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Irish Ferries Normandy or Celticlink Ferries to France

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    cormie wrote: »
    I'm heading to France next week in my van, I'm shocked really, it's €99 each way if booked early (I didn't book early enough so it's €120). The return trip is costing something like €240, compared to a return trip for a van to the UK which is about €400. What's that about?
    Don't worry, you'll end up spending the difference on board! Seriously though, the longer the crossing the more revenue extracting potential there is. Also their ship is a floating sh**heap so they have to cut prices to compete.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    ninja900 wrote: »
    Don't worry, you'll end up spending the difference on board! Seriously though, the longer the crossing the more revenue extracting potential there is. Also their ship is a floating sh**heap so they have to cut prices to compete.

    I'll bring a packed breakfast, lunch and dinner I think:D

    So I wont get to sail the shiney new Oscar Wilde or whatever it's called yet? Been watching a lot of "seconds from distaster"/"situation critical" on discovery lately. Old ships aren't the safest, stop scaring me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    obviously depends on where in France you wanna go, but I'd be on the Pont Aven all the way. Brittany Ferries' ship is only 4or5 years old and this year is non smoking aboard. the cabins are actually reasonably spacious and 660ml bottle of heineken EUR4.40.

    you arrive at ~7am so you get to where you're going fairly easily.

    I'd bet if you had a problem with your ticker they'd have an AED too.
    The sooner the Normandy gets turned into gillette seven blade razors the better. I've been aboard warships with more creature comforts.

    times are limited to leaving /arriving on saturdays though

    last year we only had to show passports arriving back in cork, just drive off the ferry in Roscoff.
    this year our boot got searched in cork going out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,591 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    ninja900 wrote: »
    Don't worry, you'll end up spending the difference on board! Seriously though, the longer the crossing the more revenue extracting potential there is. Also their ship is a floating sh**heap so they have to cut prices to compete.

    yeah, but how much money would you end up spending in motorway services on your way through england?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    cormie wrote: »
    I'll bring a packed breakfast, lunch and dinner I think:D
    Bring a good book also as there isn't anything to do and the bar plays that "My Irish Molly" shíte at night!
    Don't forget your AA Europe card either! :D
    Brittany Ferries' ship is only 4or5 years old and this year is non smoking aboard.
    I presume you mean indoors but not on deck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭jrar


    obviously depends on where in France you wanna go, but I'd be on the Pont Aven all the way.

    times are limited to leaving /arriving on saturdays though

    That's the downside with the BF option esp. as most self-catering accomm. in France runs Sat. to Sat. so you end up giving up a day at the start of your holiday and having to leave a day early to get back in time for the sailing.

    Other than that, they've a good set-up IF the drive to Cork suits one location-wise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭cwynnes


    Back in the good days of 2005 with the Irish ferries dispute kicking off,
    Being one of the passengers caught on the boat for i dont know how long it was delayed i do have to say fair play to Irish ferries, they handled it well and i had a great time on board, the staff were very friendly and everyone was in good spirits on board.

    So basically from my experience i certainly wouldnt be put off using Irish ferries, in fact id have no problem using them again in the future.

    They had their problems yes but they handled it as best they could at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,699 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    kbannon wrote: »
    I presume you mean indoors but not on deck!
    In rough weather, you may not be allowed outside. :D
    Dub13 wrote: »
    Looks good,is she brand new...?
    No, see below. The photos have her carrying another name. http://www.irishferries.com/Image/herald/plpix/ext_7X4.jpg

