Ireland has best quality of life in world...

27-06-2006 09:15AM #1

...according to the Economist.

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/QUALITY_OF_LIFE.pdf

Lux23 · 27-06-2006 09:19AM

But you wouldn't really want to get sick.....

Miss Fluff · 27-06-2006 09:20AM

.....Or be too much of a sun-worshipper :rolleyes:

humanji · 27-06-2006 09:21AM

Or want to buy a house.

Or feel safe walking the streets.

Or have a severe hatred of Tubridy!

Dont be at yourself · 27-06-2006 09:48AM

Or want a social life that doesnt revolve around alcohol...

Or want your children educated in a secular environment...

Archeron · 27-06-2006 09:54AM

Personally, I dont have many complaints. (apart from all the usual ones mentioned above) I'm lucky in that I own my own house, have a car, a good quality of life, health insurance, enough cash to live relatively comfortably (I'm not loaded, but I'm not on the breadline either), my family around me and freedom of speech, expression, political and religious motivation etc. I'd tend to agree with the report, and I'm not even one of the many many many people driving around in €100k plus Mercs and Beemers and living in big mansions with swimming pools and tennis courts, like so many people seem to.

I think a lot of people dont realize how lucky so many of us do actually have it.

Dyr · 27-06-2006 09:56AM

It's more a social life that happens to have a coincidental proximity to alcohol

FillSpectre · 27-06-2006 10:00AM

jomanji wrote:

Or want to buy a house.

Or feel safe walking the streets.

Or have a severe hatred of Tubridy!

Of course important things like

Able to feed your family

or have a job

or have a place to live

or actually be safe on the streets

really have no importance.

If you think it is truely unsafe on the streets of Dublin you have no concept of what it is like to be unsafe on the streets. Buying a house is a luxury, affordable medicne (not cheap) is accesible, state benifits are actually good here, our economy is built on the weather that allowed things to grow here. Health care in Ireland isn't actually that bad A/E is in trouble and the service is difficult to use but go else where and you will see much worse. The fact other people say we have the best overall won't change your minds as the worst Irish trait is a post colonial hang-up about any system and authority. It actually makes us very like the English who down trodden masses dislike authority but love theri country we just don't love our country.

BossArky · 27-06-2006 10:03AM

I saw one of those a few months back and wasn't it 3 cities in Canada which were reputed as having the best quality of life, closely followed by 3 Australia ones. In summary the articule said that Canada had the highest standard of living.

Dyr · 27-06-2006 10:16AM

The mind is it's own place and in itself can make a heaven of hell or hell of heaven...

I know this country is wrecking my buzz lately, i wonder if the things that put us at the top of this poll are the things we're chucking overboard in our rush to keep up with the jones.

Tha Gopher · 27-06-2006 10:38AM

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

Or want a social life that doesnt revolve around alcohol...

Or want your children educated in a secular environment...

Aye, the 40 odd minutes per month of religion we did in national school plus the three per week in secondary that we used to spend messing, doing homework for next class and watching documentaries about drug abuse turned me out a worse fundamentalist than sending an impressionable muslim kid to a madrassa on the Afghan border

Financially we are doing good, but these surveys dont take into account peoples actual personal lives.

27-06-2006 11:59AM

Financially we are doing good, but these surveys dont take into account peoples actual personal lives.

Or the amount of debt that most people have to keep that standard of living.

Vegeta · 27-06-2006 12:05PM

well we came 14 out of 15 in a health service survey or so Ian Dempsy said this morning on the radio.

Endurance Man · 27-06-2006 12:09PM

Bloody moaners :mad: , if you lot had any idea, perhaps some of you should go live in other parts of the world, you seem to think ireland is so bad, bloody pathetic. Its ignorance is what it is!

DSN · 27-06-2006 12:17PM

My husband spent 12hr in a&e yesterday after being referred there by his GP for a minor surgical procedure. After 12 hrs was told bythe A&E doc they didnt do that procedure & shud have got a referral to outpatients. I blame the idiot gp in his case, but this was my first experiance of how crap the health service is. Felt so sorry for the older people & properly ill packed into a stuffy room with not even enough chairs for 12 hours. worse than a third world country if u ask me.

27-06-2006 12:25PM

DSN wrote:

worse than a third world country if u ask me.

On the other hand I had a great day yesterday.

Clearly your bad day and my great day will negate each other when looking at the overall quality of life...

eiretamicha · 27-06-2006 12:30PM

Endurance Man wrote:

Bloody moaners :mad: , if you lot had any idea, perhaps some of you should go live in other parts of the world, you seem to think ireland is so bad, bloody pathetic. Its ignorance is what it is!

What he said.

And those of you complaining about being safe on the streets? Come walk OBT in Orlando after dark...or even try walking in Eatonville in the daytime...then there's Leesburg, which I so affectionately call Sleezeburg, and can't forget some places in Tampa...this is all in Florida, and you can bet yer a$$ that I count my blessings every day. Couldn't even imagine what living is like in some of those middle-eastern countries.

