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new ruling questions (2)

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  • #32
    Scouser in Dub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Scouser in Dub


    what others say

    I know this is different to the second case player acting out of turn but it seems damn near impossible to get a consensus on the issue


  • #33
    Macspower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭Macspower


    glad my chips went on to win :)


  • #34
    TheDuck32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭TheDuck32


    NickyOD wrote:
    Point 2. This is an unusual one actually but if Player B's bet stands then it must be a raise not a call (because he has put in more than half a raise). Regardles of whether the action was out of turn or not, in this instance it is binding. If Player A had bet 300 and then Player B made it 500 in turn, he would have been forced to make it 600 so why not the same ruling when out of turn?


    It is not the same thing because the intent of player B was not to raise. there is very little that is binding in the rules of poker, it all depends on the room your in. In this case the advantage should go to player A, who can reduce the bet to 300, otherwise in this situation why make the bet.

    Ruling should always be based on common sence and fairness, and to do this you must take into account the intent of a player when he makes an action.


  • #35
    fixer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 555 ✭✭✭fixer


    a player putting chips in the pot, in turn or out of turn, is expressing his intent of committing that much to the hand. The chips cease to beloing to him and can never be removed from the pot. If preceeding action causes him to be required to commit even more chips, he has the option of folding (leaving his chips behind since they are not his anymore) or topping up to the appropriate amount. His penalty for acting out of turn would usually be to lose his re-raising ability in that round of action.

    In the case of B's 500 out of turn bet and A then betting 300, B would have to fold or top up to the minimum raise of 600.

    Players acting on information from other players, shame on them. Same as misdeclaring your hand at showdown and someone else mucking a better hand. Angle shooting or honest mistake, it's the opponent's job to get the correct info from the dealer before making the decision.


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