    I wonder if the cabins are actually this big. :Dhttp://www.irishferries.com/Image/herald/plpix/cabin052_t.jpg

    http://www.irishferries.com/Image/oscar_wilde/OscarWildeFlyerMedRes.pdf

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Oscar_Wilde

    http://literarystandard.com/archive/archive07-07.html
    23 July 2007
    O'er the Snotgreen Sea
    Last month the Literary Standard reported on Irish Ferries' new advertising campaign, which highlights writers who escaped the island (and sometimes returned) via ferry. Now Irish Ferries is replacing the Normandy, which plies the waters between Ireland and France. And it has decided to name the Normandy's replacement the Oscar Wilde. It's a new name for an old ship. What will become the Oscar Wilde is currently the Kronprins Harald, and it's operated by a Norwegian firm named Color Line. It was built in Turku, Finland, in 1987, and will be refurbished beginning in September. The press release notes that this will be the third literary-themed Irish Ferries vessel, following the Ulysses (the world's largest car ferry, connecting Dublin and Holyhead and named after James Joyce's novel) and the Jonathan Swift. It also promises "children's play areas and other passenger facilities in themes that will reflect the link with Oscar Wilde." One can only imagine.

    http://www.irishferries.com/News/2007/071009.shtml
    ‘Oscar Wilde’ Chosen As Name For New Irish Ferries’ Ireland/France Cruise Ferryl

    Irish Ferries has announced that its new Ireland/France cruise ferry, purchased to replace its present vessel 'Normandy' on routes between Rosslare, Cherbourg and Roscoff, will be given the name ‘Oscar Wilde’ before it enters service ahead of the 2008 season.

    The vessel will be renamed ‘Oscar Wilde’ after it completes its programme on the Baltic Sea route between Oslo and Kiel where it is currently operating under a charter arrangement agreed between Irish Ferries and its previous owners, Norwegian ferry operator Color Line, from whom it was purchased last January at a cost of €45million.

    In choosing the name ‘Oscar Wilde’, Irish Ferries was influenced by the exceedingly high regard in which the writer and his works are held internationally.

    Born in Dublin and renowned for his characteristic wit, Wilde is universally acclaimed as one of the most celebrated Irish writers. One major factor which influenced the choice of name was Wilde’s close association with France, the country from which Irish Ferries carries a significant proportion of its passenger volume. After leaving Reading prison in 1897, Wilde took up residence in Berneval-sur-Mer near Dieppe where he wrote ‘The Ballad of Reading Gaol’. Exiled for many years in Paris, he died and was buried there in November 1900.

    Newer and significantly more luxurious than the vessel it replaces, the
    ‘Oscar Wilde’ will be the third vessel in the Irish Ferries fleet whose name has been inspired by a leading figure from the world of Irish literature. Other examples are their Dublin-Holyhead cruise ferry ‘Ulysses’ (still the world’s largest car ferry) whose name is derived from the work of writer James Joyce, and their Dublin-Holyhead fast ferry ‘Jonathan Swift’.
    The ‘Oscar Wilde’, currently operating under the name 'Kronprins Harald', was built in Turku, Finland in 1987. At 31,914 gross registered tonnes, it is substantially larger than the 'Normandy'. With sleeker lines and excellent sea going qualities, it will have a faster speed of 21.5 knots delivered by four more powerful engines saving one hour on current crossing times.

    With eleven decks, it will carry up to 1,458 passengers and 580 cars - an increase of 160 cars/40%. Its extra vehicle lane metres (1,220 versus 645) will be reflected in significantly greater freight vehicle capacity (62 units versus 43). Other good news for car and freight drivers alike is the fact that cars will have their own deck separate from the freight deck.

    Under current plans, it is expected that the vessel will be taken in charge by Irish Ferries in early September after which it will spend an approximately four weeks period in dry dock so that some necessary changes and minor modifications can be carried out. This process will include the restyling of restaurants, bistros, lounge bars, children’s play areas and other passenger facilities in themes that will reflect the link with Oscar Wilde. It will also include some technical improvements and re-branding in Irish Ferries livery.

    Passengers will be impressed with the range and quality of cabins on board. All ensuite, they range from standard 2 Berth to luxurious De Luxe with flat screen TV, minibar and sofa, a significant improvement on the current style of cabin on the Normandy.

    Commenting, Irish Ferries Marketing Director, Tony Kelly said ‘given the enormous affection and respect which Oscar Wilde commands in Ireland, France and throughout continental Europe, our new vessel, with its new name and modern on-board facilities, will present us with wide-ranging opportunities to re-brand and revitalise our Ireland/France service in a manner that will have very positive benefits in the future’.

