Ashes - First Test

Harry2001 · 14-07-2005 11:27AM #1

Kevin Pietersen has been named ahead of Graham Thorpe in England's 12-man squad for the first Ashes Test at Lord's next week

Couldn't make my mind up myself, old reliable Thorpe or new kid on the block Pietersen?

Squad:

1. Michael Vaughan (Yorkshire) (captain)

2. Ian Bell (Warwickshire)

3. Andrew Flintoff (Lancashire)

4. Ashley Giles (Warwickshire)

5. Stephen Harmison (Durham)

6. Matthew Hoggard (Yorkshire)

7. Geraint Jones (Kent)

8. Simon Jones (Glamorgan)

9. Kevin Pietersen (Hampshire)

10. Andrew Strauss (Middlesex)

11. Chris Tremlett (Hampshire)

12. Marcus Trescothick (Somerset)

DMC · 14-07-2005 07:22PM

Easy decision for me... old dog for the hard road.

Thorpe, whilst his swansong, would've brought his game to England middle order. Blooding a player like Pietersen at the start of an Ashes series is risky.

mike65 · 14-07-2005 08:13PM

Agreed, Thorpe been there done that, Pietersen has a future but like that Dublin fella (!) it might have been better if it started in the winter.

The weather having been so dry and hot will mean ultra fast outfield, the forecast for next week in London is continuing dry with temps in early 20s, so whoever wins toss better put in to bat methinks.

Mike.

DMC · 14-07-2005 08:31PM

The thing about Pietersen for me is, that we really have only seen in the last six months his flash bang wallop game... suited for a one day game. But unlike Ian Bell, who proved his early season form in the CC with huge scores against Bangladesh, KP hasn't set the county championship alight this summer.

He'll be batting with the likes of Jones and Flintoff, no mean sloggers themselves. I just dont think Pietersen has any other gears, and the England team only needs a couple of huge hitters, and like for like, Thorpe is the better longer-format player.

Like Bell, Ed Joyce is more of a prospect in the Test arena. (though, I hope for Ed's sake, he is not called up for the Pakistan/India tours this winter)

But 1st cap at Lord's against the Aussies is just wrong. Very wrong.

RuggieBear · 14-07-2005 08:42PM

mike65 wrote:

Agreed, Thorpe been there done that, Pietersen has a future but like that Dublin fella (!) it might have been better if it started in the winter.

The weather having been so dry and hot will mean ultra fast outfield, the forecast for next week in London is continuing dry with temps in early 20s, so whoever wins toss better put in to bat methinks.

Mike.

i agree too...strange time to give a player his first cap.

Oh and by "Dublin fella" do you mean Ed Joyce from Bray, Co. Wicklow.

county · 14-07-2005 11:39PM

yound blood does no harm,shows no fear,thats what we need against the aussies

RuggieBear · 15-07-2005 08:35AM

seemingly Thorpe told the English management that his back was acting up and he was unsure that his back would hold up for the entire series. shame really to be troubled by such a chronic condtion

Harry2001 · 21-07-2005 09:58AM

Surprise surprise Australia win the toss and decide to bat

25-0 after 6 overs

Harmison starting well, smashed Langer on the elbow

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 10:06AM

haydan falls

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 10:23AM

it's like bodyline all over again

Langer gets a right whack on the elbow and one on the helmet
... and just now Ponting got one in the grill which seems to have bounced into his cheek, drawing blood and possibly breaking his cheekbone

Harry2001 · 21-07-2005 10:33AM

RuggieBear wrote:

it's like bodyline all over again

LOL

This is great stuff from Harmison, they will need the stretchers soon

county · 21-07-2005 10:50AM

66 for 3 great start for england

Harry2001 · 21-07-2005 10:51AM

66-4

great bowling by England

Washout · 21-07-2005 10:52AM

unreal. they will be lucky to reach 200 in the 1st innings.

