Is it possible to choke to death on an ice-cube?

InFront · 21-01-2007 03:07AM

YeatsCounty wrote:

AFAIK, drowning is just like a specialised form of choking in a way. In most cases, as soon as the breathing reflex hits and the drowning person inhales water, the throat closes up (laryngospasm), thus disallowing the person from inhaling any more water until it relaxes again. This relaxation usually occurs a couple of minutes after the person has drifted into unconsciousness.

Ah I dunno about that... can't see laryngospasm lasting minutes... I think it would be pretty momentary. One of the ways of confirming a drowning in pathology is to assess the amount of water that exits the lung when it's sectioned.

EDit: found this. It's so ewwwwwy

1.surprise (person is stunned and inhales water)
2. holding breath (person tries to hold breath while struggling)
3. pink foam (person inhales deeply & pink foam is expelled)
4.respiratory arrest (thoracic movement and pupils dilate)
5.final struggle (3-4 quick attempts to breath and find air)

So I don't think that this can be the most pleasant way of dying, there's got to be something a bit more dignified and peaceful...

JPA · 21-01-2007 02:38PM

wrote:

I saw somewhere thats how the russian mafia kill people-stuff their throats with snow

A shard of ice is apparently the best weapon to murder someone with. It just disappears leaving no fingerprints.

aidan24326 · 28-03-2007 04:45PM

Healio wrote:

If you had of died, id imagine the your ex would be charged with murder. Bangs to the head, and no sign of the throat blockage as it has probably melted. . . . . .. .. . . . ..

"No officer, she really did choke on a piece of ice!!"

The post mortem would show death by asphyxiation though, and there'd be no signs of strangulation.

InFront wrote:

So I don't think that this can be the most pleasant way of dying, there's got to be something a bit more dignified and peaceful...

Well no it's hardly the most pleasant way to go. Dying in your sleep would be preferable.

But people who've come very close to death by drowning (and survived obviously) have said that it's surprisingly not as bad as you might imagine. Then again they didn't die so maybe that's why!

Still not something I'd be in any hurry to try out though. But it seems it's not the worst way to go. Being burned alive now that would be a raw deal.

.:Who:. · 28-03-2007 05:04PM

JPA wrote:

A shard of ice is apparently the best weapon to murder someone with. It just disappears leaving no fingerprints.

brilliant absolutely brilliant gonna sharpen me up some ice now, fookin housemates been pissin me off for months! :mad:

slipss · 28-03-2007 05:58PM

aidan24326 wrote:

Being burned alive now that would be a raw deal.

I agree it would be a pretty bad way to go but aparently you pass out after a few seconds from lack of oxygen, so I'd imagine there would be worse ways.

WhiteWashMan · 28-03-2007 06:44PM

if the ice cube is big enough, you could develop hypothermia.
happens all the time on glaciers.

Mushy · 28-03-2007 08:56PM

Well, put it this way, if I can choke on something like Aero bubbles, or even normal aero, I'm fully sure you can choke on almost anything*

*Remembers time I choked on analog stick part of game pad:D

aidan_walsh · 28-03-2007 09:01PM

Gordon wrote:

Moved from PI.

:eek:

AdMMM · 28-03-2007 09:09PM

One of the best threads on here for a long time!

Caliden · 29-03-2007 02:53AM

2 months it was yea.

Zaph · 29-03-2007 07:41PM

This sounds like a job for Mythbusters!

mloc · 29-03-2007 07:49PM

a similar thing happened to me with a silvermint, blacked out but not quite lost consciousness... all was ok when it melted a bit.

i did pass out one time after kinking my windpipe, that was fun.

Jesus Wept · 29-03-2007 08:06PM

JPA wrote:

A shard of ice is apparently the best weapon to murder someone with. It just disappears leaving no fingerprints.

It would leave a puddle

And you still leave DNA evidence, just by being somewhere.

RoyalMarine · 30-03-2007 01:34AM

tman wrote:

It's still mildly amusing... (my bro got an annual for Christmas)

I reckon urine would be the best bet in a situation like the OP's

yes, and if that doesnt work, when the police arrive your story would be what?

she was choking on a piece of ice officer. i swear. i tried to get it out using the heimlich maneovour but it didnt work. thats when i dropped her a few times. then i decided to take a pi*s in her throat. but she died anyway.

right......

Spunj · 30-03-2007 01:54AM

I remember when I was like 9, leaving my house and getting 50m or so away before I had this terrible moment when the sweet I was sucking suddenly went down my windpipe.

I turned around and tried making it home but I couldn't make it. I will never forget the helpless feeling I had as I gasped for air. I think I tripped or something, but halfway home I smacked onto the pavement and the sweet flew out of my mouth. *Me shudders*

luckat · 30-03-2007 10:55AM

OP, you're planning a murder really, eh?

Drowning isn't much fun - I nearly drowned, and you get a terrible headache. On the other hand there's this lovely feeling of peace - apparently when the natural euphorics in the brain kick in. I was dark blue when I was pulled out of the water. An hour or so later, when I looked in the mirror, I could see all the veins in my face. Mad.

Siogfinsceal · 30-03-2007 11:55AM

The KGB used to kill people by packing snow and ice down their throat. They would suffocate to death and the the snow and ice would melt leaving no evidence. It features in the Dan Brown book 'deception point'

sunzz · 30-03-2007 12:15PM

Dan brown, **** me it must be true. :rolleyes:

Capt'n Midnight · 31-03-2007 12:50AM

Mushy wrote:

Well, put it this way, if I can choke on something like Aero bubbles, or even normal aero, I'm fully sure you can choke on almost anything*

*Remembers time I choked on analog stick part of game pad:D

you can choke on pretzels too you know

Siogfinsceal wrote:

The KGB used to kill people by packing snow and ice down their throat. They would suffocate to death and the the snow and ice would melt leaving no evidence. It features in the Dan Brown book 'deception point'

Oh that must be true the, or if it is where did DB see it.

Of course it would all depend on the size of the cube. You could make one nearly three miles on a side.

You could also put the cube in liquid nitrogen, it would not melt so easily then.

DemonOfTheFall · 31-03-2007 01:23PM

sunzz wrote:

Dan brown, **** me it must be true. :rolleyes:

QFT.

I forgot the exact point when that guy became a believable reference on anything. Just looking at the back of some book he wrote about some amazing unbreakable code was enough to put me off ever considering reading his drivel.

Mightn't the frostbitten throat and lungs full of water possibly be the evidence left behind?

Is it possible to choke to death on an ice-cube?

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