Is this Possible- Frames q. ??

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 29-09-2001 01:28PM #1

Right Lads & Lassies- Is this Possible??

Basically I want to build a frameset that will keep its size and will remain in the centre of the screen no matter what the screen resolution. I'm bulding it w/ 800 x 600 in mind but i want it to keep its integrity when viewed @ bigger res. So far i haven't been unable to get the blank A & the blank B to keep their height and force the grey area into the centre.
The pic below for example is how it would be viewed @ 1024 x 768px.

Does anyone have any suggestions- If anyone wants to write a bit of code quickly to solve it...Lay it on me:)
thx in advance

DS · 29-09-2001 02:24PM

Use a transparent 1*1 spacer GIF to force the height of A and B i.e.
<img src="/images/spacer.gif" height="600" width="1">
You can grab one from my site if you like (or if you're too damn lazy to launch Photoshop yourself) http://www.gamerseurope.com/images/spacer.gif

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 29-09-2001 03:15PM

Even IF I put the spacer in its the height not the width I concerned about. ie.- I want the A & B frames height to shrink and grow w/ the screen res.- the width stays 600px @ the mo. thats not the prob.

I'll give the spacer idea a try though thx:)

Any other suggestions keep 'em comin!

phaxx · 29-09-2001 04:06PM

Ditching frames and using tables? eh? eh? *pokes 80p repeatedly* wan!

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 29-09-2001 07:28PM

I'd ditch the frames alrite if I had your php skills, otherwise it'd take a few years to update stuff when I needed.

No, this is a frames project- I've a set of graphics ready to go if I can get this prob solved:)
Thx neway Phaxx

keep'em comin.....

phaxx · 29-09-2001 07:40PM

*pokes 80p repeatedly for no apparent reason*

I dunno, I don't think it's even possible with frames... you could, of course, put in some stupid javascript to detect the size of the browser window, and create frame dimensions/spacer gifs of the right size... Just a thought... I'd never do that myself, I avoid javascript like the plague, except in occasionally useful places, like opening a small window, closing small window. Tis the spawn of satan for any other application.

Does your host support PHP? It's incredibly easy to pick up, all you need is http://www.php.net/manual/ and the webmaster board.

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 29-09-2001 07:49PM

I'd really love to have the time to teach myself some new scripting languages but I'm in the last year of my degree and I really dont have the time [also the worry of pushing essential information out of my cranium and replacing it w/ new stuff- gawd I'm a worrier:)]

Maybe next summer or when I get some time I'll enlighten myself a little further. Until then I'm just goin to have to stick html basics:(

DS · 29-09-2001 09:08PM

At least learn one function, that being include ( ). That'll solve your supposed updating dilemmas.
Name your files .php and throw in something like this
<?php include "http://www.mysite.com/includes/navigation.txt" ?>
Put a navbar in navigation.txt, and it'll magically appear on your PHP page. Fabulous! Much better than frames, no?

dahamsta · 29-09-2001 09:37PM

First of all, as I've said before, the suggestion that Using Frames Is Bad remains as ludicrous -and annoying - today as it always has been. When used correctly and for a purpose, and when the disavantages are weighed and deemed irrelevant, frames can be very useful and/or cool. There's Nothing Wrong With Frames.

Secondly, the image with your requirements is gone now, but I honestly don't see the problem. The following code - bear in mind that it's basic and I haven't assigned attributes for demonstration purposes, so it's ugly - works perfectly for me. Am I missing something?

[The image miraculously reappears, requiring a rewrite]

<html>
<head>
<frameset cols="*,600,*">
<frame src="page.htm">
<frameset rows="*,50,400,50,*">
<frame src="page.htm">
<frame src="page.htm">
<frame src="page.htm">
<frame src="page.htm">
<frame src="page.htm">
</frameset>
<frame src="page.htm">
</frameset>
<noframes>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
Gods, but that's an old browser you've got!
</body>
</noframes>
</html>

adam

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 29-09-2001 09:50PM

Nah Doesn't work Adam

The 400px frame just expands w/ the window size- I need it to stay the same and centred! (If i have the screen res @ 1024 x 768 then the 400 frame looks about 600- get what i mean??

BTW- I think frames get a lot of bad press:p

["Gods, but that's an old browser you've got! "

Nice one;)- you put it very nicely indeed- I seen others such as update your browser you fuppin lazy bat$tard]

DS · 30-09-2001 01:50AM

Well I happen to be a seasoned frame hater myself. Probably because in most cases they're used badly and turn everything into a tacky mess.
Then there's some crappy side effects that piss me off, like when I want to see source code. I really don't see much benefit to them, I mean sure they make development more efficient, but only for hard-coded sites with no backend technology.

dahamsta · 30-09-2001 03:12AM

Nah Doesn't work Adam. The 400px frame just expands w/ the window size- I need it to stay the same and centred! (If i have the screen res @ 1024 x 768 then the 400 frame looks about 600- get what i mean??

Works perfectly for me 80p. The 400px frame only changes size when I make the window smaller than the actual frame sizes (500px). MSIE 6.02, NN 4.76, Opera 5.12, Mozilla 0.92.

BTW- I think frames get a lot of bad press

Ditto.

I seen others such as update your browser you fuppin lazy bat$tard]

Oh, that was the polite version.

adam

e-s-o · 02-10-2001 09:19AM

http://redbrick.dcu.ie/~esoteric/comp/

dont have time to go trough it all but just rip the code.

b20uvkft6m5xwg · 02-10-2001 09:45PM

What a swell GUY / GAL you are e-s-o!!!
Problem solver extraordinaire- It works like a charm!
Thats brill-thx very much for the help and to everyone else who contributed.

For anyone who's interested heres an example of it working- I've left all the frames bar the important one blank and if you view it @ 1024 x 768 or @ a big screen res then you'll see what I was trying to achieve....
http://www.dotie.f2s.com/zz1.html

Once agin thx e-s-o !! Its exactly what i need for a new project I'm starting:)

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