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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    Congrats to fellows and scholars especially M Brown, D Zisterer, D Kelly, T Connor and V Troll, all great lecturers and academics. :)

    I'm not sure of the details but I think Val Troll left school early and didn't go to college until he saw or heard something that made him interested in volcanoes and then decided he wanted to know a lot about volcanoes. A degree, a phd, a post doc, a lecturship, a head of research group, and a fellowship later, what a legend.

    Also I remember T Connor talking about why he did a PhD. He did a good degree and didn't really know what he wanted to do and weren't too many jobs on the horizon so he took a swing at the Phd. Pioneered the creation of the neursoscience course, again, what a legend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭balzarywex


    dam u seamus and kev!!!...er...i mean...well done....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Aye congrats to Claire_h. That's impressive. I really don't know how anybody gets a 1st in an arts subject...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    &#231 wrote: »
    Know three of them, and one of the new fellows.
    i assume the fellow is david?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    Ok, 3/4 new professors are female. Firstly, congratulations to them.

    Ok, now to the tricky part. Do you think this is because college is trying to increase the number of female professors? I'm not saying any of them are undeserved of their promotion or am I saying some men were over looked. But......

    Am I much too cynical?

    Well over half the scholars are chicks too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    i hate to say it kev but thats the first thing i noticed too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    I haven't looked very closely at the details but

    yes most of the new fellows are women. A high proportion of them appear to be in medicine too. Are the more women in the medical faculty? Maybe the college is trying to increase the number of women fellows. The marriage bar was lifted in the early 70's (73?), it's about time the numbers evened out. Maybe some of the women's groups (I'm thinking of wiser here but prehaps there are others) helped women get their acts together in putting the applications together.


    Over half the students in college are women so the scholar numbers look about right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭xeduCat


    Hang on a second, I think we're a little confused on the role of Fellowship. It's not a promotion. Nor has it anything to do with being a professor. That's a totally separate process that is very different (and much more complicated). Professor in Trinity (as in other Irish/UK unis) is a rank on the promotional scale (i.e. lecturer - senior lecturer - associate prof - prof). Some people are hired at prof but most come in at lecturer and then look for promotion at a later stage.

    Being a Fellow (which is open to profs and non-profs, the sections of the Statutes are slightly different hence the list of fellows and professorial fellows) doesn't mean you get a promotion - it gives you certain entitlements (voting on changes to the statutes, voting for a big chunk of Board members, participating in discussions and debates, part of the 'body corporate' that technically owns the college).

    (Of course this doesn't change debates on gender etc. But it's important not to overstate it, much as it's a nice honour to get, it doesn't turn lecturers into professors or anything like that).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 493 ✭✭King.Penguin


    what's the difference between a professor in TCD, UCD and an ivy league uni?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Awayindahils


    Congrats to all the new scholars especially all of them who I know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭europerson


    what's the difference between a professor in TCD, UCD and an ivy league uni?
    In America, any lecturer is called "Professor", whereas, in Britain and Ireland, professors are a specific rank of lecturer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Tacitha


    Ok, 3/4 new professors are female. Firstly, congratulations to them.

    Ok, now to the tricky part. Do you think this is because college is trying to increase the number of female professors? I'm not saying any of them are undeserved of their promotion or am I saying some men were over looked. But......

    Am I much too cynical?

    Well over half the scholars are chicks too.

    No the vast majority of new fellows are male. 4/5 new professorial fellows are female. In total, 8 out of 23 new fellows are female. Scroll down the page. If they are trying to increase the proportion of female fellows, they are failing miserably.

    Professorial fellows are a special case: it's a sort of catch-up award usually given to people who've reached positions of seniority without becoming fellows. They're usually very recent appointments who have come in to TCD as heads of dept or holders of chairs. Look at the dates of appointment for the women you're talking about. You could deduce an increase in recent female hires at high position - but four people? Doesn't seem statistically significant.

    As for scholars, not sure from all the names but it looks like max 40 out of 76 women to me. Affected by medicine (10 scholars of whom 8 are women , vast majority on the course female), but looks like a fair match with overall numbers on campus anyway - aren't 55% of undergrads female?

    And there is truly no stage of the examination process where correction for a more PC gender balance could take place. Honestly. No one's that interested. Maybe you aren't cynical enough.

    Well done to all scholars and fellows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    Really nice picture of 5 of the new scholars in today's Irish Times. Can't help but be happy for them - they look so absolutely relieved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭BrenC


    Well done to everyone who got schols :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    I'd thought they'd show the scholars of the decades photo in the times? 'cept it's some lame one of people jumping. Meh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Tacitha


    I'd thought they'd show the scholars of the decades photo in the times? 'cept it's some lame one of people jumping. Meh

    It comes out a few weeks after Trinity Monday, usually.


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