The things we take for granted...stop yer freakin complaining and realize just how damn good you've got it. Not directed at anyone individually, but jeez...at least you're not homeless eating out of a damn trash can wondering if it's gonna rain anytime soon so you can get a drink of water...:(

FillSpectre · 27-06-2006 12:32PM

DSN wrote:

worse than a third world country if u ask me.

How many third world countries have you lived in? I can't say it is worse or better as I have never been to one. I have had heard people say similar about airports, roads etc... but I have seen worse in 1st world countries so I tend to find the comment insulting to actual real 3rd world countries and to here.

27-06-2006 12:34PM

Endurance Man wrote:

Bloody moaners :mad: , if you lot had any idea, perhaps some of you should go live in other parts of the world, you seem to think ireland is so bad, bloody pathetic. Its ignorance is what it is!

I love the way you can't criticise anything about Ireland without someone jumping in, and telling people to leave. :rolleyes:

I have lived in a few countries in the past, and I wouldn't rank Ireland near the worst or near the best. I'd suggest close to the middle. For the standard of living we receive, we pay for it at every step of the way. If we had a better infrastructure, and better level of services, then I would place us much higher.

meditraitor · 27-06-2006 12:38PM

Deleted User wrote:

Clearly your bad day and my great day will negate each other when looking at the overall quality of life...

That sounds like something a FF TD would say...

shnaek · 27-06-2006 12:39PM

Endurance Man wrote:

Bloody moaners , if you lot had any idea, perhaps some of you should go live in other parts of the world, you seem to think ireland is so bad, bloody pathetic. Its ignorance is what it is!

eiretamicha wrote:

What he said.

And those of you complaining about being safe on the streets? Come walk OBT in Orlando after dark...or even try walking in Eatonville in the daytime...then there's Leesburg, which I so affectionately call Sleezeburg, and can't forget some places in Tampa...this is all in Florida, and you can bet yer a$$ that I count my blessings every day. Couldn't even imagine what living is like in some of those middle-eastern countries.

The things we take for granted...stop yer freakin complaining and realize just how damn good you've got it. Not directed at anyone individually, but jeez...at least you're not homeless eating out of a damn trash can wondering if it's gonna rain anytime soon so you can get a drink of water...:(

If we sit down and think this country can be no better then we will never change. I have lived in Australia, America, Germany and the UK and I can say while we have many wonderful things here - we need to improve.

Our education standards are falling. Our health care is 25th out of 26 European nations. Our urban planning is an absolute joke. Political corruption has to be stamped out. These are some issues we should seek to change and better ourselves on. I am just giving these as an example.

We can compare ourselves to the worst and call ourselves great, or compare ourselves to the best and ask 'How do we get there?'

DaBreno · 27-06-2006 12:40PM

What did you expect from a magazine called the Economist? The economy here is doing well, employment is quite high and GDP is great reletive to the rest of the world. For these guys Money = Happiness, we have loads therefore Ireland is the best country in the world.
Or we still have a good bit to go if you look beyond pure economics.

27-06-2006 12:41PM

meditraitor wrote:

That sounds like something a FF TD would say...

I am not a FF TD.

I just didn't really get the point. Was she saying that up to yesterday the quality of life was good, but that she spent so long in a hospital that today it's bad? Or that her individual experience of one aspect of life affects the Economist's overall contention that we have the best quality of life?

jimbono1 · 27-06-2006 12:44PM

Irelands ****, just the rest of the world is ****ter

meditraitor · 27-06-2006 12:47PM

Deleted User wrote:

I am not a FF TD.

Deleted User wrote:

I just didn't really get the point. Was she saying that up to yesterday the quality of life was good, but that she spent so long in a hospital that today it's bad? Or that her individual experience of one aspect of life affects the Economist's overall contention that we have the best quality of life?

Ireland is a great country to live in.

Anyone who thinks differently is deluded

FillSpectre · 27-06-2006 12:48PM

DaBreno wrote:

For these guys Money = Happiness, we have loads therefore Ireland is the best country in the world.
Or we still have a good bit to go if you look beyond pure economics.

Did you bother reading how it was worked out? It isn't economics and it is also not the the only such study to say similar.

27-06-2006 12:49PM

meditraitor wrote:

Anyone who thinks differently is deluded

And should be beaten. Or sent to a gulag.

meditraitor · 27-06-2006 12:54PM

Deleted User wrote:

And should be beaten. Or sent to a gulag.

Or leitrim

Battlejuice · 27-06-2006 12:56PM

meditraitor wrote:

Or leitrim

That's a bit harsh now. A gulag is sufficient.

27-06-2006 12:57PM

I may not be a FF TD, but I can confirm that anyone who disagrees with the thread will have their details noted and filed in FF HQ. Come the overall majority, I'd recommend a good hiding place...

JimmySmith · 27-06-2006 12:59PM

Let me guess most of the people who think Ireland is not a great place to live were not old enough to be looking for a job in the eighties.

It was a bad place to live then then, its great now.
Also go travel around India or Africa for a bit and then come back and complain how bad Ireland is.

Ireland has best quality of life in world...

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