are hygienic and careful around the house you shouldn't have a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭fantasma


    I have heard the best way to get rid of rats is to catch a big one and place him in a box with a secure lid. Wait for a week and then put another rat into the box. The first rat will then eat that rat through sheer hunger. Repeat this process with two to three more rats over a monthly period with the original rat and then relase him into the wild. God help all other rats within radius....any thoughts???This method has ben used by farmers in the past with good results.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    Apart from being very cruel I suspect its just an old wives tale or farmers tale as the case may be and cant see it being effective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭dodgyme


    most modern poisons do not contain the ingredients that harm predatory birds. I think there was some law about this a few years ago. A similar thing was used to removed the lead from fishing weights to protest swans and this had a big effect also. If you have rats in the hedge you have very little choice then to tackle the problem before they enter your house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭myjugsarehuge


    We've had a minor rat problem lately too but we have a big pond and I think they took advantage of any fish pellets that were uneaten in the summer and we just didn't notice they were here till lately. I've got suspended bird feeders too and I've no doubt they scavenge amongst the bits that drop to the floor. All the bird food is kept in the house and they aren't in here - I hope.

    I've been using good old metal "snap ur fingers off" rat traps (never ever set one when you've been drinking). Caught 2 big ones using mini picnic bars as bait. Now the damn kids have eaten all the mini picnic bars and nothing else seems to wedge on the trap as well, cheese, meat etc all pulls off too easily. There only seem to be little baby rats now, I watched one sat on the trap nibbling some cheese but it didn't set it off as it was too lightweight.

    So I bought 2 smaller plastic prebaited mouse traps and seems to be doing the business - didn't catch any last night so hopefully they've all gone.

    It got quite competitive, me vs them, even though I hate killing things and even rescue tiny spiders and daddylonglegs out the house. I can't resist a gleeful grin when I draw back the kitchen curtains and see I have got one of the bast**ds :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭dodgyme


    keep us informed on how you get on. If you know where they are nested you can burn them out. I had to do this during the summer with a wasp nest. Took 2 attempts and alot of petrol and gas flame canisters. Auld fella got stung a few times and they near got me in the eyes a few times. ( thank god I never got laser eye treatment, or I wouldnt have been wearing the glasses to protect me.):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭myjugsarehuge


    Well I didn't catch any last night either, so hopefully thats the end of them. We get owls here by the way, I forgot to say, Long eared owls bred in the trees opposite a couple of summers ago. Used to sit on the bench outside about 9pm with a glass of wine and watch them flying about (where was the damn summer this year? I still can't believe its nearly Christmas and I didn't get a suntan at all)

    The young owls sound like squeaky gates that need oiling, strange sound for a bird. I also saw a barn owl over the garden last year and a friend of mine saw one a few weeks ago so they are still about.

    I sympathise with the wasp problem. I have 2 beehives and I've had a couple of stings, the last one was above my ear and my eye swelled up, looked like I'd gone 5 rounds in a boxing ring :( Wasps are enemy number 1 because they raid the beehives and steal the honey for themselves. I used to just shoo them outside but 'm afraid it was squash the wasp this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭dodgyme


    Thinks it is probably a good idea if you contact birdwatch ireland about the owls. They would be very interested as these beauiful creature are in major danger. And they have a good website also.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭myjugsarehuge


    dodgyme wrote: »
    Thinks it is probably a good idea if you contact birdwatch ireland about the owls. They would be very interested as these beauiful creature are in major danger. And they have a good website also.


    I was a member of Birdwatch Ireland until recently but I've lapsed lol. Do you think they will be interested in the owl sightings. I didn't think they were that "rare". We get hen harriers here too and merlins, I thought they were just interested in real rarities, like European/American migrants like the mourning dove seen recently ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭dodgyme


    no they would be interested in the owls because when they initiate projects for expansion of the population they need to know where they exist in determining the be habitat and feeding patterns and areas to work on. I would report the hen harriers and merlins too. I would only take you 5 mins to do up an email to your local branch. Is there alot of juvenile woodland near you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭myjugsarehuge


    dodgyme wrote: »
    Is there alot of juvenile woodland near you?

    Yes there is a lot of young forestry within a 15 mile radius, well all ages of forestry, and we have an expanse of blanket bog nearby as well. The Cork branch guy never got back to me when I emailed him about something before, I'll dig an old copy of Wings out and see who else I can get hold of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    To the posters who are against laying poison for rats - if the poison is laid correctly there is very, very little chance of a birds or other animals from coming in contact with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    I know that it can be used responsibly but a lot of people tend to be careless with it and even when used responsibly sometimes other animals like shrews, wood mice,wrens and robins cant still get at it.
    And in general unless you have a fairly big population of them they wont do much harm and their around you anyway whether you see them or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,883 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Rat poison laid by amateurs caused the death of several pet cats in this area recently. Whether they ate dead rodents or the poison itself we never found out. The vet was pretty sure it was Warfarin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,883 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Definitely a good idea. Like all rodents, rats like a bit of cover. Keep a strip clear of scrub etc at least one metre wide on the approaches to your house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    If you do have a rat problem - the best course of action is to call your Health Board & they will lay the poison for you. They've laid two lots of poison over the past couple of weeks for ourselves & our neighbours, & are due back again this week to check up on the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭dodgyme


    big loada them on the road yesterday. I stopped the car and waited for them to cross to run them over. Missed one. Anyhow on the way back saw a few dead from where other cars got them. I have seen upto 20 rats in the last 2 month I reckon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭myjugsarehuge


    Unfortunately mine seem to have decamped to under the chicken shed (sensible rats lol) I noticed a small "tunnel" between the concrete blocks that form the entrance steps. The big metal rat trap is the way to get them, but not tonight in this weather, they can have a reprieve until it stops raining. Bad enough setting the trap in the dry, a real finger snapper.


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