Arsenal Transfer Rumours And General Chat

Royale with Cheese · 04-09-2007 02:04PM

Bentley would be useful in the Arsenal squad right now. Stokes wouldn't be needed. Pennant is starting to look like he might actually be ok but you can't blame Arsenal for getting rid of him. He had behavioural problems & was never that great on the pitch.

It was pretty tough for young wingers to get in ahead of Pires & Ljungberg a few years ago.

kryogen · 04-09-2007 02:14PM

i heard wengers interview where he was saying he didnt want lots of money and that he like getting the young players and working with them, ok fair enough. but then should he not just be a youth team coach!! no offence intended here at all, i like wenger,i begrudgingly like arsenal, always have.... but why would any manager say he doesnt want money! i mean as a manager surely you want everything you can get to strenghten your squad, use all facilitys available and utilise the financial success that you have helped bring to the club.

i think his policy on young players is starting to hurt arsenal, this is a big season for you in my opinion, you have started the season well, and i think it needs to continue or you should start asking questions about the set up. what happened to the team that went unbeaten all season? why were players from that sold that summer! same as when petit and overmars were sold after you had won a league....vital elements of the team seem to be sold after success, i dont understand it myself.

i think this arsenal team will be great in 5 years, but if i was an arsenal fan i would be questioning the transfer policy at this stage, and especially if there is no improvement this time round.to be a top club you need to have consistent success. you dont want to be the next blackburn anyway! winning the league then returning to mid table anonymity. i think the team has been in decline the last couple of years and something needs to change there, maybe with Henry leaving thats the change you needed. we will see at the end of the season i guess!

AnCapaillMor · 04-09-2007 03:09PM

Overmars wanted out, and 32m for the 2 still is great money even now. I think the financial side is'nt as rosey as they pretend. They're not in huge debt, but i reckon they can't splash out either. buidling a stadium in london is'nt exactly the cheapest. i think his no buying excuse make sense, but i also reckon there's finance involved too.

with Kronky and the russian mafia looming to take over they have to keep a good appearance, any hint of problems and they'll swoop.

Pepe LeFrits · 04-09-2007 04:39PM

PDN wrote:

The thing is that a 'promising' young English (or Irish) player is unlikely to be good enough to play for Arsenal. That's why the likes of Stokes & Bentley have to eventually go elsewhere to become Premiership players (although Hoyte & Walcott may prove me wrong!).

That's true, although I think the standard of English players at the club is improving. Wenger has really changed the young structure at the club since he arrived; he's spoken a lot about how a player's early years are key to the development of their technical ability and a lot of the players coming through now and over the next few years will benefit from Arsenal's better youth training setup. Bentley was one who developed excellent techique there but there are more coming through like Lansbury who have been at Wenger's Arsenal since childhood and are very well developed technically for English players.

Though at the end of the day, England's footballing population accounts for only a very small percentage of the world total and as a logical result, they account for only a very small percentage of the world's most talented footballers.

PDN · 04-09-2007 09:14PM

AnCapaillMor wrote:

buidling a stadium in london is'nt exactly the cheapest.

I heard somewhere that just getting the planning permission sorted for the Emirates Stadium cost more than the entire construction costs of Southampton's St. Mary's ground.

Gangsta · 04-09-2007 10:17PM

Galvasean wrote:

I still remember Mourinho's taunt at Wenger after the Carling Cup final:
"I wish i had five years to build a team without winning any championships"
:rolleyes: Yes and I bet Wenger wouldn't mind unlimited transfer funds too.

Wow don't remember hearing that. I never really liked that guy....new hairdo doesn't really help either:p

Joeyjoejoe43 · 04-09-2007 10:24PM

kryogen wrote:

i think his policy on young players is starting to hurt arsenal

I disagree. I believe the cogs are finally falling into place and Arsenal's young players are stepping up to the plate. Hopefully this will be a big year for Arsenal, and even if its not I have faith in this team to win 2 premierships in the next 5 years and hopefully a champions league. Its a little bit like united 10 years ago when Ince, Kanchelkis and some other big guns left old trafford, there was a lot of negative talk, then the likes of Giggs, the Nevilles, Beckham, Scholes, Butt all came through and if memory serves united won one or two trophies

So, my point is Wenger's faith in the young guys WILL pay of in the long run..

Gangsta · 04-09-2007 10:39PM

Joeyjoejoe43 wrote:

I disagree. I believe the cogs are finally falling into place and Arsenal's young players are stepping up to the plate. Hopefully this will be a big year for Arsenal, and even if its not I have faith in this team to win 2 premierships in the next 5 years and hopefully a champions league. Its a little bit like united 10 years ago when Ince, Kanchelkis and some other big guns left old trafford, there was a lot of negative talk, then the likes of Giggs, the Nevilles, Beckham, Scholes, Butt all came through and if memory serves united won one or two trophies So, my point is Wenger's faith in the young guys WILL pay of in the long run..