    ‘Bigger, better and faster than the vessel it will replace, with greater car and freight capacity, more berths and a wider choice of stylish cabin accommodation, the ‘Oscar Wilde’ will bring new standards of comfort and luxury to our long established Ireland - France service’, Mr. Kelly said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Wonder will the prices stay the same on good oul Oscar?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    cwynnes wrote: »
    Back in the good days of 2005 with the Irish ferries dispute kicking off,
    Being one of the passengers caught on the boat for i dont know how long it was delayed i do have to say fair play to Irish ferries, they handled it well and i had a great time on board, the staff were very friendly and everyone was in good spirits on board.

    So basically from my experience i certainly wouldnt be put off using Irish ferries, in fact id have no problem using them again in the future.

    They had their problems yes but they handled it as best they could at the time
    That must have been a different voyage from when I was stranded in Roscoff.
    There was very little fresh food, there was nothing to do apart from watching the protesters of listening to "My Irish Molly" in the bar,
    I don't recall anyone having a great time on board - my conversations with people on board were generally about their worry of when we would get off and how they had a long drive ahead of them!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭D'Peoples Voice


    Are there any signs that eiother the Pont Aven(Plymouth to Santander) or the Isle of Inishmore(Rosslare to Pembroke) are going to switch over to biodiesel anytime soon.
    Talk about pollution, I've never seen engines emit so much smoke.
    To think that Santander have their bus fleet completely on biofuel,
    whats the point?
    Along comes the Pont Aven and emits more CO2 in one afternoon than several conventional buses would in a week combined!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,591 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    never mind biofuel - why not just add some big sails?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Are there any signs that eiother the Pont Aven(Plymouth to Santander) or the Isle of Inishmore(Rosslare to Pembroke) are going to switch over to biodiesel anytime soon.
    Do you have any idea of the land that would use up, energy required to produce and refine, effect on food prices, etc?
    Biofuels are very far from being the panacea some people think.
    Talk about pollution, I've never seen engines emit so much smoke.
    Part of the reason that fast ferries are feeling the pinch is that they have to use high grade fuels, as well as more fuel per passenger. (the other reason being low cost airlines)
    Conventional ships burn heavy fuel oils / bunker oil which is dirty but cheap.
    Along comes the Pont Aven and emits more CO2 in one afternoon than several conventional buses would in a week combined!:mad:
    It would still emit CO2 on biofuel!
    Anyway visible smoke, or lack of it, has nothing to do with CO2 output. Some people think that smoke counteracts global warming by blocking solar radiation :eek:

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,852 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Along comes the Pont Aven and emits more CO2 in one afternoon than several conventional buses would in a week combined!:mad:
    Maybe so, but you can't get a bus to France! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Ok, I'm off to France tomorrow (still haven't booked the ferry:o) and I want to get a bed with an en suite shower + toilet. I see here it says you can just take one bed in a cabin for half the price of the cabin but it could mean you'd end up sharing the cabin.

    There's 9 2 bed en suits left (and there has been for the past 2 weeks or so) so I'm guessing the chances of sharing are slim. However, I just rang up to see what the story was and was told they don't share cabins anymore? I'm using wirecard.com and don't actually have enough for the sailing and the full price cabin on my card at the moment so was thinking of just booking the sailing now and paying for the cabin on the ship since there's still loads left. If I went to pay and only had €35 (50% of cabin price) on me, what's the story? Am I legally entitled to it for that price since it's advertised that I only have to pay half for one bed I wonder?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Gvillage


    Recently me and my family went to France on Celtic Link's new ferry the Norman Voyager. We had been trying to go with Irish Ferries but I was not able to book for any dates in January on their website for some reason.. Instead, I went on to Celtic Link Ferries website and booked it with them.

    The ship did not have as many "bells and whistles" as the Irish Ferries ship but I could not say one bad thing about it. It is perfect for anybody just wanting to go to France while keeping an eye on their money. It had a cinema, it had nice food and a bar too. The ship also seemed new too.

    I am trying to get tickets for the France-Ireland Six Nations game next month and I will definetly go with Celtic Link.;)


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