Private Schools.

thebaz · 10-08-2006 02:09PM

i used to get a lot of sneers and laughs when it told people the private school i went to - i actually was embarassed - got over it now - but still get the odd sneer when i tell people -- ruined my street cred :cool:

Collie D · 10-08-2006 08:40PM

rb_ie wrote:

Much rather have him come home with a hard Dub accent and ask you to bring him to see his Juvenile Liason Officer eh?

(since you're talking stereotypes).

Not exactly a stereotype, it's amazing how quickly people change their accents when immersed in an environment like that. As for the Leinster bit, that was said tongue in cheek but I'm not taking it back

RainyDay · 10-08-2006 10:01PM

mloc wrote:

In some ways yes. There was the case however of a particular individual i knew in the school who at one point could not afford to pay the fees because of family trouble, and the school, in the light of maintaining the community, allowed him to stay gratis.

Wow - One whole pupil allowed to stay on! That really broke the bank, didn't it?

The real question is would they have let him into the school in the first place if his 'family trouble' meant that he couldn't pay the 1st year fees?

mloc · 11-08-2006 01:19PM

RainyDay wrote:

The real question is would they have let him into the school in the first place if his 'family trouble' meant that he couldn't pay the 1st year fees?

No of course not. It's not a charity.

Dave! · 11-08-2006 01:30PM

Yeah... It's a school...

Terry · 11-08-2006 05:22PM

Collie D wrote:

Not exactly a stereotype, it's amazing how quickly people change their accents when immersed in an environment like that. As for the Leinster bit, that was said tongue in cheek but I'm not taking it back

not all people.
i know a girl who went to a private school.
you can take the girl out of ballyfermot, but you can't take the ballyfermot out of the girl.

FlutterinBantam · 11-08-2006 07:00PM

Chrissakes!!!! no contest..

Pvt school speak properly.. fairish grades ..good prospects

Public... speak like a knacker... great grades ...no fcukin chance..

Its so fcukin simple

LadyJ · 11-08-2006 07:06PM

FlutterinBantam wrote:

Chrissakes!!!! no contest..

Pvt school speak properly.. fairish grades ..good prospects

Public... speak like a knacker... great grades ...no fcukin chance..

Its so fcukin simple

That's just not always true.

I never developed a "knacker" accent from public school,even though most of my classmates had flat Dublin accents and I always got good grades. My accent stayed the same when I went to private school and my grades didn't improve much at all. If anything,they got that little bit lower. Not to mention that a lot of the people in the private school had awful accents too.

As I've said before,it always depends on the person and on the school. It also depends on a lot of other things too.

molypiper · 21-08-2006 12:31PM

if i've the means i'd gladly do it! i want the best for my kids!

greenkittie · 21-08-2006 01:24PM

I went to a private Protestant school (although i am a Catholic) and I loved it. My parents went without lots of things they would have liked to have in order to send me and my two brothers to private school.
I would definitely send my kids to private school if I could even vaugely afford it. It is just a good way of ensuring they mix with an appropriate crowd, speak well and are in an environment that promotes competitiveness and instills the drive to succeed.

greenkittie · 21-08-2006 01:30PM

When I was younger I remember feeling embaressed by my "posh" accent and people from public schools calling me posh but then as I got older I realised it is nothing to be ashamed of.
The last time someone asked me "Are you posh?" in an attempt to insult me I replied with "Are you common?" hehe she looked quite put down by that.

I'd rather be posh than common any day.

21-08-2006 01:33PM

greenkittie wrote:

I would definitely send my kids to private school if I could even vaugely afford it. It is just a good way of ensuring they mix with an appropriate crowd, speak well and are in an environment that promotes competitiveness and instills the drive to succeed.

Obviously did not instill the drive to succeed in you if you could not afford to send your own children to private school.;)
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greenkittie · 21-08-2006 01:42PM

Deleted User wrote:

Obviously did not instill the drive to succeed in you if you could not afford to send your own children to private school.;)
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Not old enough to have children yet but not being able to afford to send them to private school dosn't currently come into my life plans. Something would have to go disastrously wrong in my life for that to happen.

Miss Fluff · 21-08-2006 02:39PM

Private all the way, and boarding schools if possible.

chump · 21-08-2006 02:40PM

I see Pighead has done it again

I went to a public school. So did my gf. Local schools a few minutes walk from our respective houses.
If it was a bad school I doubt I would have been sent there. But it was a good, and handiest - so why not?

On the south side of the city there is a lack of public schools, due to the prevalance of good quality private schools.
So people go to private schools.
Also if your child had 5 friends all of whom were going to a private school, would you send him to the public one further afield?

I know plenty of people who went to private schools, some because like myself it was the handiest and had a good reputation, others because Mommy wanted them to get special attention.

The special attention kids end up doing as badly, or worse, than if they had gone to a public school.

greenkittie · 21-08-2006 02:46PM

Private mixed or private single sex?

