Arsenal Transfer Rumours And General Chat

Pepe LeFrits · 24-06-2007 03:11PM

I felt before Henry was sold that Wenger would sign 2 attacking players and now I think he'll sign three. A senior striker, a striker/winger and a young South American winger. The senior striker is obviously now a necessity, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is Anelka. Someone will be coming in very soon I think, so we won't have to wait long to find out. Personally I wouldn't mind Anelka - he'd be a very good fit.

Having been seemingly priced out of moving for Ribery and Malouda, I'm not sure who the striker/winger will be. Tevez will probably be too expensive. It may be a case of another cheaper option - so Babel or Gouffran. There is plenty of money to spend now though, so we may be surprised and have a blockbuster summer.

There have been constant suggestions that we'll be signing one or two young players from South America, and we've been linked to Renato Augusto, Angel DiMaria, Pedro, Andres Guardado and others. Take your pick!

By the way, Kolbeinn Sigthorsson rejected us for AZ Alkmaar, while Kyle Bartley seemingly turned us down for Man City. Disappointing.

PHB · 24-06-2007 03:42PM

Anyone else think now that Henry is gone that Reyes could come back and make his name for Arsenal? There is no denying the guy has talent, but his natural position was quite similar to Henry and I always he had to play somewhat out of position for Arsenal. With Henry gone, he could make it at United. There's no denying that he can do, just look at the month where he got player of the month.

gosplan · 24-06-2007 05:15PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

There have been constant suggestions that we'll be signing one or two young players from South America, and we've been linked to Renato Augusto, Angel DiMaria, Pedro, Andres Guardado and others..

I've heard the Augusto links. Spanish press are saying that Arsenal are signing/have signed a young Brazilian attacking player but they'll print anything.
Some speculation seems to be around Robinho.

As an aside, the article was actually one linking Torres and Arsenal.

redspider · 26-06-2007 08:53AM

Just to comment on the Henry transfer. Its all a bit strange. Its very unusual to have a player so dedicated, at least claiming they are, to a partial owner of a club such as Dein is. Henry wasnt 100% happy before Dein and the other board members had their 'spat' and seemingly irreconcilable differences, and Dein is still a partial owner. But Henry does seem genuine with his grievances over how Dein has been handled.

Also Henry claiming that Wenger wouldnt commit past June 2008 is an unusual factor to bring up. All players who are self-standing know that owners and managers come and go, the club prevails. That's what playing for your club, short and badge are about, even in this modern age of mercenary-ism. And there was nothing to say that Wenger wouldnt sign, unless Henry knows more than us, which is highly probable.

In Henry's case however, he has only been happy under 1 manager, and thats Arsene Wenger, at Monaco and then at Arsenal. Wenger is more than a father figure, he literally is like a father to him and the relationship and body language you see between them is not that of professional footballer and manager, or good buddies, but a father-son thing. Its uncanny really.

Wenger could go to Barcelona perhaps next year, or even before. With only 1 season left on his contract he could have that easily bought out/compensated for if he quits. He is also uncannily and publicly tied to Dein, again somewhat unusual for a Manager who should be able to live with owners coming and going and get on with things, and happily at that.

Henry leaving is not a surprise in itself, but the manner, what he said, the use of the fallout from the Dein 'affair' and even the low price all make this a sorry saga for Arsenal fans. It taints Henry as well.

spareman wrote:

Henry was always going to barcelona .... What he say's about Mr. Dein leaving is just a convienent excuse at this time, If he really loved arsenal it wouldn't matter who was on the board, Wenger will begin talks this week on a new contract and I would be surprised if he walked away from all he has set up for the future at this stage.

I dont think Henry is using it as an excuse. He seems to geuinely feel that way, and that is peculiar.

Wenger has been at Arsenal now for a long time. He sees that with the new stadium, the cost of financing that, there is only so much the club can invest. He has spent wisely and has built a young team, but whether that is enough to keep him there is another story. A lot depends on Dein's situation. Many people think that Dein can just walz back in, with Kronke's money and takeover the club. But its not that easy. The majority owners and potential sellers dont want to sell at this point in time, especially to Dein and Kronke. Its a personal thing.

Also, lets put 2 and 2 together and pick apart what the boardroom spat is really about. Effectively, it would seem that behind the scenes, Dein was angling to make a wad and more than his fellow shareholders by getting preferential teatment in the sale. He was effectively trying to convince his current co-shareholders to sell at a certain lower price, he would do likewise, but at the far side of it Dein would have come out with Kronke 'hand-in-hand'. It also sounded like he had Wenger convinced to be in on it somehow as well, in terms of supporting such a deal and giving it his blessing.