True, that's what Wenger said his plan was. Yeah by now you can see some similarities and in the near future hopefully there'll be more:)

kryogen · 05-09-2007 01:52PM

i agree completely!! maybe i was misunderstood, but i have said in previous posts that i think the talent in the arsenal squad is immense and i think they could dominate in 3 years time! i was just saying that this is a big year for you lot, its a make or break for me, in that united team we had pallister and bruce still going, and schmeichel, robbo was still there,just about, mcclair,irwin,parker.... there was still plenty of experience in that squad, there was really only the 2 neville brothers, becks, and scholes, giggs had been in the team already! and butt didnt play a huge part in that team...

i think with henry leaving it leaves the door open fot these young and undoubtadly talented players to step up and show theyre worth, thats why i said this is going to be a big year for arsenal......

the myth that it was a youth team that did the double for united that year is just that, a myth! there was plenty of older heads there too, and this is something thats often forgotten... if it had just been the younger players then i dont think we would have won the league that season, and for me the same applies to arsenal, i think a blend of experience and youth is needed, maybe wenger will prove me wrong!

Gangsta · 05-09-2007 02:50PM

Arsenal have experienced players. Toure, Gallas and Gilberto have all won the premiership and even Fabregas has played over 100 games for Arsenal.

Lehmann's won it too

kryogen · 05-09-2007 03:03PM

Gangsta wrote:

Arsenal have experienced players. Toure, Gallas and Gilberto have all won the premiership and even Fabregas has played over 100 games for Arsenal.

Lehmann's won it too

true too!!

as a united fan im actually more worried about arsenal then liverpool this season, if you guys can find the consistency needed then you will definatly be there or there abouts at the end of the season

AnCapaillMor · 05-09-2007 04:42PM

The Pools looking more challenging than they have in a while. they finally bought the right combo.

I want to see us play a few more away games up north beefore i even hope of winning anything. We did the best against the top 4 last, it was our away form up north that really let us down. Normally we we'd be unlucky but last years we were just plain bad in some games. Also all depends how november goes always a disastrous month.

Gangsta · 05-09-2007 05:15PM

Did the best against the top 4 eh?

AnCapaillMor · 05-09-2007 05:42PM

Arsenal Beat united twice, liverpool once, lost one(hammered), drew twice with them, 12 points out of 18.

the pool beat Asenal, lost, Beat them, lost one, lost twice to united 9 points.

United Beat pool X 2, lost to Arsenal X 2, drew twice with them, 8 points.

Them, drew twice with arsenal, twice with united, lost and won to the pool 7 points.

It was the opposite for ages we were almost guranteed to lose to united and the pool.

Gangsta · 05-09-2007 05:46PM

Sorry dude misread your post, thought you supported the pool!

AnCapaillMor · 05-09-2007 06:06PM

Gangsta wrote:

Sorry dude misread your post, thought you supported the pool!

forgiven just as long as did'nt accuse me of supporting 'them'.

Gangsta · 05-09-2007 06:16PM

lol *wipes nervous sweat off brow*

Galvasean · 05-09-2007 08:24PM

Anyone hear of this guy? Sounds pretty good.
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=481109&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Sunu+-+I+turned+down+Chelsea+and+Man+Utd

keano_afc · 05-09-2007 08:39PM

Saw that on the website earlier alright. Sure who knows, he's never been heard of by anyone but thats usually the way they are when they come to us!

AnCapaillMor · 05-09-2007 09:25PM

After alliadere i'll hold off on a decision on how good he'll be.

kinaldo · 06-09-2007 10:05AM

Wenger signs new 3 year deal, Arsenal's future is secure

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/6981442.stm

Royale with Cheese · 06-09-2007 10:24AM

Wahay. All the Arsenal are doomed, mass exodus of players stories can finally stop now. Actually I'm sure the papers will find a new angle to start talking about how much Arsenal are screwed.

Galvasean · 06-09-2007 10:36AM

Royale with Cheese wrote:

Wahay. All the Arsenal are doomed, mass exodus of players stories can finally stop now. Actually I'm sure the papers will find a new angle to start talking about how much Arsenal are screwed.

I'm sure the tabloids are already penning how the Russian mafia are going to melt the Emirates down to scrap iron and sell it off.

Pepe LeFrits · 06-09-2007 10:40AM

The Fabregas-to-Spain-Summer-2008 stories have already begun.

AnCapaillMor · 06-09-2007 12:16PM

Typical Arsenal.con, huge announcment and the site goes down. Great news but can't see anything official yet.

Galvasean · 07-09-2007 11:42AM

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

The Fabregas-to-Spain-Summer-2008 stories have already begun.

*sigh* He's not leaving!
He had the chance to leave last season but said no. Why would he leave now?

Mr Alan · 07-09-2007 12:09PM

tbh i reckon he probably will leave at some stage, in the same way that Rafa will someday manage Real and Alonso will probably go to Barcalona at some point, even young Christiano Ronaldo will no doubt be playing for Real within the next three years......

just my opinion anyway

AnCapaillMor · 07-09-2007 12:19PM

yeah he will leave in a few years, but no madrid, he'll go to Barca.

Mitch Connor · 07-09-2007 12:32PM

Unless Barcelona sell Iniesta, they don't need to spend big (and it would need a big transfer fee) on Fabregas imo - they are very similar. Fabregas' 8 year contract will keep his potential transfer fee massively high for the next 5 years at least.

Galvasean · 07-09-2007 03:18PM

AnCapaillMor wrote:

yeah he will leave in a few years, but no madrid, he'll go to Barca.

After the way they treated him when he was a rookie/

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