I think single sex works for out better girls but is bad for boys.

white studs · 22-08-2006 12:06AM

Pighead wrote:

Well, What do you think?

Would you put the fruit of your loins/ladybits into a Private School to give him/her the best possible chance to get a decent education?

These schools cost 1000's of euros and Pighead would imagine the facilities would be better? Is it worth it? Are they all snobby mammys boys who check each others bits out in the showers and then retire to their dorms for games of soggy biscuit?

Pighead needs to know - an old chum of mine went to a private school and he used to get quite a lot of slagging from from the local tough boys who thought he was a smarmy little rich boy with notions of upperosity. He wasn't. He was smashing.

On top of that, it was an all boys school so he was obviously a homosexual in their eyes.

So. would you?

Think that if you want your children to get a better education which would increase their standards of living in later life then in my oppion it’s worth the slagging and jeering. In fairness the people who create the "bad press" about private school goers are the people who will more than likely end up in the dead end job, with little knowledge of the world around them or compassion for people.
I think its very unfortunate that people would miss out on any opportunity for fear that they may be slagged weather that opportunity is going to a private school or something simple like wearing unfashionable clothes.
It’s a sad world we live in if people are slaves to their peers.
If private schooling is something you and your children are comfortable with then I say to hell with the ideas those stupid wasters have...... Carpe Diem.

gilroyb · 22-08-2006 12:13AM

Read the chapter in Freakonomics on the issue of public/private schools, very interesting statistical analysis about the effect of school choice.

Basically, these particular statistics show that it's not the actual school that makes the difference (in terms of results), but the fact that one tries to get into a different school indicates better results. Very interesting read.

theCzar · 22-08-2006 12:27AM

Went to public school, liked it, would send me kids there no problem, but a scum hole primary school, for balance.

drunkenfool · 22-08-2006 12:51AM

blackrock scumbags, get a real school

JC 2K3 · 22-08-2006 01:34AM

Gaelscoileanna ftw.

-They're free(most if not all)
-You don't get overtly snobbish people since they turn their noses up at Irish.
-You don't get total knackers since parents of knackers generally wouldn't be concerned about their children going to an Irish speaking school.
-You don't get many total retards since if someone can't become fluent in a language they've already been learning for 8 years(however badly taught) after a few months of total exposure they'll have either left after a few months or won't have gone at all.
-You're guaranteed at least a B in HL Irish.
-Generally good, dedicated teachers.
-No rugby, but Gaelscoils tend to excel at GAA sports and have dedicated and experienced teachers coaching.

So basically you get a good mix of genuinely nice people, rich and poor, and a generally high academic standard. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Mahou · 22-08-2006 01:53AM

Went to a great CBS and dont live in Ireland anymore.If I was bringing my kids up in ireland I'd check out which schools were in the area and judge it on that.I find it funny-in a sad way the pettiness of the private v public.Get a grip kids mummy and daddy(mam n dad) cant buy you a good job.:rolleyes:

Thirdfox · 22-08-2006 01:38PM

JC 2K3 wrote:

Gaelscoileanna ftw.

-They're free(most if not all)
-You don't get overtly snobbish people since they turn their noses up at Irish.
-You don't get total knackers since parents of knackers generally wouldn't be concerned about their children going to an Irish speaking school.
-You don't get many total retards since if someone can't become fluent in a language they've already been learning for 8 years(however badly taught) after a few months of total exposure they'll have either left after a few months or won't have gone at all.
-You're guaranteed at least a B in HL Irish.
-Generally good, dedicated teachers.
-No rugby, but Gaelscoils tend to excel at GAA sports and have dedicated and experienced teachers coaching.

So basically you get a good mix of genuinely nice people, rich and poor, and a generally high academic standard. I'd recommend it to anyone.

I had a friend who went to a Gaelscoile - he enjoyed it but he said that learning all the subjects through Irish put him in a difficulty in college e.g. scientific/economic/accountancy terms. Could be something to think about before joining an Irish secondary school.

Edit:
Mahou: I don't think the debate has lowered itself to pettiness yet - we are looking at results/facilities etc. these are objective and not subjective. Also, unfortunately in this world Mummy and Daddy can buy you a good job (or at least give you a change at keeping a good job after some introductions). The friends that you make in secondary school can also help in later life too (as one person jokingly remarked about the architect finding his pal the lawyer etc. etc.)

JC 2K3 · 22-08-2006 02:06PM

Thirdfox wrote:

I had a friend who went to a Gaelscoile - he enjoyed it but he said that learning all the subjects through Irish put him in a difficulty in college e.g. scientific/economic/accountancy terms. Could be something to think about before joining an Irish secondary school.

It's a fair point I guess, but you learn the terms in English as well. Any time there's a difficult Irish term the teacher will usually just tell you it in English also even if no one asks, most of the books are in English anyway and ones in Irish always have a Foclóir at the back. And you'd adjust to using the English terms in college after about a month or two anyway.

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