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 10:53AM

or bad batting....

arbeitsscheuer · 21-07-2005 10:58AM

Phenomenal England. Watched first 5 overs, went to study for a bit (I'd promised I wouldn't let myself get sucked in), just flicked it back on now itn time to see Jones' delivery tempt Martyn into swinging for it. Great bowling, ya have to say.

We had to bully the Aussies, and from what you guys were saying about bodyline-esque stuff from England, we appear to have done just that.

COME ON ENGLAND

county · 21-07-2005 11:36AM

97-5 what a start

v-deniso · 21-07-2005 11:42AM

That was the most amazing mornings cricket I have seen in ages....A savage performance by the England bowlers

arbeitsscheuer · 21-07-2005 11:44AM

LUNCH:

Australia 97 for 5

BATSMEN:

J L Langer c S J Harmison b A Flintoff 40
M L Hayden b M J Hoggard 12
R T Ponting c A J Strauss b S J Harmison 9
D R Martyn c G O Jones b S P Jones 2
M J Clarke lbw b S P Jones 11
S M Katich not out 7
A C Gilchrist not out 8

Extras 6nb 1w 1b = 8
Fall of Wicket = 35-1, 55-2,66-3, 66-4, 87-5

Harry2001 · 21-07-2005 01:38PM

Superb stuff!! lets get a few runs now

Australia first innings 190 All Out (40.2 overs)
JL Langer c Harmison b Flintoff 40
ML Hayden b Hoggard 12
RT Ponting c Strauss b Harmison 9
DR Martyn c G O Jones b S P Jones 2
MJ Clarke lbw b S P Jones 11
SM Katich c G O Jones b Harmison 27
AC Gilchrist c G O Jones b Flintoff 26
SK Warne b Harmison 28
B Lee c G O Jones b Harmison 3
JN Gillespie lbw b Harmison 1
GD McGrath not out 10
Extras
5b 4lb 1w 11nb 21
TOTAL: all out , 40.2 overs 190

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 02:46PM

McGrath starts with a vengeance.....2 quick wickets

Washout · 21-07-2005 02:52PM

is the pitch misbehaving badly?

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 03:08PM

well vaughn was bowled by a bastard ball....stayed low and went under his bat....seemingly the groundsman claimed the wicket was ready too early and it might be a bit too dry.

Washout · 21-07-2005 03:12PM

4 down!!! CMON the Aussies.

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 03:14PM

19 for 4 :rolleyes:

Washout · 21-07-2005 03:19PM

RuggieBear wrote:

well vaughn was bowled by a bastard ball....stayed low and went under his bat....seemingly the groundsman claimed the wicket was ready too early and it might be a bit too dry.

so its after getting too much sun and the cracks are wider than they should be for a 1st day.

Also if its dry then Warney might be a factor in the game alot earlier than he should be.

It might all b over in 2 1/2 days.

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 03:20PM

21 for 5 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 03:23PM

Washout wrote:

so its after getting too much sun and the cracks are wider than they should be for a 1st day.

Also if its dry then Warney might be a factor in the game alot earlier than he should be.

It might all b over in 2 1/2 days.

the way McGrath is bowling there will be absolutely no need for Warne

5 wickets already....what were his odds on being the series' leading wicket taker???

Washout · 21-07-2005 03:23PM

yeah listening to it on five live. Henry bloefeld and merv hughes just scared the **** out of me when that flintoff got bowled.

Mcgrath seems to be giving a masterclass on bowling accuretly.

RuggieBear · 21-07-2005 03:26PM

4, 2, 3, 6, 0

That's what the out english batsman have scored!!!! :eek:

DMC · 21-07-2005 05:42PM

Giles out hit wicket! Bwhahahah!

:D:D

Close of day 1
Australia 190
England 92/7 (37.0 ov)
England trail by 98 runs with 3 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

BTW... Pietersen is doing ok....

Ashes - First Test

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