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How do you pronounce R?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,726 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Do (I have this completely wrong? I pronounce it "awr", the way a south Dublin yummy mummy would describe her Volvo as a "cawr".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭stagolee


    "or" sounds to me like a d4 collars up rugby jock with whatever haircut beckham has this week, although on the opposite end of the scale anyone from cork would pronounce it "or" and cork people are sound so im undecided on that one.
    i pronounce it "are" myself , i dont think youd get a real pirate "arrrrr" this side of yorkshire (well maybe ronnie drew might do ye one).
    one thing i like though is that irish people pronounce the r, be it "or" or "are". funnily enough most english accents seem to have phased out the letter r exept for at the start of a word. listen the next time you hear an english tv announcer say "return" they get the first r but the second one always eludes them :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭boo4842


    I pronounce it "are", then again I've spent 75% of my life in Canada. "Or" is defiantely an Irish thing, and sounds so wrong and pretentous to me. I believe "are" is the correct form, and is starting to be used more professionally in Ireland apart from the D4 heads who will allways take the DORT from Ballsbridge.

    I know its pronounced "are" in the following countries, with differenct twangs according to accents.

    USA
    Canada
    Austrailia
    England
    Scotland
    Wales
    NI
    New Zealand
    South Africa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭John R


    Sinecure wrote:
    It all comes down to accent I guess. I'm from the north and say "are". I find the idea of me pronoucing it "or" just plain stupid.

    If only we could figure out why you nordies think "w" is pronounced "iiiiieeeeeeeee" as in everytime one of the announcers on BBC NI or UTV tries to say now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    imo , i think it sounds like " or " .

    Anyway, no need to get worried about a letter.. alot of people pronounce stuff different, no biggie :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭cujimmy


    its "are" in Scotland, but what about the way irish folk pronounce (or dont) "th" as in dis dat dese and dose or 1, 2 , tree and what about J as in "ja" not as in "jay"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    Easy way around this if you are on the telephone:
    A for Alpha
    B for Bravo
    etc

    R for Romeo

    My British girlfriend always slags me when I say "or".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Spalk0


    Is anyone else getting flashes of the ambrosia ad from this thread and its posts?

    or is it just me? :D 'oooooh arrrrrrrrrr'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Gilgamesh


    go with with Pirates on this one, 'ARRRRRRRR'
    hehe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    im from meath but live in dundalk..have a mixed bogger/dundalk accent..when i ring places in dublin from work(work has abbreviated name for handiness with an r at the end) most of the people cant grasp the r at the end...really have to pronounce it as 'or' for them or have to tell them the whole name...that annoys me!!!!! :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭meepmeep


    BTW: Scots pronounce G as guy - but it's totally unambigious so that's not a problem

    I'm Scottish, and thats first i've heard of that. G is pronounced as "gee", but J is pronounced as "jigh" (like high with a j)

    R is "are" and H is "aitch" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Arrrr Jim lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    So moving, on who pronounces H like Haytch or Aytch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    -insert pointless comma here-


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    i speak to British folks on the phone all the time and they have no problem when i pronnounce it as "or"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    R - 'R' is often heavily emphasised both at the start and ending of words with the sound of 'er', this gives them a warm tone, such as "NeveR", "BabbeR" and "Right".

    This is how "R" is where I come from

    Ziderrrrrrr I up Landlord!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    I say "or", when in Australia, they never knew what I saying, as they pronounce it as "aaaahh".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭shellspeare


    I'm from south yorkshire and we pronounce R as Rer


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,082 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    In London they mistake "or" and "are", bit like they way they get words starting with "s" and "f" mixed up. I'd say you should do it with round lips and not sounding like a pirate (except on that special day)

    international phonetic langague - each of these characters have a standard sound
    http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm
    sure someone will be along in a minute to tell us which one is used for the letter "R"

    It's not on the main list, but it's the upside-down lowercase r that you see beside decimal code 797. The right-way-round lower r is the spanish rolled r and the upside-down capital R is a French R. Right-way-round capital R isn't much used for European languages, but occurs occasionally between vowels.

    I say OR and HAITCH btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    Funny, this whole "or" and "are" debate. I heard Ryan Tubridy the other morning spell something and he said "are". Never really noticed it much before then. I'm an "or".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    OR! All the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,011 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    What kind of person uses "are" I can't say I've heard someone say it like that.

    OR.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    It's definately should be pronounced "or". I'd definately correct a friend if he/she pronounced it "are" (in a non-slagatory to culites way).

    And "a" should be pronounced "ay" not "ahh" although I think in Irish it's meant to be pronounced "ahh". I always hear my Irish teacher pronouncing it "ahh".

    "H" is "haytch", or else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    It's definately should be pronounced "or". I'd definately correct a friend if he/she pronounced it "are" (in a non-slagatory to culites way).

    And "a" should be pronounced "ay" not "ahh" although I think in Irish it's meant to be pronounced "ahh". I always hear my Irish teacher pronouncing it "ahh".

    "H" is "haytch", or else.

    That's it exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    simu wrote:
    I say "or" (grew up in Cork), never heard anyone say "are".

    Must be a lot of people where you live who think they're pirates.

    lol I say "or" too.. "are " sounds bit weak!!! :D A good strong "OR" ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭meepmeep


    Giblet wrote:
    What kind of person uses "are" I can't say I've heard someone say it like that.

    OR.

    Me! I've only ever heard people announce it as "or" here. We say "are" in Scotland - doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong or vice versa....!

    And Hugh Hefner, why would you correct someone because they pronounce something differently from you?

    Anyhoo - doesn't really matter does it? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Boro


    'ar' for me - a softened version of 'are' and far from 'arrrrrrrrrrrrr' though not as soft as 'or'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I think most people in Ireland prononce it or.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/rhotic
    the great R schism in English speakers - rhotic and the non-rhotic


    http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Hiberno-English - found this as well - worth reading aloud..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    So, Irish people are er... rhotic - who would have thought?


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