Experiences using VoIP with blueface.ie ???

oceanclub · 08-02-2005 04:39PM

causal wrote:

I'm with NTL bb (750/128kbps) and am planning on ditching Eircom completely (stop cheering at the back!

I ditched them this morning as well. Oh boy, it felt good. We're using Skype and a Plantronics headset for our limited landline needs these days. Apart from offering an incoming number, what other benefits does BlueFace offer? (Skype plan to offer this soon I believe.)

P.

Rew · 08-02-2005 05:02PM

oceanclub wrote:

I ditched them this morning as well. Oh boy, it felt good. We're using Skype and a Plantronics headset for our limited landline needs these days. Apart from offering an incoming number, what other benefits does BlueFace offer? (Skype plan to offer this soon I believe.)

P.

Will be intresting to see if Skype offer an irish number.

causal · 08-02-2005 05:17PM

oceanclub wrote:

I ditched them this morning as well. Oh boy, it felt good. We're using Skype and a Plantronics headset for our limited landline needs these days. Apart from offering an incoming number, what other benefits does BlueFace offer? (Skype plan to offer this soon I believe.)
P.

If you 'subscribe' with blueface then, afaik, the following are blueface advantages over Skype:

You get An Irish 076 number
You get a Dublin geographic number:
- thus people can phone you from their landline/mobile
Ability to phone all other VoIP users free
Ability to dial emergency services in Ireland
Ability to phone numbers like 1800-282820 etc.
If you don't use DSL (or you get lucky with Smart telecom) then you can ditch your phone line rental too.
You can use any VoIP/SIP devices.

If you don't subscribe then the advantages are the VoIP related
Skype doesn't use VoIP

Of course, blueface are an Irish company

hth,
causAl

Blaster99 · 08-02-2005 05:23PM

Skype uses VoIP but it doesn't use SIP. The benefit with SIP is that your options re equipment is endless as it is a standard. Skype needs to do special deals with manufacturers. I use Skype quite a bit and I think it's primarily useful when dealing with people who are also using a computer. It shows online status, does messaging, and generally has a lot slicker interface than a SIP SoftPhone would have. But if you ultimately plan to replace your phone then I would think a SIP-based service makes a lot more sense. And you get a phone number.

oceanclub · 08-02-2005 05:32PM

Thanks for the info. I may just settle on using Skype for the moment; we only used the landline for the occasional call, and it received less calls than the Carlsberg customer support line. So rather being an early adopter, I think I'll wait and see how this whole VOIP thing pans out.

P.

causal · 08-02-2005 07:32PM

Blaster99 wrote:

Skype uses VoIP but it doesn't use SIP. .

Agreed that Skype doesn't use SIP.
But afaik VoIP is actually an industry standard, or rather, it encompasses a set of standards - SIP, MGCP, H.323, etc.
And since Skype uses proprietary protocols - it isn't VoIP.

Skype is internet telephony, and although _literally_ it provides Voice over Internet Protocol, it isn't VoIP[tm] compliant.

Have I got it wrong, or can someone clarify?

causAl

MickFarr · 08-02-2005 07:43PM

oceanclub wrote:

Thanks for the info. I may just settle on using Skype for the moment; we only used the landline for the occasional call, and it received less calls than the Carlsberg customer support line. So rather being an early adopter, I think I'll wait and see how this whole VOIP thing pans out.

P.

That's what I'm going to do for the moment. The UTV talk option has made a big impact on my phone bills so I'm a happy camper at the moment!

Narj · 08-02-2005 10:03PM

This much... This is the repsonse times from their DNS server - not out to the actual internet beyond. This is via Ballymun node

--- 62.231.23.10 ping statistics ---
24 packets transmitted, 15 packets received, 37.5% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev = 160.525/195.741/246.142/27.610 ms
theo# traceroute 62.231.32.10
traceroute to 62.231.32.10 (62.231.32.10), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 62.231.57.65 (62.231.57.65) 2.172 ms 6.683 ms 2.411 ms
2 62.231.49.182 (62.231.49.182) 143.529 ms 152.854 ms 140.584 ms
3 tallaght-et-1-7.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.32.145) 163.710 ms 85.166 ms 120.374 ms
4 62.231.52.125 (62.231.52.125) 177.158 ms 111.813 ms *
5 ns1.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.32.10) 190.764 ms 73.493 ms 102.917 ms

Narj · 08-02-2005 10:05PM

I am still able to use IBB for voice over ip via blueface.ie. I have a 1Mb each way breeze. There is jitter on the call when the response times are as per above but at least it is usable.

jimmycrackcorm · 09-02-2005 11:49AM

I still think you are effectively paying for line rental with blueface.ie. If you do a comparison with something like UTV talk then I think the VOIP advantage is minimized.

Urban Weigl · 09-02-2005 01:33PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

I still think you are effectively paying for line rental with blueface.ie. If you do a comparison with something like UTV talk then I think the VOIP advantage is minimized.

But only €10-20 a month (depending on whether you take their 500 minutes of included calls a month offer), compared to €25 you would be paying Eircom. Also, UTV charge a lot more for international call. Basically, unless you are spending a huge number of hours making local and national evening calls (hours a night probably), you will save a lot with blueface.

darraghrogan · 26-02-2005 01:40PM

Am I being totally oblique here but where are the settings on Blueface's site?

Darragh

BigMoose · 26-02-2005 04:00PM

Mail their support and you'll get a helpful quick response with all you need. The website doesn't have everything but they seem to be improving it every now and then.

Moriarty · 26-02-2005 06:00PM

Moved over to Nets/Comms.

darraghrogan · 26-02-2005 07:18PM

BigMoose wrote:

Mail their support and you'll get a helpful quick response with all you need. The website doesn't have everything but they seem to be improving it every now and then.

I guessed blueface.ie and it worked.

Very impressed for a start up company - if they had support pages like voiptalk.org I'd be well impressed.

Anyone know any codes that work with them eg voicemail 171 etc

Darragh

causal · 27-02-2005 12:29AM

use 303 for the talking clock

darraghrogan · 04-03-2005 06:48PM

300: Chimps party!
301: Echo Test
303: Speaking Clock

The software running the system seems to be Asterix judging by my voicemail emails...

Darragh

Experiences using VoIP with blueface.ie ???

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