Fedora Core 4 released

Fenster · 13-06-2005 05:20PM #1

Get it while its hot

dahamsta · 13-06-2005 05:43PM

Been waiting on this for a server, getting it from Esat now. Here's the Irish mirrors, maybe I'll save someone a trip:

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/
ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/
rsync://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/
http://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/fedora/
ftp://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/fedora/
rsync://ftp.esat.net/ftp/pub/linux/fedora/

adam

Syth · 14-06-2005 03:25PM

I'm downloading the CDs of esat's mirror. When I've got them, I'll start uploading through bittorrent. I find the mirrors to be quicker.

dahamsta · 14-06-2005 03:33PM

I hate distros that don't work out of the box. Anaconda didn't pick up my monitor correctly so I had to do a text install. Boot process hangs almost immediately. Correct that with custom grub stuff, installer made dodgy monitor settings permanant. Enough. Bye Fedora.

Don't like SuSE 9.3 either, so I guess it'll be a while before Linux gets on my workstation again.

adam

hostyle · 14-06-2005 04:58PM

dahamsta wrote:

I hate distros that don't work out of the box. Anaconda didn't pick up my monitor correctly so I had to do a text install. Boot process hangs almost immediately. Correct that with custom grub stuff, installer made dodgy monitor settings permanant. Enough. Bye Fedora.

Don't like SuSE 9.3 either, so I guess it'll be a while before Linux gets on my workstation again.

adam

Ubuntu / Kubuntu has been flawless for me so far. I was getting sick of crap going wrong on (re-)install too, until I tried found Ubuntu.

dahamsta · 14-06-2005 06:57PM

I wasn't mad about Ubuntu but I think I tried the LiveCD and I've always found them a bit crap. More of a KDE man anyway, so I'll download Kubuntu and give it a try.

adam

dahamsta · 16-06-2005 12:24PM

Kubuntu was quite nice, but I wouldn't run it as an alternative. And the other two distros I've tried recently appear to have regressed. Is Windows on the desktop reversing?

adam

hostyle · 16-06-2005 12:29PM

dahamsta wrote:

Kubuntu was quite nice, but I wouldn't run it as an alternative. And the other two distros I've tried recently appear to have regressed. Is Windows on the desktop reversing?

adam

This is going way off topic (but when has that ever stopped me), but I was always a KDE man until I tried Ubuntu - Gnome really rocks on Ubuntu (been about 3 years since I was taken aback by its unbelievable clunkiness and vowed to never use it again), although its admin interfaces for stuff is a bit limited, but CLI has never been a problem for me.

dahamsta · 16-06-2005 01:33PM

Gnome is nicer than KDE in Fedora too, but I think that's more because they just don't put as much effort into KDE. Getting everything working in Fedora's an absolute pain in the hole though. SuSE don't make it easy but they make it a hell of a lot easier than Fedora.

adam

seanos · 16-06-2005 06:18PM

and the great thing about linux is that there is so damn much choice - something will please someone, that and everyone gets to bitch about /something/
*goes off on exim rant*

Fenster · 16-06-2005 08:06PM

Who needs KDE or Gnome? Fluxbox 4tw!

nutzboutstuff · 19-06-2005 03:58PM

i know switching to linux for any linux novice can be a bit of a daunting experience but come on its not that hard. If you actually want to do it, you'll find ways around it, i managed to install suse personal 7.3 on my old pc years ago, it didn't know about my monitor or my graphics card, so everything had to be done through command line till i got it working, by the end i even had my win modem working (a hell of alot of trouble!). Now i'm a linux system administrator, i switched from xp to SuSE Enterprise server for a while, we use it in work, it was good for a while, but working with mainly windows users i need windows to solve their problems. I think unless you are committed to the switch you'll never take to it. Fedora i think is good. But suse is one of the best i've dealt with, almost everything works out of the box, but you have expect some tinkering and its not that difficult if you have a google window open!
if X doesn't work configure it with sax, or sax2, find out about your monitor, worst come to worst it'll treat your graphics card like a frame buffer and you won't get any video acceleration but most people just using it for browsing can live with that... plus nvidia make linux drivers, installed them on red hat, suse, fedora and they all worked...
If you do have any questions feel free to ask me about them...

eggshapedfred · 20-07-2005 09:16AM

first off, sorry for dragging up an old post, but its about fedora core 4 (which is more than most of the posts in this thread

)

installed fc4 over the weekend. first thing that I noticed (its kinda hard to miss) is that theres something wrong with the audio on fc4. there is a constant hiss coming from my speakers from the time HAL initialises audio (when it boots up). This is really annoying (ogg playback seemed to occasionally get disrupted but I couldn't reproduce this....). googling didn't present any solutions to the constant hiss (its a soundblaster chipset (using snd_ens1371 alsa driver... bog standard stuff). Anyway this problem didn't exist in fc3 so I decided to do a reinstall of that. Thats when the fc3 installer told me that the partition table on hda was borked and i'd have to reinitialize it, wiping the whole thing. no thanks!

also the fc4 installer crashed the first time I ran it. think this is what borked the hard drive partition table (could be wrong). Is it just me or are the fedora releases getting worse as they go on. Fc1 no really big changes from rh9. fc2 made windows unbootable (this was a 2.6 kernel issue (suse and mandrake had the same problem) but it should have been addressed during QA). fc3 was slower to boot. would only install in a primary partition (in my experience. could be wrong). and now fc4 where the audio is borked from the start. I think its time for a new distro....

zoro · 20-07-2005 05:04PM

The hiss is caused by a constantly active mic - that much I can almost assure you of ... annoying as hell when you use headphones

nutzboutstuff · 20-07-2005 09:12PM

yah a line in is normally the problem, my tv tuner poses the same problem, just get a good mixer and turn off all inputs. also wouldn't hurt to run alsaconf on the command line and see how it configures it.
I never had any problems dual booting with a 2.6.x kernel with windows, although tho two os's are on different drives. I ran suse enterprise for quite a while, not up on the most current features of linux but its stable as hell. Plus i compiled Kde 3.4.1 on it.
Point to note, install windows on a master, and then switch to to secondary, that way its MBR will be unaffected and if you ever have to go back to windows just switch the drives back.
FC4 hung on boot on my machine. Wasn't bothered fixing it! just ghosted my windows clean install back on!

eggshapedfred · 21-07-2005 09:21AM

I went back to fc3 anyway. cheers for the tip. wasn't too impressed with fc4. don't think i'll be installing it again. i never personally had any 2.6 kernel bork my windows install, just read that some people had the problem. put me off installing fc2. i'm not sure fedora's heading down a good path. think it might be time to jump ship to another distro. maybe ubuntu.

Fedora Core 4 released

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