Somehow, the other co-shareholders got wind of this shenanigan or set-up, call it what you will, they got more than upset which is understandable and kicked their former good buddy Dein out. This is a deep personal spat. No-one likes being crossed. Dein wasnt kicked out for good behaviour, that's for sure. So, was it a case of him being too greedy on the back of Arsenal? Perhaps.

Of course I have no proof of this, so it is just a mere theory, a conjecture, but a very plausible one fom reading between the lines I would think. I'm not saying that the other board members are saints either.

Overall, a major transition time for Arsenal FC and the fans .....

Redspider

gosplan · 26-06-2007 09:33AM

So today the three bits of possibly fabricated news seem are:

Tevez is a possibility. To be honest I'd say he is at this stage. Henry, Reyes & Aliadi will net us enough cash to bid for him.
Would be good, based on last year, him plus RVP, if fully fit, would both bag you 20 per season, Ade as backup/other option....I like.
To be honest this is the first possible transfer that I really like the look of. He's fast, skillful, is tested in the premiership and is ever so direct.
Only problem is if Inter or Real come in for him, I can't see him coming to Arsenal.

Babel has said he's staying in Ajax for another year but that he wants play at Arsenal afterwards. This sounds to me like Arsenal made a bid for him and he decided that he doesn't want to leave just yet but was interested.

Lastly, depending on who you listen to, Wenger is being offered a new contract or having a sit down with the board or something like that.
More pay and larger transfer budget if he commits, option to leave after a while if he wants, some say he may demand Dein's return.

Raskolnikov · 26-06-2007 10:49AM

gosplan wrote:

Tevez is a possibility.

I can't see it to be honest. Not when there are clubs like Real Madrid, Juventus and AC Milan knocking at the door.

AnCapaillMor · 26-06-2007 12:07PM

Can't see Tevez, not with who owns him. I heard Arse were interested last year but the minute they heard about the agent status, they ran away very very fast.

Galvasean · 27-06-2007 07:55PM

According to Tevez Inter are his top priority followed by Madrid

LostinBlanch · 27-06-2007 10:27PM

PHB wrote:

Anyone else think now that Henry is gone that Reyes could come back and make his name for Arsenal? There is no denying the guy has talent, but his natural position was quite similar to Henry and I always he had to play somewhat out of position for Arsenal. With Henry gone, he could make it at United. There's no denying that he can do, just look at the month where he got player of the month.

Do you mean Arsenal instead of United?

Personally speaking as a United supporter, I'm not sure Arsenal imploding like they could if Wenger left and wasn't replaced by a good manager would be good for the premiership tbh.

PHB · 27-06-2007 10:28PM

Arsenal yeh

AnCapaillMor · 28-06-2007 07:38AM

Can't find the link and definately not cut and pasting the Arseblog filtered story. But the story goes on about how Wenger going to go for martins for 13M, through a buyout clause(13M, 9M for owen, has ridsdale taken over at newc?). Cool i like Martins, but we lose him for a month in jan\Feb, and worst of all i just heard he's changed agents and is now with Barnetts group.

gosplan · 28-06-2007 08:38AM

I like Martins.

He's a bit out of the usual Arsenal mold but then so is Anelka.

Also Martins is only 22, so provided he doesn't flop at Arsenal(which I can't see happening), any transfer fee will be received back whenever he's sold on.

Good move.

gosplan · 28-06-2007 08:47AM

Also I don't think we'd lose him for the African Cup.

Following some no shows or something for the Nigerian team, the last time he was home, someone tried to kill him.

I think that may be that as far as he and Nigeria are concerned.

PHB · 28-06-2007 09:21AM

I'd be extremely surprised if Martins played for Nigeria again, considering how close he came to death last time.
Martins would be an interesting player for Arsenal, without Henry they will lose a bit of pace up front (as while Van Persie is fast, he isn't Henry fast, Martins however is)

gosplan · 28-06-2007 10:42AM

Also Martins can finish really well.

When RVP is out will Arsenal sorely lack a great finisher, all to well displayed last year when we had the most number of shots on target in the premiership(I think).

Curious to see what everyones opinion of this is.

Galvasean · 28-06-2007 11:46AM

If Martins truly is available at 13million I would definitely want Arsenal to sign him. He is an excellent finisher, something we sorely missed up front last season and very quick. Since he's only 22 he fits in with Wenger's buy young players and nurture them into superstars philosophy.

kronsington · 28-06-2007 01:16PM

while i think martins would be a good, not great, signing, i still think the most important thing is to get more experience into the team.. i know its not wenger's style but maybe even one or two experienced loan signings, maybe someone like ludovic guily.. this wont happen though.. realistically, i would love to see them go for the likes of gamst pedersen, arteta, anelka, yobo, richards, matt taylor, tevez( thats just from england) knowing arsene, he will opt for some relative unknowns who will prosper into gems which is fine, but for the immediate future i would hope for some players would experience at a high level to help our progressively youthful side.

Raskolnikov · 28-06-2007 01:26PM

gosplan wrote:

Also Martins can finish really well.

I think he's quite erratic in terms of finishing ability.

kronsington · 28-06-2007 06:57PM

according to skysports.com inter have dropped their interest in tevez... how much would he cost? 15-20m?

while tevez is not an out-and-out "striker", signing the argentine would go a long way to filling the henry shaped hole in the front line... oba and tevez 30m

Pepe LeFrits · 28-06-2007 09:59PM

kronsington wrote:

according to skysports.com inter have dropped their interest in tevez... how much would he cost? 15-20m?

while tevez is not an out-and-out "striker", signing the argentine would go a long way to filling the henry shaped hole in the front line... oba and tevez 30m

That'd do me! Either could plug a gap at left midfield too if required. Would prefer Tevez and Anelka though to be honest.

Mr Alan · 28-06-2007 10:17PM

think tevez is meant to be valued closer to 30million, insane money

PHB · 29-06-2007 10:30AM

Tevez is gona cost 30 million I think, but I also think nobody will pay it, in which case, he could be loaned again for a year, in which case, there'll be a big fight to get him between the big clubs.

ErinGoBrath · 29-06-2007 10:53AM

Bent to Spurs for 16.5m

Looks like Defoe will definitely be leaving now. Possibly to Arsenal? Would be a great signing IMHO.

Also, reports have it that Tevez has turned down a move to Inter.

gosplan · 29-06-2007 12:21PM

ErinGoBrath wrote:

Looks like Defoe will definitely be leaving now. Possibly to Arsenal? Would be a great signing IMHO.

??? I really fail to see how. Defoe has impressed me in one or maybe two games I've seen him in his career. Generally though he seems to be on the ok side of rubbish.

Mr Alan · 29-06-2007 12:42PM

are you for real?! you've seen him play once, maybe twice and you've come to the conclusion he is on the ok side of rubbish?!!?

Ya cant judge a player after seeing him once! lol

He is a quality player. Not a lot between him and Keane IMO, in actual fact i think he is a considerably better finisher than Keane

Pepe LeFrits · 29-06-2007 12:44PM

Defoe? **** off!

Mitch Connor · 29-06-2007 12:46PM

millersangel wrote:

are you for real?! you've seen him play once, maybe twice and you've come to the conclusion he is on the ok side of rubbish?!!?

Ya cant judge a player after seeing him once! lol

He is a quality player. Not a lot between him and Keane IMO, in actual fact i think he is a considerably better finisher than Keane

no no, defoe has only impressed him in one or two games he has seen him in, not that he has only seen defoe in 1 or 2 games.

Defoe could be Arsenals 'fox in the box'

Mr Alan · 29-06-2007 12:48PM

oops, my apologies!

really need to catch up on my sleep, this copa america is doing me no good!

still think he is an excellent finisher though and a very good player

Mitch Connor · 29-06-2007 01:03PM

millersangel wrote:

oops, my apologies!

really need to catch up on my sleep, this copa america is doing me no good!

still think he is an excellent finisher though and a very good player

He is a good player, and he is a good finisher (some of the goals he has scored have had a real touch of class) But there is something i am just not sure about. He doesn't seem, to me, to have the mindset of a great striker, sometimes he simply makes the wrong run, such as hanging far post instead of nipping goal side on the near post. I'm not sure he'd be the right signing for Arsenal - i think they need someone better. I think he could be a good signing for Liverpool or Man United though, in that he could be signed as a backup striker (backup to Saha/Torres) whereas arsenal need a first choice. Don't know if he'd accept a rotation role at United or Liverpool though - but the discussion would be for the United/Liverpool threads.

wardie · 29-06-2007 06:37PM

Dont agree with signing Defoe. He is an ok striker but nothing exceptional. I would rate Keane a lot higher than him.

Martins was good last year when I saw him and his pace would be a great asset.

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